Fucking women... the mini series... part 5

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Originally Posted by Alien5

I would rather act as if not to give a shit about it and remain a member and post freely
,positively and confidently knowing there is nothing more they can really do to you other than insult you.

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As I pointed out before, Allen, your point value is minimized by the fact that you believe it is 1976, and you see disco lights when you close your eyes. :mellow:

The point is that Reject is a stalker- that is the ONLY viable reason he came here. He spouted off for the first two weeks about how much he hated women, what they had done to him, and PARTICULARLY one woman, ""that woman"- who just HAPPENS to frequent this site.

The message was VERY clear to anyone who was made aware that "that woman" was the ENTIRE reason why he came here. He's a stalker, and he wants to be able to continue without being treated like a stalker creep.

He should not have been allowed to remain on this site as long as he has already- yet alone run carte blanche with it.

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Originally Posted by megabyteme

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Originally Posted by Alien5

I would rather act as if not to give a shit about it and remain a member and post freely
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As I pointed out before, Allen, your point value is minimized by the fact that you believe it is 1976, and you see disco lights when you close your eyes. :mellow:

The point is that Reject is a stalker- that is the ONLY viable reason he came here. He spouted off for the first two weeks about how much he hated women, what they had done to him, and PARTICULARLY one woman, ""that woman"- who just HAPPENS to frequent this site.

The message was VERY clear to anyone who was made aware that "that woman" was the ENTIRE reason why he came here. He's a stalker, and he wants to be able to continue without being treated like a stalker creep.

He should not have been allowed to remain on this site as long as he has already- yet alone run carte blanche with it.

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You make good points, it's difficult to disagree, and he isn't going to be allowed to run with it unhindered.

Perhaps the lack of moderation in the lounge, while fucking awesome for the most part, has been exposed in this case as a bad thing.
I want to continue the lack of moderating in almost every respect except for the unhindered persistent spastic thing.

Unless there's something else the bored think I should do?

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Originally Posted by manker

Unless there's something else the bored think I should do?

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Maybe request frequent members to stop feeding the troll, if he isn't to be removed permanently? (He did say he would go last night, but that didn't come to fruition... methinks he craves the attention)

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Originally Posted by megabyteme

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Originally Posted by Alien5

I would rather act as if not to give a shit about it and remain a member and post freely
,positively and confidently knowing there is nothing more they can really do to you other than insult you.

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As I pointed out before, Allen, your point value is minimized by the fact that you believe it is 1976, and you see disco lights when you close your eyes. :mellow:

The point is that Reject is a stalker- that is the ONLY viable reason he came here. He spouted off for the first two weeks about how much he hated women, what they had done to him, and PARTICULARLY one woman, ""that woman"- who just HAPPENS to frequent this site.

The message was VERY clear to anyone who was made aware that "that woman" was the ENTIRE reason why he came here. He's a stalker, and he wants to be able to continue without being treated like a stalker creep.

He should not have been allowed to remain on this site as long as he has already- yet alone run carte blanche with it.

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I understand that he is being labeled as a stalker once, but if he is allowed to carry on posting here nothing will change until people either let it go or change their mind about who he is now, if he has changed.

People do actually change believe it or not, so in the future those people who hate him might actually like him, I don't care either way, I'm just saying this because I'm fed up reading the exact same argument going round in circles eternally stuck the end.

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Originally Posted by Burnsy

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Originally Posted by manker

Unless there's something else the bored think I should do?

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Maybe request frequent members to stop feeding the troll, if he isn't to be removed permanently? (He did say he would go last night, but that didn't come to fruition... methinks he craves the attention)

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I think that people have the right to reply, even to trolls. The guys who reply mostly in this instance are entirely capable of deciding for themselves what is appropriate and when to step back.

Plus there often isn't much else to do here.

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I'm only here to read about you sad lot.

I don't care really

Arguing back is natural, but someone has got to have the Balls to shut the fuck up about the past and move on or move in.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

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Originally Posted by manker

You make good points, it's difficult to disagree, and he isn't going to be allowed to run with it unhindered.

Perhaps the lack of moderation in the lounge, while fucking awesome for the most part, has been exposed in this case as a bad thing.
I want to continue the lack of moderating in almost every respect except for the unhindered persistent spastic thing.

Unless there's something else the bored think I should do?

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Yeah I think you should prove the nasty claims you've been vilifying me with for months.

Or am I to be banned quietly, without anyone ever getting to see anything to support your campaign of hatred?

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You'll just have to wait and see, Dave.
Are you excited.

It's more likely, though, you won't be banned at all if you stop doing things like that comment last night.
I continue to hold out moderate hope, it's just the kind of guy I am.

As to the 'proof', I'm happy for people to decide for themselves given the cavalcade of literature already posted.

IMO, Dave has had FAR too long to spew his bile at Squeams. As has been discussed recently, there is a difference between the safe internet individual, and the real, potentially unsafe, individual.

Dave has expressed his hatred for "that woman" many, many times. He has shown up at her residence as an admitted response to posts here.

The real lives of these people have crossed here on FST. This is VASTLY different than smacking around a troll (which Dave is also), or one of a thousand million other morons/mentalists who stumble in on a regular basis.

In hindsight, Dave should have been IP banned as soon as it was realized his hatred for "that woman" was aimed specifically at the only regularly posting female of the section (what are the odds of chance here? :frusty: ). And Dave has many, many hate-filled posts regarding "that woman".

FST is an open forum, but not one open to real-life hatred. As Art brilliantly pointed out, this is not Misogyny Anonymous. No one placed a sign inviting him to come pour his enraged, trampled little heart out here. That was among the first things he did which inflamed people's dislike for him. No one is suggesting any section should be based on popularity with the "regulars", but it became abundantly clear "this individual" had some serious issues with his past, and obvious issues dealing with "that woman" in particular. As a result of his vitrealic posting habits, the regulars have formed a unified dislike for him.

Had Dave's situation not involved a real-life member, things would be different. However, it does not take a scientist (we have a couple), an accountant (got one of 'em, too), or a genious (now, how many of us them do we have) to sort out that this situation is past due for remedy.

Dave wants bygones to be bygones, and wants to be allowed to start fresh. Personally, I do not want him around. I'm serious about that. He has asked that she "stay completely the fuck away", but she is not the one going to sites he frequents. Nor is she showing up at his house. I believe there is ONLY one solution to this- that is, Dave stay completely []away from FST and "that woman".

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by Burnsy

Maybe request frequent members to stop feeding the troll, if he isn't to be removed permanently? (He did say he would go last night, but that didn't come to fruition... methinks he craves the attention)

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I think that people have the right to reply, even to trolls. The guys who reply mostly in this instance are entirely capable of deciding for themselves what is appropriate and when to step back.

Plus there often isn't much else to do here.

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I'll use an example I used elsewhere, earlier... if you seen a wounded animal being kicked in the street, with very little chance of recovery... I would like to think that either a) The injured animal would be removed from the situation to give it time to convalesce, or b) Be put down to ease it's suffering...

In this instance it seems as though the repeated kicking of this wounded animal has become nothing more than a spectator sport for everyone to crowd round and join in with...

And before it's mentioned that this animal could run away if it wanted... it quite obviously can't... I think most people are in agreement that there's some serious issues going on and would therefore question the mental capacity to make an informed/sensible decision.

Thats a good way of putting it

Why don't we have a poll to decide it, that's the only way.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

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Originally Posted by Alien5

I understand that he is being labeled as a stalker once, but if he is allowed to carry on posting here nothing will change until people either let it go or change their mind about who he is now, if he has changed.

People do actually change believe it or not, so in the future those people who hate him might actually like him, I don't care either way, I'm just saying.

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Don't waste your time Allen, I've already had the heads up about how the man who is now a mod, has intention to ban me at the first available opportunity, it seems that it will fullfil his ambitions and finalise his part the nasty shit him and his mates have thrown at me for months.

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In all fairness, I could do that now.

I'm happy to do as Allen suggested and see if you can rein in those sporadic tendencies to operate in a manner which causes eyebrows to raise on even this, the most benignly moderated sub-forum on the internets.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

So manker can I expect you to censure that nasty set of false accusations that MBM has just made against me?

Or to repremand him for his continued deliberate and intentional attempts to bully me?

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Funny you should say that, I was just about to PM him to commend his restraint after what you posted about his son. He behaved with dignity and class in the face of a post which is unheralded it its vileness.

Chapeau, mbm :smilie4:

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Originally Posted by Burnsy

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Originally Posted by manker

I think that people have the right to reply, even to trolls. The guys who reply mostly in this instance are entirely capable of deciding for themselves what is appropriate and when to step back.

Plus there often isn't much else to do here.

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I'll use an example I used elsewhere, earlier... if you seen a wounded animal being kicked in the street, with very little chance of recovery... I would like to think that either a) The injured animal would be removed from the situation to give it time to convalesce, or b) Be put down to ease it's suffering...

In this instance it seems as though the repeated kicking of this wounded animal has become nothing more than a spectator sport for everyone to crowd round and join in with...

And before it's mentioned that this animal could run away if it wanted... it quite obviously can't... I think most people are in agreement that there's some serious issues going on and would therefore question the mental capacity to make an informed/sensible decision.

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I think what you're suggesting is to ban Dave for his own good.

I've posted that I think it's unhealthy for Dave to continue posting in that manner and that he ought to ignore people, including me, who goad him about this.
But it's only advice, I don't think forcibly taking the right of reply away is the right thing to do, at least not permanently.

It seems that before I even knew I was a mod, the other mods decided just to keep an eye on it, so I reckon that's what will happen.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

So manker can I expect you to censure that nasty set of false accusations that MBM has just made against me?

Or to repremand him for his continued deliberate and intentional attempts to bully me?

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Once again, Dave, if I am bullying you, then there must be some effect to that bullying, otherwise, you would not be crying for reprieve.

Am I picking on you, or not, little man? :console:

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

Oh! I'm fully aware of that, which is why I won't be engaging in any kind of private discussion with you, without copying in the man who decided he would expose me to your mercy.

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You need a chaperone.

Bless.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

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Originally Posted by manker

Funny you should say that, I was just about to PM him to commend his restraint after what you posted about his son. He behaved with dignity and class in the face of a post which is unheralded it its vileness.

Chapeau, mbm :smilie4:

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That's cool, I should state upfront that as he has publicly declared his intention to attempt to bully me off of this board, and that as any response I make to him is only going to result in me being banned. I will be using the board report feature to report any of his hate filled posts that he makes at or about me.

It'll be interesting to see how long his campaign of hatred is allowed to continue.

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Poor widdle Dave. :console:

At least you don't have to worry about me showing up at your place of residence...

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

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Originally Posted by manker

It seems that before I even knew I was a mod, the other mods decided just to keep an eye on it, so I reckon that's what will happen.

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As a mod you can see that I asked them to look at it, when you were fully engaged in participating in the campaign of nastiness against me.

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Campaign of nastiness :lol:

d'awwh.

Afternoon, Dave. What's occurring this fine Sunday.

You've got your knick-knacks in a knot today, Dave, and no mistake. You didn't see that one coming, Dave. Shit, neither did I.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

This forum requires that you wait 180 seconds between reporting posts. Please try again in 120 seconds.

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Nice comeback, Dave. One of your most brilliantly expressed, I must say...

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Originally Posted by manker

I think what you're suggesting is to ban Dave for his own good.

I've posted that I think it's unhealthy for Dave to continue posting in that manner and that he ought to ignore people, including me, who goad him about this.
But it's only advice, I don't think forcibly taking the right of reply away is the right thing to do, at least not permanently.

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That is exactly what I'm suggesting.

But you won't, even when it's quite clear that the person in question is unable to detach himself from the issues at hand, and make what is clearly a sensible decision?

The guy cannot let it go... will not let it go... and cannot see that people are continually ripping the piss out of him for their own amusement...

"not taking the right of reply away" is a complete kop out, or another way of saying... "yeah I know it's for his own good, but this is too much funbut the guy has rights to you know...".

The only other scenario is that the guy is quite possibly the best troll I've ever come across, and if that is the case then a troll who has made some of the statements/comments that he has, should have been removed from the forums a long, long time ago.

Dave/reject, or whatever else he's to be called knows himself that this repeated BS day in, day out, does him no good at all... but he can't allow himself to walk away from it... he has some perverse idea that he must stand his ground... and will therefore continue in the same vein, and this issue won't go away.

Let the spectacle continue, I suppose...

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Originally Posted by Burnsy

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Originally Posted by manker

I think what you're suggesting is to ban Dave for his own good.

I've posted that I think it's unhealthy for Dave to continue posting in that manner and that he ought to ignore people, including me, who goad him about this.
But it's only advice, I don't think forcibly taking the right of reply away is the right thing to do, at least not permanently.

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That is exactly what I'm suggesting.

But you won't, even when it's quite clear that the person in question is unable to detach himself from the issues at hand, and make what is clearly a sensible decision?

The guy cannot let it go... will not let it go... and cannot see that people are continually ripping the piss out of him for their own amusement...

"not taking the right of reply away" is a complete kop out, or another way of saying... "yeah I know it's for his own good, but this is too much funbut the guy has rights to you know...".

The only other scenario is that the guy is quite possibly the best troll I've ever come across, and if that is the case then a troll who has made some of the statements/comments that he has, should have been removed from the forums a long, long time ago.

Dave/reject, or whatever else he's to be called knows himself that this repeated BS day in, day out, does him no good at all... but he can't allow himself to walk away from it... he has some perverse idea that he must stand his ground... and will therefore continue in the same vein, and this issue won't go away.

Let the spectacle continue, I suppose...

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kop out, are you a scouser :o
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Nah, I know what you mean.
It's no fun for me to rip the piss out of Dave. Not any more. I made a fantastic post about fish and barrels recently to illustrate this. I won't do it any more unless I'm particularly bored, I guess.

I am sincere, however, when I say that I don't believe in taking away the right to reply. I honestly don't and won't.
The decision to log out remains with Dave.

Unless he gets himself banned by doing something like he did last night or something else which me or a different mod thinks could cause harm to another member.

Or, I suppose, if a different mod agrees with what you're saying.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

It seems your friends are attempting to bait me so that manker can use his newly acquired mod powers to ban me, so basically there's a shit load of post reporting going on.

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To quote the great bird (Tweety, not Big)..."Help! Help! Somebody save me! Heeeelp!" and "Ooohhh what a hypotwit!

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

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Originally Posted by chavis

Afternoon, Dave. What's occurring this fine Sunday.

You've got your knick-knacks in a knot today, Dave, and no mistake. You didn't see that one coming, Dave. Shit, neither did I.

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Hello chavis,

It seems your friends are attempting to bait me so that manker can use his newly acquired mod powers to ban me, so basically there's a shit load of post reporting going on.

How are you today old chap?

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I'm pretty fucking fantastic, Dave. My face has been shifting from smirk to grin and back to smirk again all the do long day. Where's your sense of humour, Dave.

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Originally Posted by manker

kop out, are you a scouser :o
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Am I bollocks... just watching the Carling Cup pre match stuff... and had a bit of a moment :lol:

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Originally Posted by manker

Unless he gets himself banned by doing something like he did last night or something else which me or a different mod thinks could cause harm to another member.

Or, I suppose, if a different mod agrees with what you're saying.

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Like, say, showing up at an estranged ex-'s house uninvited. Like that, right?

IMO, this is PAST DUE for deeds already done.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

Discussing another member with someone else, with regards to how you will or might use your newly acquired mod powers against him, must be in contravention of the board rules, Rule 9 seems to apply, because it's definitely inflammatory and offensive towards me, and then there's Rule 14 which states that mods decisions and powers are not up for public discussion.

This looks like a public discussion to me.

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Squirm. Squirm. Squirm, Little Man. :lol:

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Originally Posted by manker

I am sincere, however, when I say that I don't believe in taking away the right to reply. I honestly don't and won't.
The decision to log out remains with Dave.

Unless he gets himself banned by doing something like he did last night or something else which me or a different mod thinks could cause harm to another member.

Or, I suppose, if a different mod agrees with what you're saying.

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So despite the fact you "know what I mean" (and possibly agree it's wrong maybe?), and that you also have the ability to do something right that wrong, you're not going to due to some beliefs which quite clearly shouldn't apply when the situation in question involves someone without the apparent mental capacity to make the decision which would logically have been the only alternative?

So as I said previously... "let the spectacle continue"

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Originally Posted by manker

You need a chaperone.

Bless.

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That's 'chapeau' and 'chaperone' in the same thread. If you're going to continue in this French vein I'm going to have to request you be removed as a moderator :smilie4:

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

Discussing another member with someone else, with regards to how you will or might use your newly acquired mod powers against him, must be in contravention of the board rules, Rule 9 seems to apply, because it's definitely inflammatory and offensive towards me, and then there's Rule 14 which states that mods decisions and powers are not up for public discussion.

This looks like a public discussion to me.

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stfu. i'm your daddy now

luls, interweb forum srs bzns ftw:smilie4: