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Fuckin hell, all you people are all like OH MY GOD, someone tried to trade an invite KILL HIM !!!!1111one
But some tries to sell an invite (he said he never intended to, so I guess he was trying to steal someones money and never sell the actual invite) and a vote is just about even. This is why I consider most of you hypocritical fuckheads.
Thank you, have a nice day.
I don't care what you claim your subjective intent was when posting that thread, you manifested an intent to sell an invite. Trading is frowned upon, but selling invites is a special category of offenses. It's really odd that you claim it is your favorite site and you only did it in hopes of becoming a mod. Whether or not you stay, you've been branded as a fool.
I think it was settled that I was a hypocrite about 14 pages ago.Until just this moment no one seemed to have wised up to the fuckhead part though.Quote:
Originally Posted by puckface
And how the hell is this even relevant at all? Trading doesn't break FST rules, so if he was trading this thread wouldn't even be here in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by puckface
No one is condoning his actions, so an "even vote" in no way, means that we accept his practices. This "even vote" is simply regarding whether he should stay on FST, after he decided to break the forum rules. The thread, in no way, displays our opinions toward invite selling, simply toward his status as a member here.
So perhaps if you actually sat down for a while and actually thought about what the thread is for, you would realize we weren't "hypocritical fuckheads".
Thank you, have a nice day.
This is the oddest attempt to understand what I have posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by puckface
Also letters, I did not sell an invite, please read my first post. Thanks
No, but forget about it, you already voted against me without even acknowledging my first post.
I think this shows that you don't care about fst, because you don't care about the member quality.
Although that can clearly be seen through your 13 post count in 3 months.
WELL I had never heard of this "Tv Controls you" figure until this thread was posted, and don't see why I should care about him. Imo if he sold an invite on FST he should be banned because he's profiteering off of our board, and he's breaking the board rules. If he hasn't sold anything here then and hasn't been previously banned then I don't see the fuss, and think the rhetoric "innocent until proven guilty" should hold true until a pm of him soliciting selling invites is reported. I don't really know the background on this though, cause I don't care enough to read 150 posts. Maybe he should be banned or Dp'ed for some important reason that is left out of the OP.
Really, could you stop attempting to use "I didn't sell the invite, plz read first post" excuse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls youThis is the oddest attempt to understand what I have posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by puckface
Also letters, I did not sell an invite, please read my first post. Thanks
No, but forget about it, you already voted against me without even acknowledging my first post.
There are two things wrong with it:
1. You seem to use it every single time someone new posts something here. While it may be debatable whether you ever it did sell the invite, it's importance is negligible as you had the intent of selling from the beginning. It seems like simply a weak cop out excuse to try to gain some form of leverage as...
2. Puckface doesn't mention anywhere his post that you actually sold the invite. Could you stop getting defensive over something that wasn't even existent in his post? To me, that just makes it seem like you're using that generic excuse as a weak comeback to any post someone makes.
Real modest bud. I can tell you are most certainly attempting to receive some sort of redemption from this thread due to how highly you think of other members, while acting completely modest about your own worth. In no way do you believe that somehow you are more special and valuable than anyone else here.Quote:
I think this shows that you don't care about fst, because you don't care about the member quality.
Please... don't start playing the post count card. It's only making you look worse than you already do. In no way is that a representation of how valuable he is as a member.Quote:
Although that can clearly be seen through your 13 post count in 3 months.
TVCY, your hostile attitude towards nearly every member in this thread is no way helping your predicament. So perhaps let me reiterate a question I asked in the thread earlier: Are you seeking repentance or justification?
I still can't tell.
Repentance and although I defend myself I would like to remind people that I truly am sincere.
The posting of the thread on torrentinvites.net was highly immature and very foolish of me.
I am very sorry for my actions, and intend to do anything to correct them. Fst means alot to me and I wish
to make up for my wrong doings by supporting the forums and members here.
True sounds I posted the selling waffles invite on a forum called torrentinvites.net, around a week before joining fst. I never sold the invite.
I answered truthfully, you are not wanted here. It had nothing to do with selling invites, I just have a big thing against people who feel compelled to ask if whether or not they should be banned.
