OK, Talk me out of BT(pros & cons)

BT couldnt pay me to use it
Newsgroups i would be happy to eat shit for it

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Originally Posted by orfik

That's funny, because I've had great luck with waffles and what.cd when it comes to proper logs, but it may just be the type of music I listen to (it breeds anal retention). For the log itself, I'm only interested in proper pre-gap length, CRC verification, no c2, and no extraction errors.

Offset correction is useless to me. Read correction is to make sure it doesn't lose small fractions of seconds at the beginning of data set, which only really matters very far down the reproduction line, when those errors affect real data and not complete silence.

To verify whether or not the rip is lossless, I just convert the FLACs to WAVs and run them through Cool Edit Pro for WA/SA. You seem pretty knowledgeable, though, so tell me if I should really bother verifying them through Daemon Tools.

And I don't know. I'm only care about music and obscure film, and Newsgroups just didn't do anything for me. DC was on par in my experience. Maybe I'll try it again.

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There are several popular methods, though I am not familiar with the Cool Edit Pro method.

Most bullshit rips are done with a virtual drive and 99% of people use Daemon Tools as their virtual drive of choice. Since asshole pneubs are predictable and I assume they use Daemon Tools, I just retrace their steps. I won't go into detail with the how-to's as I won't teach anyone how to falsify rips. (Not saying you, just in general)

A good place to start is Audiochecker - http://www.dester.hu/English/home_e.html

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Originally Posted by Dean141

BT couldnt pay me to use it
Newsgroups i would be happy to eat shit for it

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How graphic. Anyway, I used to use audiochecker, but it returned too many false positives (1 in 20). Cool Edit allows you to run a spectral analysis on the WAV to see if it represents the full frequency spectrum. You can tell the difference between a proper WAV and a transcode by looking for compression artifacts in the waveform. So, at the end of the day, if I download an album with a proper log, proper cue, and impeccable music files, then kudos to the uploader if it is a fake, since they went through way too much trouble.

I wouldn't mind trying Newsgroups again, though. What's the best free option?