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No it wasnt for code breaking... he wasnt some army intell gatherer... it was attempting to pirate dvds with his source code... See article, of course he was aquited, as they had no proof to show he used decss for piracy means.
however my point in the matter was, to show they can get you, in another country or not, if they want you bad enough... and he was from norway apparently.
Did he not invent a program that broke the encryption of an encrypted piece of software?Quote:
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@23 April 2003 - 14:47
No it wasnt for code breaking... he wasnt some army intell gatherer... it was attempting to pirate dvds with his source code... See article, of course he was aquited, as they had no proof to show he used decss for piracy means.
however my point in the matter was, to show they can get you, in another country or not, if they want you bad enough... and he was from norway apparently.
He did so ergo broke the international law, whether you are breaking an email encryption code or software serial key its the same thing.
Yet they couldnt do him for it since they couldnt proove he was actually using the prog to copy dvds to sell: hence making a profit
I did find this website: http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyrigh...ght/law(01).htm
bottom of the page:
Acts that do not infringe copyright
'Fair dealing’ is a term used to describe acts which are permitted to a certain degree (normally copies of parts of a work) without infringing copyright, these acts are; Private and research study purposes. Performance, copies or lending for educational purposes. Criticism and news reporting. Incidental inclusion. Copies and lending by librarians. Acts for the purposes of Royal Commissions, statutory enquiries, judicial proceedings and parliamentary purposes. Recording of broadcasts for the purposes of listening to or viewing at a more convenient time, this is known as ‘time shifting’. Producing a back up copy for personal use of a computer program. Playing sound recording for a non profit making organisation, club or society. [Profit making organisations and individuals should obtain a licence from the Performing Rights Society.]
notice the thing about public use
go figure :P
and that is UK law
USA laws do not apply to UK, we have our own laws.
Xanex
that may be so, but he clearly wasnt charged with it... so its irrelevant.
he was charged with piracy/attempted piracy... etc....
And he was aquitted, they may be able to get to you but they cant do dick about it. so ergo they cant get to you!
i think i have won this round.
UK law wins as far as im concernd. and since im UK it aplpies to me.
One would argue that an audio cd played on a pc is but a program.
Yet i agree the encryption things is true, example PS1 PS2 games are encrpyted
Xanex
The UK Government will not extradite you for a crime which is not recognised as a crime in the United Kingdom.
There are international arrest warrants formembers of certain organisation, who are living in the UK. The crime is being a member of that organisation. The UK Government will not enforce these warrants, or grant extradition because there is no such offence in the UK. I think that is more serious than file sharing.
It is however perfectly possible to commit a crime in a country which you are not in, or have never been in. The most obvious examples are drug trafficking and money laundering. In these cases extradition could be sought and is likely to be granted.
I can say with a high degree of certainly that no-one is likely to be extradited from Scotland for fiscal offences. Unless they are of a very substantial size. The powers are reserved for serious matters.
You seem to be confusing "US law" with international "treaty".
RIAA is hardly interested in extradicting you to the US to stand trial. They don't have to.
The UK signed the treaty which enables your prosecution right from the comfort of Ole Blighty.
Sorry you'll not get the trans-Atlantic plane trip, I hear the pretzels are to die for.
Are you saying that someone in the UK could stand trial, in the UK, for something which is an offence in another country.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@23 April 2003 - 18:08
You seem to be confusing "US law" with international "treaty".
RIAA is hardly interested in extradicting you to the US to stand trial. They don't have to.
The UK signed the treaty which enables your prosecution right from the comfort of Ole Blighty.
Sorry you'll not get the trans-Atlantic plane trip, I hear the pretzels are to die for.
Who would the prosecuting body be.
Which treaty is this you speak of. I would really like to ahve a look at that.
boy, aint that a bitch if thats true.
I shan't insult you with another of my nonfunctional links .Quote:
Originally posted by JmiF@23 April 2003 - 13:06
Which treaty is this you speak of. I would really like to ahve a look at that.
The treaty to which I refer can be sourced by Googling "WTO-WIPO."
That stands for World Trade Organization - World Intellectual Property rights Organization.
The name alone should give you a fair idea about the rabbit in the box.
My eyes grew tired and my brain grew weary trying to wade through the jargon and I would love to be dissuaded from my belief that even if this treaty doesn't specifically refer to our present topic of conversation, then it at least lays the groundwork for future worldwide enforcement of what has been called "US law".
C'mon guys, is it unreasonable to believe that British, or Scottish(?) or Welsh media groups are just as upset about the p2p piracy as Sony is? Don't you think that they are doing everything in their power to seek redress?
I envy you your apparent invulnerability from attack and hope that you continue to enjoy it.
But I certainly wouldn't bet the bairn on it.
http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/trips_..._e/wtowip_e.htm
I assume you said this as a joke as it is entirely irrelevant to this discussion.