If you have to ask in a big jerkoff thread, then no you are not wanted.
I fully respect that you don't want me here, as long as you heard me out for what I had to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eargasm
Although it was suggested by a mod that I make this thread.
this is fabulous bedtime reading.
i spammed 1 in the vote btw, does that get me an invite on the house TVCU?
Thanks,Quote:
Originally Posted by brento
I'm glad you are enjoying this thread :D
Waffles.fm invites are closed atm. Although I have a bitgamer and pornbay giveaway thread, post their if your interested.
I did not say you sold an invite. Objectively, it appeared that you were willing to sell the invite, which is all that matters. Please read my post with a dictionary at hand if necessary. You're welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
Thanks for your vote, I can see you have put thought into your vote, so I can not argue as it is your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by lettersI did not say you sold an invite. Objectively, it appeared that you were willing to sell the invite, which is all that matters. Please read my post with a dictionary at hand if necessary. You're welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
Tvcy,if you start goin hard they'll stop bugging you.You are being too soft.Am not tryin to mess with your head but at times insults do work ;)
We very much enjoyed watching you make a fool out of yourself :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
look who's talking :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sez
I would start with sez, TVCY! :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by sez
...or you can just offer us all a discount rate on your invites.:naughty:
lol the second I type an insult, I am no longer seeking repentance, so I will allow everyone to speak of me in what ever tone they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by sez
Also megabyteme I'll give you the fst member discount rate. lol jk
:emo: I'm really happy for you, I'm gonna let you finish, but Beyoncé had one of the best videos of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by susiserkenWe very much enjoyed watching you make a fool out of yourself :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
gosh, this threat is totally crazy =/
was it all really necessary? argh!
I'll be here to close this in a few hours.
Whilst I dont usually bother to respond, nowhere does it say that he broke the rules of FST. My understanding of the first post is that he was caught being an invite seller(or offerer as the case may be), and those types are not wanted here, and was given a chance to plead his case to be able to stay here. How can it not be about the opinions of invite selling, thats the whole jist of the OP? paraphrasing: " I tried to trade, I got cause by Cabalo (presumably), I was gonna get kicked cause Im a seller, but Cabalo let me plead my case first."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rart
That being said, to answer your question about the "hypocritical fuckheads" part. Trading is frowned upon here, no? Selling is even worse, no? So it follows that the same people who condemn people for trading are letting the OP back onto FST who attempted to sell invites.. which as we agreed is worse than trading.
The point being that why condemn someone for one thing but let them slide for a worse offense.
If I misread or misunderstood the OP due to my 4th grade education, please consider me an illiterate fuckhead.
puckface,
There are a lot of "traders" among us. They are ostracized into their own sub-group, but are still members.
I cannot think of one known invite seller who is on FST. The OP was given the opportunity to plead his "case". Many spoke out against him being a member here at all. Others argued for disabled privileges. Some of us felt that he would not do that again and he was valuable enough to keep around. As I pointed out on page 1, he has been genuinely helpful to members here before any of this happened.
None of this means that anyone is going to risk their accounts by inviting the OP anywhere else. He will be able to post in threads, etc., but he will remain limited in the community. Ultimately, he will "pay" for his attempt/thought of invite selling.
As Rart said, this thread is about his ability to be a member, or not. No one has condoned anything.
If you do a member comparison between fst and torrentinvites, it would surprise you that there are more members from here there.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Also thanks for explaining the thread to puck
well wow I think it just got real up in hurr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
Don't ask don't tell my ass.Names?nicks?especially of those that you know are actually sellers.
I've had this theory that most traders are actually sellers but I've never found a way to prove it although it stems from the fact that of the two invites are just but a fuckin commodity.
Time to let your star shine tvcy.
This could be it.
You ain't gotta make it public if you don't wanna,pm cabalo the det's.
If this ends well you can ditch this dumb tvcy handle(its actually a sentence lol) and create a new one that only the mods know about,it'll save you alot soci-elly trust me.
From what I've read of it, this really is a very odd thread.
Sort of fascinating... sort of a car crash, can't decide which is more dominant.
