NP, so long as you are willing to be more specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
It's a bit nebulous just now.
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NP, so long as you are willing to be more specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
It's a bit nebulous just now.
wasn't really what i meant, i was thinking along the lines of if an asteroid hit tomorrow and killed us all, the next intelligent species that came along (assuming a gap of several million years) might very well think they were the first intelligent species as there would be little evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidccA good point which I hadn't taken into account in this thread. And I should be ashamed as a fan of the hitchhikers guide:( It's entirely possible that other animals are as smart or smarter and we are not smart enough to realise it.:shifty: I had a hard enough time suggesting that other animals have any intelligence at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilw
Can we all agree then that humans are special, even if we disagree on certain aspects of what is so special about them.
Can we also try to agree that other animals are special in other ways and on other levels.
Thats the extreme scenario,but it may very well be, that there have been other very smart creatures in the past, but for whatever reason brains didn't give them the evolutionary edge that it apparently gave us. I remember reading somewhere that homo sapiens very almost died out during the ice age (better hunting due to brains vs the extra energy demand and child birth problems) and if that had happened the next intelligent species would have been in a similar position to us now in thinking they were the first
edit: homo sapiens or cro magnons in ice age? can't be bothered to check
Obviously I'm not going to say that didn't happen. However without any evidence that is did happen it's at best conjecture. Indeed it's far from certain that another species would evolve the large brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilw
As I understand it it's not just the size of the brain which is important. It's how much of the capacity is needed to run the body. Higher level stuff comes from the extra capacity. So we have a brain capacity way larger than what is needed to actually keep the body ticking over. Doing the breathing and stuff.
Or perhaps they wouldn't have the capacity to think along those lines at all....Quote:
Originally Posted by ilwwasn't really what i meant, i was thinking along the lines of if an asteroid hit tomorrow and killed us all, the next intelligent species that came along (assuming a gap of several million years) might very well think they were the first intelligent species as there would be little evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
neanderthals were supposed to be fairly intelligent and technically they were a different species
Based on a 2001 Oxford University study, some commentators speculated that Neanderthals had red hair, and that some red-headed and freckled humans today share some genetic heritage with Neanderthals.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilw
The highest proportion of redheads is found in Scotland where 13% of the population has red hair. :whistling
The 'red heads' stopped the mighty Roman legions in their tracks.:rolleyes: That is why, up till about a hundred years ago we were unique. Just wait till we catch up on this new sport called football. We will show you what's what.:lol:
Meanwhile, you can just keep playing that game where you hit a ball with a stick and lose it down a hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
There's a game for neanderthal's if I ever saw one.:whistling
snooker? :blink:
A wonder who invented that game. Along with a few more. Incidentally I dont play golf anymore. Why should I pay £500 a year to get less hits at the ball than everybody else.
Ava - Most of the red heads in Scotland originated in Ireland.:rolleyes:
:lol::lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
After the Football Association was formed, the rules were still undecided. Scotland played a skillful, passing game, the English played a rough, kicking each other game. When the first match was played between the two countries, the English players were impressed with the Scottish way of playing, and wanted it adopted into the rules. The Scottish, on the other hand, liked the English way better, and wanted those rules adopted. The result was a mix of the two, where you could trip the other player up, and barge players, including the goalkeeper, shoulder to shoulder.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
I thought it was snooker too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboab:lol::lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
I think the Scotch are much better, on a world scale, at snooker than golf :idunno:
Snooker was 'invented' by British Officers stationed in India. It was derived from Billiards. As such I dont think there is such a thing as a Snooker table, it is a Billiard table. Then again..:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerI thought it was snooker too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
I think the Scotch are much better, on a world scale, at snooker than golf :idunno:
Indeed. Currently Scotland have the World's number 1 and 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerI thought it was snooker too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
I think the Scotch are much better, on a world scale, at snooker than golf :idunno:
gratuitous youtube
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I can't explain why I find this funny, but I do :unsure:
:glag:Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
Ya damnnnn right! Shut yo mouth!
Because it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
:shuriken:
Yep, I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™You're agnostic.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnYIt was very early in the morning, however, if you'd read all of what I said, instead of the bits you thought made for nice cutouts, you'da' understood what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
However, once more for the hard of reading:
I don't don't believe, or believe in God the way JP, Dave, or vid does.
I know that there is a possibility that God exists, but I also know that there is a possibility that one doesn't, this knowledge doesn't equal believing in, or not beliving in God the way a religious person, or an atheist does. I know neither can be proven, and therefore I'm open to the fact that either possibility may be true, or false.
Therefore I don't believe in God, but I also don't "don't believe in God" the way vid does, since what he's saying really is that he believes that God doesn't exist. My not believing doesn't mean the same thing as an atheists believing. (I explained this, tho', and stopped saying that "I don't believe", since that became confusing.)
He believes in something. I don't. In this case. (vid would say I believe in possibilities or sth, which I disagree on, as I say I know that neither possibility can be disproven at this point in time. This is because of there's plenty of empirical evidence that not all is known, and that since it isn't, we don't have the means to know everything, and so on.)
The only reason I didn't go over it and clarify, was because vid had already quoted me, and I'd already made an amendment to clarify the context in which that was posted in a later post.
And dave, no.
The odds for Martians existing here and now would most likely be far worse than the existence of a God somewhere, at some level of existence, somewhere.
As I've been saying, there's a lot to reality that isn't known, and therefore the odds for a God existing, or not existing, can't be determined at all, and until they can, no one can say however it's improbable or not, whereas the Martians we can say something about.
Parallel universes, m-space, eleven dimensions (not the same as parallel dimensions, btw), holographic universe, ever-changing laws of physics, near (from our POV) infinite time, and space, or possibly just infinite.
And at any point in time, or that space, a god, or godlike creature, could exist, or start existing.
As for the martians:
We (think we) know something of Mars, today, in this space, we know that there have been no known observations of martians, we know that skin is mostly just carbon, and that can be found anywhere, as can all of the elements constituting a human body, so there'd not be much of a point in collecting that for fuel, so they most likely wouldn't go here for that, 'cos it'd be insane, and so on.
EDit: And it's also fairly specific, and for each detail: Time, space, purpose, point of origin, etc, it becomes less probable.
And Billy: What JP said.
No mang, as far as I understand it, there's a possibility, given the nature of the universe, and so forth, that such an entity could stand outside our universe or current time (if the laws of physics vary with time), looking in. Thus its existence wouldn't be restricted to our current physical laws, although its actions would be, if it was to affect us directly, now.Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
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Also, two more things for whomever it may concern:
*What people don't understand is often classified as magic, or something supernatural, looking back in history. And, as I know we don't know all there is to know yet, it's entirely possible for something that seems unreal now, to become fact later on.
*And two, until something is falsified, the possibility for it being true exists, although it may be somewhat determinable how good the odds for it being true are. And again, knowing that a possibillity exists does not equal "just" believing in it.
So Billy, I wasn't phrasing it to look superior, I was illustrating a dichotomy between knowing and merely believing.
It's strange that you don't see the distinction between the two.
When?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY