That is absolutely untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Necronomicon
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That is absolutely untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Necronomicon
I won't argue with U Dude, just for the sake of dispute. I respect Your opinion whatever it might be. Just never agree, and of course i 'd rather specify: 90 % of cases.
@Necronomicon, I'd just like to know what your basing your figure on? How many anti-traders are you friends with? and how many of them used to trade? In my experience the figure is much smaller. So I'm afraid I'm going to have to call bullshit.
I like Your style , sear. I won't name people, though. Friendship differs from being torrent - buddy, honey. And, well, I do not give a sad f*ck what U call bull-stool. Just amazing how sophisticated U are. I have my opinion, and I just won't start to discuss it with U here. I 've been some time around...Not necessarily here, not with this name. Managed to get buddies with lots of nice guys. And traders are as nice as U, so-called "Anti-traders". U are hypocrites in most cases - former (or current) traders, with aliases. Bet U one of them, honey. A sad trader.
it will reveal mine too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Presto
Thank you. I can't say I disagree and your entitled to not give a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Necronomicon
Why not? as good a place as any.Quote:
Just amazing how sophisticated U are. I have my opinion, and I just won't start to discuss it with U here.
Agreed, many traders are nice and I get along with a lot of them just fine, even though I disagree with their choices and believe it's bad for the bt community. I also don't lump them all together I prefer to take people on their individual merits so please don't catagorise me.Quote:
I 've been some time around...Not necessarily here, not with this name. Managed to get buddies with lots of nice guys. And traders are as nice as U, so-called "Anti-traders".
Sadly this can be true (bastards) but I disagree with it being most.Quote:
U are hypocrites in most cases - former (or current) traders, with aliases.
Nope, I could get angry about this but you don't know me so it's ok. I'm not and have never been a trader just for your info and please don't call me honey I find it offensive.Quote:
Bet U one of them, honey. A sad trader.
btw I'm just disagreeing with you here not attacking you personally, just so you know I'm interested in debate not flaming ;)
You don't want to discuss but you're ok with making biased and dubious accusations. The main purpose of a forum is discussion. Share ideas, views and thoughts. Don't turn this into a flame war.
We can't stop here! This is bat country!!
Ok, sorry, did not mean to offend U. ;) In fact I did some search, and learned that U are a devoted Anti-Trader. BTW, U were invited to Bit-Esc, weren't U?Quote:
Originally Posted by sear
So let's get reasonable. my thesis - and here comes Your parathesis. R U in?
1. Axiome. Most antitraders originate of traders. When they have what they wanted, they just quit. So it is not a moral issue, but rather a practical, IMHO.
No worries I have thick skin :) Yes I am devoted to not trading (not that it takes devotion I just don't do it). But on the same token I don't go out trolling looking to fuck with traders. I prefer to do my thing and perhaps influence by example not nagging/hounding.
Yes I was in Bit-Esc for a short amount of time but I quickly realised it wasn't for me, before this thread was posted btw.
And it's true some anti-traders begin as traders. Some quit when they have what they want or are scammed. Others quickly see what's at stake and decide to get what they want by making friends. I myself am always a little suspicious of ex-traders who've suddenly seen the light. I feel that they will start trading again as soon as there is something they want and can't get any other way. Though that is not always the case some are just sick of the game, and it is never too late to change :noes:
I disagree with your figure of 90 percent. In my experience it's not most at all, more of a 60/40 split on the side of never having traded or at most 50 percent.
who told you that? lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by _coder_
i haven't made a trade in my life and I can vouch for many other people who are the exact same
There are 2 kinds of users, nice-honest ppl ..and assholes ;)
Anti-trading/trading, doesnt really matter for me.
exactly, ive never traded all my invites were given by friends and i give all my invites for free to friendsQuote:
Originally Posted by kapowcowpwnedwho told you that? lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by _coder_
i haven't made a trade in my life and I can vouch for many other people who are the exact same
"I knew it your a fucking narcotics agent" :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by beat
i think my favorite part was when the coke blows away and hunter exclaims "Look what god did to us!"