It was a good idea to have it in many ways, but I'm not sure I've ever really seen this sort of 'democracy' on the internet work well, it usually just leaves the person who'd have to act on the results more uncertain than when they started. :)
I haven't voted as I'm really not sure, my forum head says a member shouldn't really be held responsible for something that happens elsewhere, especially if they've been prepared to enter into an open dialogue about their prior behaviour. I'm not really sure the op has broken FST rules.
My BT head says even the thought of invite selling is just so lame that person should just be fucked off whoever they are.
Not that I'm sure its a great deal worse than trading, you could even say someone who paid for an account might be less likely to abuse it than someone who traded their way in, but that's another discussion.
I think if it were up to me, I'd say that if TV Controls You was to stay on FST he shouldn't be allowed to participate in anything to do with invites. That means no trades, no giveway requests. and no giveaway offers either, in public or in private. He could probably circumvent those restrictions for a short time with effort but sooner or later someone would report him breaking them, and he'd be banned. If he stuck to them however and participated positively in the community in other ways then perhaps he could start to repair his reputation.
Just a thought.
so what if they would have promoted you moderator ? would you still consider torrentinvites as a "scummy place" and invite selling as a "terrible thing" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
nothing is less certain..
The only people I have found on both websites have been really inactive on this forum. I'm sure any big trader that sells, keeps both identities completely different, and some may even use a proxy depending on how anonymous they want to stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by sezwell wow I think it just got real up in hurr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
Don't ask don't tell my ass.Names?nicks?especially of those that you know are actually sellers.
I've had this theory that most traders are actually sellers but I've never found a way to prove it although it stems from the fact that of the two invites are just but a fuckin commodity.
Time to let your star shine tvcy.
This could be it.
You ain't gotta make it public if you don't wanna,pm cabalo the det's.
If this ends well you can ditch this dumb tvcy handle(its actually a sentence lol) and create a new one that only the mods know about,it'll save you alot soci-elly trust me.
I pmed cabalo any who.
Hello World. I decided to join the community when i heard about this specific debate. i personally work with TVcontrolsyou and am not here just to stand up for him. I am merely here to share my take on this incident from a personally point of view, whereas i know the guy! TVcontrolsyou(TCY) and I were previously members on the well known what.cd. When TCY invited someone through the schools proxy I, the person who invited him, the person he was inviting, and TCY himself, were all banned. At this time TCY was very distraught and i could see how much he cared about this site. he had an incredible ratio, including the fact that it is difficult to acquire a decent ratio on what.cd. i was pissed i was banned for this guys stupidity and surely hated him for a while but not long after i was on waffles and so was he. TCY has a nice secondary income coming primarily from the internet through his websites. With this being said i can see it being possible that he did try to sell invites. Although none were ever sold, which i confirmed, i do believe what he did was way out of line. Private sites rely heavily on the community and users of the site and selling invites just allows a possible "hit-and-run" user to join. Surely i don't agree with this, but i know TCY too well. he quickly gained credibility on the site through becoming a power user as soon as possible. He even set up a seedbox in a closet at his house for god's sake! Since the whole situation TCY has been "a wreck" to say the least. If he is banned from this site he many have to commit another crime, the PURCHASING of music. Although i strongly disagree with his intent to sell i cannot see this happen to a friend. who are we, fellow piraters, to judge the legalities of another man's actions. TCY commited treason, betraying the site and the community who support it. On the other hand we ourselves would be hypocrites to say he broke the rules, while we ourselves are breaking the laws. Through reading each and every post in this thread, all 19 pages at the time, i came to a conclusion on this Case of treason. I feel that we as a community must vote to allow Tvcontrolsyou to keep his account. I feel it is best that we vote to give him full access to his account, without limitations, for one critical reason. if we vote to put limits on his account we are surely telling Waffle's mod's how to do their job. i suggest they are notified of his "crime" and allow them to decide his final punishment. I do think he should be punished, but at the hand of the site he betrayed. thank you
I don't see how he could do that or put anyone in here in a bad spot if his privileges are revoked. Too many questions can be brought up in this situation. Sure the OP may regret his "attempted" invite sale but he could still do it in the future. His excuse made no sense to me at all. But it was not on this forum and if his he can't PM anyone, participate in the giveaway or trade section(Dp'ed), how could he hurt anyone here?
