Strategies for Ratio

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Originally Posted by UKMan

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Originally Posted by Bo0ddha

Depends on what tracker your using. You have to be selective in what you download. If you can find a release on a easy tracker (TL and the like) download it from there. Only download rare files you can't find anywhere else on hard to seed trackers. Another really good method is to download 1 complete tv episode that is hosted on multiple trackers. Download it and seed it on all the trackers. Then you aren't even using your download credits to seed it. It's not impossible. It just takes a little time and effort.

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I understand you bro - but at the end of the day its all about bytes - nothing else. If you upload to 5 trackers, you cannot upload more than what your bandwidth allows anyway, someone with a good DL bandwidth will take whatever from others - BUT ratio is not just what you upload, its also DL - so when you want a good film, you have to upload equal bytes to maintain that ratio - no matter WHAT film/music file/image or whatever you have uploaded before.

The only TRUE way to get GOOD ratio is to buy credits - you cannot cheat the system really - if you have a ratio of 15.0 - that means crap if all you are talking about is seeding a music file - you will have to seed that file for a whole week before you can even start downloading a good DVD-R.

UK

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I've never had to buy credits. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of free. I don't understand why you would ever want to buy credits. If your going to do that just start using the newsgroups. One flat fee and you never have to worry about any of the ratio problems.

Seeding is a little like investing, since you have to pick a good torrent early on that you think other people will want, so that you will be able to seed it well.

I tend to try to seed winapps, since they are a common interest to everyone. They are more desirable by a broader spectrum of people than say, movies or music, because everyone wants the same windows apps, whereas not everyone wants the same music or movies. It is kind of like a G-rated version of seeding porn, which is another genre that appeals to a wide range of people.

But a lot of keeping a good ratio has to do with bandwidth, and there is no way around that except paying more money for an upgrade/seedbox if you have slow bandwidth. Thats life though, nothing is free. :-p

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Originally Posted by Bo0ddha

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Originally Posted by UKMan

I understand you bro - but at the end of the day its all about bytes - nothing else. If you upload to 5 trackers, you cannot upload more than what your bandwidth allows anyway, someone with a good DL bandwidth will take whatever from others - BUT ratio is not just what you upload, its also DL - so when you want a good film, you have to upload equal bytes to maintain that ratio - no matter WHAT film/music file/image or whatever you have uploaded before.

The only TRUE way to get GOOD ratio is to buy credits - you cannot cheat the system really - if you have a ratio of 15.0 - that means crap if all you are talking about is seeding a music file - you will have to seed that file for a whole week before you can even start downloading a good DVD-R.

UK

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I've never had to buy credits. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of free. I don't understand why you would ever want to buy credits. If your going to do that just start using the newsgroups. One flat fee and you never have to worry about any of the ratio problems.

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Once again i agree in the principal of "not paying" - what i am trying to get over is why people download crap just because they can seed it to get good ratio? Why not download a good quality film instead that you are going to seed just as fast and also get the same ratio? Ratio is a trade of BYTES - no matter WHAT you DL or upload :)

UK

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Originally Posted by UKMan

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Originally Posted by Bo0ddha

I've never had to buy credits. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of free. I don't understand why you would ever want to buy credits. If your going to do that just start using the newsgroups. One flat fee and you never have to worry about any of the ratio problems.

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Once again i agree in the principal of "not paying" - what i am trying to get over is why people download crap just because they can seed it to get good ratio? Why not download a good quality film instead that you are going to seed just as fast and also get the same ratio? Ratio is a trade of BYTES - no matter WHAT you DL or upload :)

UK

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by UKMan

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Originally Posted by Bo0ddha

I've never had to buy credits. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of free. I don't understand why you would ever want to buy credits. If your going to do that just start using the newsgroups. One flat fee and you never have to worry about any of the ratio problems.

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Once again i agree in the principal of "not paying" - what i am trying to get over is why people download crap just because they can seed it to get good ratio? Why not download a good quality film instead that you are going to seed just as fast and also get the same ratio? Ratio is a trade of BYTES - no matter WHAT you DL or upload :)

UK

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I dont think this can be more wrong in some cases. I always DL crap just to get my Ratio up. Not Full DL's but at least acouple of files while there is still a lot of leechers on it. That way just on a 100MB File(Give or take), i can get like a 5:1 ratio, Now do that twice and thats 1GB up/0.2 DL.

Do it acouple of more times, now go DL that File you wanted with 300 seeders and no leechers.

Just My thoughts,
Fibo

Don't forget what if you want that rare or favorite classic movie/tv show/music album that isn't that popular? Then you have to just download it and leave it seeding for weeks to try and get a 1:1 on it. The other alternative is to just download a few pieces and seed for a few days.

well, i guess we all have our own thoughts about this and each is just as valid - but when you are a member of a private torrent board, the individual seed rations mean nothing - its overall ratios that count - so a 5:1 ratio for 1 file means nothing if that file is only 200Kb - when you DL a film, then.......... whoops - all that is gone :)

UKMan

Stay cool everyone - share and seed what you can ;)