Yah it's pretty good. except it's not Hunter it's the attorney ;) then Hunter says "god didn't do that you did, I knew it your a fucking narcotics agent"Quote:
Originally Posted by Salvia
ah my bad, thanks for the correction...i gotta get the book again was better than the movie IMO
much much better :yup:
Don't fuck with me now, man... I am Ahab!
:lol: nice one beat.
But enough with the :spam: guys even though it is fun. I'm still waiting for Necronomicon to return and this isn't the lounge.
I can't believe this thread isn't dead already. :(
This topic lost all the sense... :P
That was because all the former BitESC members abandoned the ship pretty fast, so there wasn't a debate really! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmp
True the original debate was short lived but there's been some other interesting posts. I for one was looking forward to Necronomicon's reply. But oh well maybe later.
The debate seemed pointless, anyway. Znik seemingly has a large amount of respect- being a veteran himself. Sear, as I gotta get early tomorrow, I just call it a day, and I get back 2 U some time 2morrow. Then I come up with my formal logics of deduction and induction. Take care.
Not really. Pablo closed up the site to my knowledge. BTW nobody is guilty, until proven to be guilty. Something like this, Dude.;) All I read was accusations and presumptions. Nothing personal against U, i just do not take conspiracy theories. Maybe poor guy just wanted to do some good stuff this time. U never know...As for asking FTN - invites. Is that a big deal? no, it ain't. Happens here in a lot of threads with dumbest ever posts. He ain't a killer, for Heaven's Sake. This stuff is already overkilled. He never had a chance - it was alike a verbal execution.Quote:
Originally Posted by znikThat was because all the former BitESC members abandoned the ship pretty fast, so there wasn't a debate really! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmp
As I know there will be no proof posted in this thread or on this forum, it pretty much comes down to whether you choose to believe znik who is a long time trusted member of this community or notQuote:
Originally Posted by NecronomiconThe debate seemed pointless, anyway. Znik seemingly has a large amount of respect- being a veteran himself. Sear, as I gotta get early tomorrow, I just call it a day, and I get back 2 U some time 2morrow. Then I come up with my formal logics of deduction and induction. Take care.
Not really. Pablo closed up the site to my knowledge. BTW nobody is guilty, until proven to be guilty. Something like this, Dude.;) All I read was accusations and presumptions. Nothing personal against U, i just do not take conspiracy theories. Maybe poor guy just wanted to do some good stuff this time. U never know...As for asking FTN - invites. Is that a big deal? no, it ain't. Happens here in a lot of threads with dumbest ever posts. He ain't a killer, for Heaven's Sake. This stuff is already overkilled. He never had a chance - it was alike a verbal execution.Quote:
Originally Posted by znik
If not, then so be it, but I can tell you are wrong if you think he is lying.
@Necronomicon, another time then.
p.s. I can tell you znik is as honest as they come and he speaks the truth.
Do not give me things in my mouth that have not been told...I guess he is an honest guy (znik) - the thing here is the interpretation. Let me play the Devil's Advocate for a moment: we do not know the real motivators, the real drives. Maybe there is some other consideration, yet of unknown for U.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
BTW, waitin' for SCT - freeleech, then I really beat it.:) Getting worn out, am sorry not to come up with the best possible arguments, M8s...
I'll add my agreement to this.Quote:
p.s. I can tell you znik is as honest as they come and he speaks the truth.
There is nothing wrong with believing something on the basis of someone's word. Often times that's all we have to rely upon. I appreciate a healthy dose of scepticism now and then but at the same time one cannot ignore integrity!! Znik strikes me as someone who strives for the truth rather than selectively fudging facts to support a particular postion.
my thoughts anyways...can be taken or left at your leisure.
Some interesting replies from Sear and Necronomicon in the last two pages. Actual discussion instead of the usual flame! :happy:
Ok let's continue this thought then. What's znik to gain here by posting this warning to other FST members? He knows his post is only going to get him attacked and flamed so why do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Necronomicon
Personally I know znik's a good guy but just curious what kind of argument you can bring up to say otherwise. ;)
I talked about Pablo, not znik. I do not doubt znik's generosity. Let's see the other way round. I am sick and tired of being misinterpreted and misunderstood all the time. Some of U just plain malevolent. Bye.
My reply was in no way saying you didn't believe znik, sorry if it came out that way. It just seemed to me that you were pointing out that no real proof had been posted or Pablo/Usomani being here to defend himself. I know there will be no real proof and The FTN invites is just topping on the cake.
This shit started a long time ago and isn't something that just happened right now. Things have been left out and they are gonna stay left out.
Hence my reply above.
this thread became boring..let it die
wait..i just made a bump..:(
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by marksman
yeah it seems it won't die after all
but i guess it's a good debate though i'm not anti-trader my self
but as a non-trader
i feel like this debate makes too much fuss lately .
I did not know that. Also - I still trade, and do not feel a bad person b/c of that. Before I quit I had made some giveaways. Then I thought better of it. I had enough. People started to develop the habit of requesting then demanding as if I'd feel obliged to do my daily routine. So I called it a day and quit. That does not mean that I won't resume my nasty habits, though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
Just had the feeling, that my Hungarian (well, I had only those up 4 grab, had to live with that) has not been appreciated and respected the way they should have been. Sorry 4 my bad English. Debating and reasoning here might actually improve my knowledge. ;)
And, again I ain't here for the sheer shake of debating.:yup:
Ok. Really sorry for taking long time to reply. Been busy searching for apartments :D
Well, all I ever did was ask for an FTN invite? is that all this is about? I would have happily stepped down if I would have been asked to. Anyway it was a pleasure talking to everyone inside Bit-ESC and its sad it had to end like this.
But before I leave just wanted everyone to see what's BCC all about -
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3810/bcczv6.png
Have fun fellas, those who know me, know where to find me ;)
I'm sorry, but I don't quite get it...that is not exactly a flattering post. Using ratio cheats on any site is wrong regardless of the justification that is suggested.
Wow, what a........ I don't have words for you, PabloEscobar. You're not just a cheater, but also a trader and scammer and you used like a millions of dupes in FST. And on top of that, when you realized that all your shit was revealed, you took a screenshot of the BCC and posted it here in public? Shame on you and I'm really sorry that FST just disabled your privileges but didn't ban you.
And don't just limit everything to a FTN invite alright. No one asked you to step down or something. We're asking you to get the fuck out. You've done way too many things which if revealed, would bring utter disgrace and shame upon you.
No you didn't ask just for FTN invite... As a Leader of Bit-Esc you should show all members a role model... PMing everybody about FTN invite, PMing me about Revolt dupe account... Is it right in your opinion ? For what is then invite (request) section ? You did many more things... I can't agree with them... And this is really childish to write here about BCC and posting here some screens (just to let you know i am not a BCC member). This thread is not about BCC, is about Bit-Esc and you...Quote:
Originally Posted by PabloEscobar
Exactly, this clearly shows his negativity. He SHOULD be the one sharing his invites with the members, not asking every new member that joins.Quote:
Originally Posted by TCD004No you didn't ask just for FTN invite... As a Leader of Bit-Esc you should show all members a role model... PMing everybody about FTN invite, PMing me about Revolt dupe account... Is it right in your opinion ? For what is then invite (request) section ? You did many more things... I can't agree with them... And this is really childish to write here about BCC and posting here some screens (just to let you know i am not a BCC member). This thread is not about BCC, is about Bit-Esc and you...Quote:
Originally Posted by PabloEscobar
Thanks Pablo for pointing out that BCC does NOT condone cheating in ANY form at all (see Falcon's reply).Quote:
Originally Posted by PabloEscobar
Just to clarify, BCC does NOT think sites like iptorrents and bitsoup are "crap". Bitsoup actually has one of the better communities out there. ;)
Anyway, as the guys above me said. It's not about BCC. It's about warning the FST community about... See znik's posts.