I agree. It was on another forum but is deceiving us here in a way. Could have just admitted it. Would have pegged him as a (attempted)invite seller but would be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadIrish
You bring up a good point about whether he actually broke FST rules, and TBH I'm not actually sure, it seems a little ambiguous. On the one hand he was selling invites, but it wasn't at FST. Then again, that doesn't say anything about whether he would continue to attempt this behavior on FST, and whether he is still wanted here.Quote:
Originally Posted by puckfaceWhilst I dont usually bother to respond, nowhere does it say that he broke the rules of FST. My understanding of the first post is that he was caught being an invite seller(or offerer as the case may be), and those types are not wanted here, and was given a chance to plead his case to be able to stay here. How can it not be about the opinions of invite selling, thats the whole jist of the OP? paraphrasing: " I tried to trade, I got cause by Cabalo (presumably), I was gonna get kicked cause Im a seller, but Cabalo let me plead my case first."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rart
That being said, to answer your question about the "hypocritical fuckheads" part. Trading is frowned upon here, no? Selling is even worse, no? So it follows that the same people who condemn people for trading are letting the OP back onto FST who attempted to sell invites.. which as we agreed is worse than trading.
The point being that why condemn someone for one thing but let them slide for a worse offense.
If I misread or misunderstood the OP due to my 4th grade education, please consider me an illiterate fuckhead.
But I just wanted to reiterate an earlier point: in no way are we letting him "slide" for his behavior. I'm pretty sure that the majority of the people in this thread don't, and never will agree with his behavior. If this thread was on the topic how immoral it is, I'm sure the backlash would be much heavier than a topic about trading. This thread is purely focused on whether he should remain a member at FST, which is why the general attitude may seem less harsh than it should be. He hadn't sold invites at FST, but at another forum, which seems to the mods as a gray area. Thus, they are allowing the users here decide whether he should stay, which may result in differing opinions.
The simple fact remains that TV is pleading his case because he got caught, not because he feels remorse for earlier actions, he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar by a mod here. It is not his remorse we are dealing with at all, and for a 25 year old to want to fit in and be a mod on a forum by selling invites is pretty pathetic ?
If he had come and pleaded his case because of earlier transgressions through a sense of moral duty it would be a different story and many have here over time, realised that they had done wrong and asked for the community's understanding, but that is not the case here, he is pleading his case because he got caught not because of genuine remorse. If Cabalo had not caught him in the act who knows what would have happened ?
I am attempting to tell everyone that I would not have sold it. I even have evidence to back that up because I posted a giveaway here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
Your looking for further proof I can't provide. I can't send you a screenshot of my thoughts.
I posted the giveaway around one week and a half before being confronted by cabalo.
I think it is reasonable and quite obvious to see that at this time I had a change of heart.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by doctrine9128
We are an active community that has its own rules and norms.
As for "breaking the laws", most of what goes on here can be done at a local library. As long as no money is changing hands, there is no victim in this. If people are using the community to make a profit, we react.
Your attempt to sound intelligent has given me a headache. Please tell me you don't talk like this all the time and you have just seen Amistad too many times.:blink:
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omg lol I'm going to call him John Quincy Adams now lol.
Its even more funny that his name is doctrine, he is a lawyer and he doesn't know it.
Please don't turn this into a joke. You committed a heinous act to the world of private trackers. Even if you did offer a free give away many of us, the FST community, disagree with that. I'm beginning to reconsider my decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
:lol: You do talk like that all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by doctrine9128Please don't turn this into a joke. You committed a heinous act to the world of private trackers. Even if you did offer a free give away many of us, the FST community, disagree with that. I'm beginning to reconsider my decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
BTW, "this" is not being turned into a joke. You are.
OMG, yer one of them fancy lads, aren't you?
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Originally Posted by doctrine9128
He should get the chair
I believe that is not legal in new jersey, rather its lethal injection. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by VillallthewayQuote:
Originally Posted by doctrine9128
He should get the chair
I thought in Jersey, they just beat ya with tire irons. :unsure: