Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
In practice, a "warez site" is anything the copyright cartel define it to be. There are no boundaries.
Does anyone remember the TV-links bust 2 years ago?
http://www.thenewfreedom.net/wp/2007...wner-arrested/
TV-links was a site that had links to YouTube, Google, and other supposedly "legal" video sites.
But despite that their sole "crime" was linking to pages on a legal website, TV-Links was busted. Theirs servers confiscated, and the admin and several mods (in more than one country) were arrested and their houses searched.
TV-links is only one of many sites to be busted this way. It seems that the one thing that the admins of all these busted 'link' sites had in common was that they all thought they were abiding by the letter of the law (since they hosted no actual content) and therefore had nothing to fear.
One busted site, ShareConnector, actually won its case in court, but the long, hard battle eventually took its toll, and the site admins lost the desire to keep on fighting, and shut down the ED2K site so they wouldn't any longer have to deal with additional lawsuits - both current and future.
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
Sharereactor lost in court and is back and looking pretty good...I'm a long time scene member from all those old ed2k sites...I was a mod at the one you mentioned above and Adi I don't think wanted to run the site anymore and hence the shutdown. In some countries Usenet is legal and download from Usenet is legal even if it's copyrighted work, because if you aren't sharing it and it's only for personal use they don't care...and no I don't remember the country it's in one of the news thread I posted but FTD is hosted there. Also, you can shutdown a tracker, but you can' shutdown Usenet for one simple reason, common carrier law.
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
In the Sharereactor bust, the police did not seize the domain name, as is standard policy these days. But Sharereactor was not really a bust in the usual sense, because Simon Moon/Christian Reisen had an ongoing 'relationship' with the police for months before a judge ordered the servers seized at a court hearing - supposedly after Simon admitted that he was making a lot of money from ShareReactor. So it was not a true police raid in the usual sense.
These days the copyright orgs work hand-in-hand with the police (often across several countries simultaneously) and will seize the server, arrest the admin(s), and hijack the site's domain name at the same time.
Simon Moon probably could have immediately put ShareReactor back online (like the Pirate Bay did) from a backup since he never lost the domain name. But since the police let him keep his other servers (unlike TPB) he probably didn't want to push his luck, I'm sure. I don't remember exactly what the situation was with ShareConnector. It seemed that after Shareconnector was taken down, the attention shifted to torrent sites, and the remaining ed2k sites stayed out of the crosshairs.
Here in the USA it's not uncommon for the police to use SWAT teams to serve arrest warrants for non-violent crimes (typically drug charges) - and send them busting down the door in the middle of the night - but it seems that tactic has not caught on in the rest of the world yet.
I remember that in the early ed2k years, there were only a few people who were releasing the majority of files on index sites, and no one was ever busted, to my knowledge. Usenet might be much the same. At least Usenet can be a lot safer, since anyone can post NZBs without being the original uploader.
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
Ehh whats wrong with a xml document (NZB) or a bunch of numbers (Verified numbers)?
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
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iLOVENZB
Ehh whats wrong with a xml document (NZB) or a bunch of numbers (Verified numbers)?
.nzb files are just like .torrent files to me...
except that with that nzb u don't need to upload shit
but i don't see what's wrong with both neither.
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
its a warez site, no doubt about it.
But i dont think that they should be legally responsible or persecutable (or whatever the word is).
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
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Gruelius
its a warez site, no doubt about it.
But i dont think that they should be legally responsible or persecutable (or whatever the word is).
Isn't it good to see that someone with so much experience of such things can give us the benefit of their wisdom. :dabs:
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
I have been here for a long time and never gotten into trouble for it, so I would say it safe.
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
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Originally Posted by
Gruelius
its a warez site, no doubt about it.
But i dont think that they should be legally responsible or persecutable (or whatever the word is).
You obviously have a skewed definition of "warez".
"Warez" generally refers to releases of copyrighted materials in an illegal manner or in some way in violation of that softwares copyright intentions.
How could you possibly consider this site a warez site when we do not host anything or release anything at all for download? We don't even allow links to warez...
Re: is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
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Skiz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gruelius
its a warez site, no doubt about it.
But i dont think that they should be legally responsible or persecutable (or whatever the word is).
You obviously have a skewed definition of "warez".
"Warez" generally refers to releases of copyrighted materials in an illegal manner or in some way in violation of that softwares copyright intentions.
How could you possibly consider this site a warez site when we do not host anything or release anything at all for download? We don't even allow
links to warez...
I'd class him as an idiot.
No doubts about it.
