Is Kazaa Dying?

One thing that's been completely ignored is that firewalled/router users are screwed by design on Kazaa. As more and more broadband users get routers to have multiple computers connected to the internet at once, fewer and fewer of those will be able to use Kazaa (or KL++) to their full extent.

If you are one of the firewalled/router users, you desperately need to get KaNAT, use port-forwarding at the router level, and unfirewall Kazaa. Otherwise, the only people you can download and upload to are non-firewalled users which don't have a router -- which in other words means mostly 56k users!

Leeching is incredibly bad now on Kazaa. Out of the last 20 or so people who've downloaded from me, only about 3 were visibly sharing files (although some of the 20 were no doubt using KL++'s privacy patch.)

The lack of partial file sharing makes Kazaa very poor for sharing big files.

The lack of file integrity checking means even a 1-byte error in sending of a 600+ MB movie means that particular copy (probably) cannot be used as another source for that movie. And as files get copied many times, the levels of corruption increase.

Kazaa's network was doomed from the start. It took the Gnutella network ideas -- made it proprietary -- and stagnated. While even the Gnutella network has p2p programs on it now that support partial file sharing, hash checking, automated sharing of additional source lists for downloads (called alt locs), and UltraPeers/supernodes that now rival the size of the supernodes on the fasttrack network.

Kazaa will only die if we let it, there needs to be a new version that wont allow leeching maybe a credit system where you get credits from people uploading from you, you can then use them to download off people that way everyones going to be sharing files that people want in order to get credits.

the main problem if possible at all would be to make the older versions of kazaa not work on the updated net work.

When I started this thread the majority of ppl said " ftnetwork/kazaa will not die", but as the thread has carried on I have noticed that a lot of ppl share my opinion that leeching is killing the network, along with the obvious fake files and the RIAA

The truth that SHARMAN do not give a crap has been posted by a number of ppl and moderators

Therefore I think it inevitable that ftnetwork will die sooner rather than later, ppl do not care enough that we have a good sharing community with the majority of files on tap, instead stupidity reigns in the form of leeching and fake files, ppl even post happily saying that they leech?!?!?

Do they not realise that they are the ones killing the network and will be the fist ones complaining of slow downloads or that they cannot d/l a certain file/game/***

Is there any chance that the new version of KL+++ will include anti-leech measures? I think not, but we can hope!

patience may take practice, but stupidity and greed annoys all

I think that all that can be said on this subject has probably been said

If anyone has anything to add then go ahead

If not let this thread be closed

What the hell is going on with kazaa lite? It was working fine, and still does if I want to download porn or music, but now all of a sudden movie files won't download faster than 1 or 2 kbps, and I have a T-1 connection. I've also noticed that in the preferences I have it set lower for transfer rate to other users, and it keeps defaulting back to unlimited when I restart the program. What the hell is up with that?

I understand what you are trying to determain Freakie.


I live in Nevada and am a frequent user of K-L. I am thankful that I have not experienced the same challenges as you have with Kazaa++ recently.

Recently, I have been able D/L 50+ audio filesat one time. If I just go smoke or something and leave Kazaa to be after a search those 50+ mp3. files in 20-25 minutes on a 450mhz Pentium II computer carrying a 150kbs/sec. cable connection I will just die and hga
Actually the longer I use K-L the more I D/L, then the more I share those downloads, as uploads, the faster I d



ownload, and the faster I download means that you download faster and so on. A simple process that pertains to all of us users

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Originally posted by nukemdomis@6 September 2003 - 03:47
I understand what you are trying to determain Freakie.


I live in Nevada and am a frequent user of K-L. I am thankful that I have not experienced the same challenges as you have with Kazaa++ recently.

Recently, I have been able D/L 50+ audio filesat one time. If I just go smoke or something and leave Kazaa to be after a search those 50+ mp3. files in 20-25 minutes on a 450mhz Pentium II computer carrying a 150kbs/sec. cable connection I will just die and hga
Actually the longer I use K-L the more I D/L, then the more I share those downloads, as uploads, the faster I d



ownload, and the faster I download means that you download faster and so on. A simple process that pertains to all of us users

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Yes I do agree with you about the childish behavior that that SOME of the users in here replie to erbehaivor by some of the users in here.

It's seems pretty popular around the 1000-2500 PSI

It just comes down to the speed on Kazaa really. A year ago I was getting Music Videos at ove 100kbps. Now I get 1 and maybe 10+ if I am getting LUCKY!

Is Kazaa dying?
In a practical sense, yes. The combined efforts of the RIAA and other "questionable" private agencies have bullied enough people into removing shared files of questionable legality. They've also forced the major ISPs of the US to give into their demands.
Also, people are becoming turned off by KMDs lack of support for their users, a sort of "don't give a damn" attitude that is somewhat justified, at least to the extent that up to now, they've been able to produce an incredibly crappy program and still draw millions of users.
The last straw came, in my opinion, when Kazaa released 2.5, the much-heralded "remix" of the Kazaa GUI that included multiple search tabs, a feature that turned out to be a farce.
And also, there is another thing to consider. If Kazaa Media Desktop cannot gain enough income to support Sharman Networks, and Kazaa Plus falls through, they may have to close up shop, leaving Kazaa Lite in the dust. Although Kazaa Lite has been improved tremendously, it still relies on KMD for connectivity to the decentralized network. Once Sharman decides to close that network, FastTrack will be truly dead.

Another problem which may be slowing the WHOLE network down as much or more than ALL the leeches and RIAA/MPAA/BSA's efforts COMBINED is the ever-growing number of spreading trojans and viruses. Once these have infected a computer, their effective upload rate (of GOOD files) to other users quickly drops to nil... and yet another user is effectively converted into a leech.

One of the biggest Kazaa viruses makes a lot of fake files for game patches, cracks, serials, lots of small helper programs, and even spoofs Kazaa versions (v2.5 anyhow) as well as other p2p programs. BearShare 5.1.1.exe is the 'keyword' I use to search for it, and I often find 100's of people sharing it even after searching for less than 2 minutes.