Re: Forum Contributor Usergroup *NEW*
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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420
My point was that if you want to have people as "contributors" then give them an actual task and have their usergroup name represent that.
Ie if Illumanati is in charge of submitting news then he'd be "FST New Guy"
Gepperankins is "FST Radio Guy" as he does the radio.
Other titles can be given if they are actually needed. I can't think of any myself though, is there actually anything else?
Having a blanket group doesn't really define what these people are contributing and in fact is insulting to the rest of the membership. I think fewer people will have problems with people being given "jobs" and titles to match these "jobs".
Well we had wanted it to be more generalized and had chosen things like Verifieds and NZB in addition to News also because these are areas that are drawing Google hits and new traffic into the site which translates to new members which is what we have been trying for with whatever changes that are made lately.
The Verifieds and NZB may not be used by some alto but were put up front and additional had a No Content hack applied primarily to draw Google hits which in turn means more traffic and members for you to have all your glory with. Its no secret this place was on a slide not that long ago.
This is why a general name was chosen which was hardly even my thought as its been done on many other forums for that matter. I just cant imagine why you find it so offensive though. If this was just about News then I agree we could call it FST News Guys or something but it was intended to be more than that which is maybe what your missing.
Of course again if you choose to criticize the name based on some concern that it has some sort of insulting overtones than please take into account what the actual thought behind this is and suggest a better name for it if you want...
Re: Suggestion For Forum Contributors And Thoughts
How about an FST NZB Guy and a FST Verifieds Guy then? :unsure:
Re: Suggestion For Forum Contributors And Thoughts
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Originally Posted by DanB
How about an FST NZB Guy and a FST Verifieds Guy then? :unsure:
No...
:P :P
Re: Forum Contributor Usergroup *NEW*
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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420
You know you want to really. If the mods think you're doing a good job, which they seem to then they should let you carry ot on with a few less restrictions (ie the moderation thing).
And as you have ideas for further improvements you seem the best man for the job. Got my vote, even above the awesomeness of Bawa. ;)
Illuminati = FST News Guy.*
*But let us think of a better title. :lol:
I wouldn't decline the offer (Who would it be passed to? ;)) but I have been wary about helping out after the 7th's time *spits*
If I do end up being it though, I might change my username instead - How about Jeremy Paxman? ;)
Re: Suggestion For Forum Contributors And Thoughts
The job thought and seperate titles sounds grand but creating multiple Usergroups just dosent seem needed really...
Re: Forum Contributor Usergroup *NEW*
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Originally Posted by RealitY
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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420
My point was that if you want to have people as "contributors" then give them an actual task and have their usergroup name represent that.
Ie if Illumanati is in charge of submitting news then he'd be "FST New Guy"
Gepperankins is "FST Radio Guy" as he does the radio.
Other titles can be given if they are actually needed. I can't think of any myself though, is there actually anything else?
Having a blanket group doesn't really define what these people are contributing and in fact is insulting to the rest of the membership. I think fewer people will have problems with people being given "jobs" and titles to match these "jobs".
Well I had wanted it to be more generalized and had chosen things like Verifieds and NZB in addition to News also because these are areas that are drawing Google hits and new traffic into the site which traslates to new members which is what we have been trying for with whatever changes that are made lately.
The Verifieds and NZB may not be used by some alot but were put up front and additaional had a No Content hack applied primarily to draw Google hits which in turn means more traffic and members for you to have all your glory with. Its no secret this place was on a slide not that long ago.
This is why a genereal name was chosen which was harly even my thought as its been done on many other forums for that matter. I just imagine why you find it so offensive though. If this was just about News then I agree we could call it FST News Guys of something but it was intended to be more than that which is maybe what your missing. Of course again if you choose to critisize the name based on some concern that it has some sort of insulting overtones than please take into account what the actual thought behind this is and suggest a better name for it if you want...
So for someone in the group that submits verifieds or NZB's you could call them something like "Content Submitter". So long as they continue to submit the aforementioned content.
I understand your idea fully. It just needs a little tweaking is all.
Now you could just call them all "Forum Contributors" and lump them all in one group but I think that splitting people into the roles they intend to perform for the forum will lead to less confusion, more acceptance and less claims of "elitism".
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Well at an afterthought, chances are that at least 9/10ths of those picked already have their own custom names anyway, and will likely change theirs the first chance they get.
So why not stick with the Forum Contributors usergroup (no seperate usergroups) and let these Contribs change their own custom names to whatever they do. It'll let them show their job in their own creative way :)
Personally, I don't have a problem with a Forum Contributors usergroup the same way I did when the Forum Stars usergroup was introduced, but that's my opinion.
Re: Suggestion For Forum Contributors And Thoughts
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Originally Posted by RealitY
The job thought and seperate titles sounds grand and all but creating muliple Usergroups just dosent seem needed really...
I disagree as I've mentioned above. It presents no difficulty to the admin, and will in fact make your job easier when you're checking to see if somebody is still "contributing" because you'll know what they are supposed to be doing and they can't fob you off with with excuses.
Re: Forum Contributor Usergroup *NEW*
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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420
So for someone in the group that submits verifieds or NZB's you could call them something like "Content Submitter". So long as they continue to submit the aforementioned content.
I understand your idea fully. It just needs a little tweaking is all.
Now you could just call them all "Forum Contributors" and lump them all in one group but I think that splitting people into the roles they intend to perform for the forum will lead to less confusion, more acceptance and less claims of "elitism".
I think Content Submitter may be a better choice and can be applied to even those submitting News so it works as a generlized name. Of course as mentioned anyone can change their user title anyway. I do think its a tad dry though but deffinatly on the right track and perhaps on the way to a happy middle ground...
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Been thinking about this bit about submitting content and that.
But what about someone like clocker then?
He doesn't submit any verifieds or news, but along with others, like lynx, and vb, he sorts out a lot of stuff for people.
I think (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that the news, and the verifieds are used by relatively few people. And as for the frontpage, that is rather useless, IMO the www.filesharingtalk.com/ url should be pointing at the forum index.
I reckon this whole concept of who is valuable or not is kinda' lopsided, like someone said, cutting and pasting news, or confirming a verified, isn't hard, granted, it does take some time, but then they wouldn't be looking for it if they weren't interested in it themselves in the first place.
IMO (again) someone who solves problems>someone who posts news.
And the thing is, it's hard to judge if someone is contributing or not, as a lot of people will pitch in if they come across something they actually know how to sort out, but stay away otherwise from giving advice (rather than spamming up a topic in a "serious" world), while others will post indiscriminately to boost their post-count or whatever, maybe solving a couple of problems in the process, maybe not.
How can YOU possibly judge who is useful, and who is not?
Do you have a formula to calculate the ratio of useful, and non-useful posts for each individual, and for that matter, do you have an idea on when to make the distinction on what is useful enough to count worthy of lending the poster privilieges in your little scheme.
And for that matter, I highly doubt someone like titey would have recieved any rewards if he was still here, yet I think he was one of the bigger assets this forum ever had. I know he wouldn't care much about it anyway, but what about running the risk of alienating someone like him who does care, in favour of some total arse who happens to spend a lot of time on fasttrack, or wherever, verifying pron or something?
