Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by j2k4
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Originally Posted by leonidas
It is for instance totally correct to say many whites are rich and many blacks are poor,
It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I assumed it was obvious I was talking about proportions, your statement focusing on the quantity only is irrelevant. declaring considering the amount, that there are more poor white people than black ones in Usa, doesn't support any usefull statement since we are not celebrating the poor bastards awards :D You are beeing sofisticated in your explanations, I think
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by leonidas
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Originally Posted by j2k4
It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I assumed it was obvious I was talking about proportions, your statement focusing on the quantity only is irrelevant. declaring considering the amount, that there are more poor white people than black ones in Usa, doesn't support any usefull statement since we are not celebrating the poor bastards awards :D You are beeing sofisticated in your explanations, I think
Then I must say your statement as to "proportion" is incomplete, and serves a likewise incomplete argument.
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by Busyman
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Originally Posted by j2k4
It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I'm going to vomit.:sick:
...or disgorge the ingredients located within my epigastrium.:ermm:
:D I quite, on the contrary, like that language. it mproves my english a lot.
If you know any movie or tv show in which the caracters use that kind of language, please tell me. Iwould love it!
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by leonidas
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Originally Posted by Busyman
I'm going to vomit.:sick:
...or disgorge the ingredients located within my epigastrium.:ermm:
:D I quite, on the contrary, like that language. it might improve my english.
That was quite an awkward amalgam of words.
It would have rolled off the tongue more cleanly had he merely said, '...or disgorge the contents of my epigastrium'.
He'd already established the basic thrust of his comment by divulging his urge to "vomit". :)
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by Busyman™
I watched 60 Minutes the other day and Leslie Stahl asked a group of Chinese students (almost all boys btw) how many kids they wanted and they all said one.
Then many of them spouted Chinese doctrine about sacrificing for the country. Now this is all congruent with the population situation over there. However, the students thought Americans were selfish for having more than one kid.:unsure:
hey, there's still plenty worse places to live in the world. just ask all those people who keep trying to escape from north korea in order to defect to china. stuff is relative shades of grey, etc.
i just saw something a little while ago on foxnews.com, people writing what they'd say to president bush re: wiretaps & privacy if they had the chance. uh. quite a few people spouting american doctrine about "i'd gladly trade away my freedom in exchange for safety" and "why do you need privacy, if you got nothing to hide." >:/
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by j2k4
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Originally Posted by leonidas
I assumed it was obvious I was talking about proportions, your statement focusing on the quantity only is irrelevant. declaring considering the amount, that there are more poor white people than black ones in Usa, doesn't support any usefull statement since we are not celebrating the poor bastards awards :D You are beeing sofisticated in your explanations, I think
Then I must say your statement as to "proportion" is incomplete, and serves a likewise incomplete argument.
Indeed, You're right.
One hardly manage to have a complete view on something. That's why one has to introduce, read, study, a subject choosing what he thinks is "the most relevant way to see it".
That's actually what makes journalists so powerfull (assuming they are not under coercition), as they have, given their status, a total control on the way they are going to talk about the subject.
The only obligation they have, (assuming they have the very minimum of integrity), is that each piece of information they provide is not a lie.
Remember the human beeing has only his 5 senses, and his limited brain. If he wants to see what's behind him, he has to choose to turn arround, and then he doesn't see anymore what's in front of him.
I'm affraid with that last sentence I discredited myself, now you are going to think I am a crasy buddah or something :)
