Ah, well, it looks like the trackers are down too.
Damn, I only had a few hundred meg to go. :(
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Ah, well, it looks like the trackers are down too.
Damn, I only had a few hundred meg to go. :(
if the same file is shared on another site you can use that torrent to continue your download.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx
I know, but I haven't found it so far (at least, not the same info hash or even anything like the same included files).Quote:
Originally Posted by {I}{K}{E}
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Originally Posted by Hanz™
Not in the eyes of the law they don't. If someone was taken to court and managed to prove that the MPAA/RIAA along with there ISP had broke the privacy act then all the data they gained would be thrown out, leaving them with not a very good case.
That's not the one that Bill Clinton supposedly signed and which doesn't actually exist is it? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
Or is there another real act which protects our privacy?
LokiTorrent owner to pay $1-million
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The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) representing Hollywood's major film studio has won a very important case against movie pirates. They have brought down LokiTorrent.com.
LokiTorrent, which was owned by Edward Webber, directed people to downloadable copies of copyrighted movies. Webber is finned $1-million in a judgment issued by a Dallas court. An MPAA notice has replaced the home page of the site.
The court has also ordered the site owners to handover the records such as IP addresses of those who downloaded movies through the site. The records will help investigators to pinpoint thousands of people who downloaded unauthorized copies of movies, TV programme etc.
John G. Malcolm, head of the MPAA's anti-piracy efforts said, "It will have a lot of records as to who these people are and what they provided, and that information will be of great interest to our members. The MPAA would turn over information to prosecutors in appropriate cases."
The site Lokitorrent.com was serving as a tracker that allows people who want to download files to connect with those who have them and want to swap them.
The site works on software like BitTorrent. BitTorrent is a simple protocol designed for transferring files. It is peer-to-peer in nature where users connect to each other directly to send and receive portions of the file. It is the tracker, like LokiTorrent.com, which coordinates the action of all such peers. The tracker only manages connections, it does not have any knowledge of the contents of the files being distributed, and therefore a large number of users can be supported with relatively limited tracker bandwidth.
The key philosophy of BitTorrent is that users should upload (transmit outbound) at the same time they are downloading (receiving inbound.) In this manner, network bandwidth is utilized as efficiently as possible.
Although the file sharing network operators claim that they don’t have any idea or control on what is being transferred on their network, movie makers feel otherwise. After all if your site boasts to be one that fastest downloads and keeps a track of what is available where, then you cant pretend to be an innocent bystander.
Source - SlyckQuote:
“By Court Order [Edward Webber, former LokiTorrent owner] must provide the MPAA with access to and copies of all logs and server data related to his illegal BitTorrent activities, which will provide a roadmap to others who have used LokiTorrent to engage in illegal activities.”
The MPAA’s press release is chilling. Not only has the money donated to the legal defence fund disappeared into a black hole, but all former registered users of LokiTorrent are placed at risk of future lawsuits.
However, registered users will be relieved to hear that very little, if any, useful information will end up in the hands of the MPAA.
“They don't have anything, they have air,” an ex-torrent site owner told Slyck. He chose to remain anonymous. For arguments sake, we will call him Paul.
Paul also ran a Torrent site based on the same scripts and source used by LokiTorrent. They conferred regularly.
Referring to the website logs:
“Those access logs have no value it all. They only display whether you downloaded the .torrent file, not if you actually downloaded the content using that Torrent,” Paul explained to Slyck.
The Torrent file is merely a key; the MPAA can not prove that it was used in any locks.
Paul went on, “We both didn't log [seed and leech] information because first it would allow us to know too much about the people using the network and what they were sharing. 2nd it would require huge resources to keep track of all that. That's the tracker's job.”
At best, the information could be used in conjunction with other research to target “serial uploaders”. Much like the RIAA target those who share more than a set number of music tracks, the MPAA can now target those who have a history of trading Torrent files, although such a system would rely on static IP addresses.
But Paul does not believe that there will be enough information even for this.
“Logs files tend to grow at a rate of 1GB per day on this kind of site. Most site owners … either disable logging or purge the logs every few days. So there's little to no information for them,” he explained. “Perhaps Loki [Webber’s alias] even disabled his logging completely recently because of the large influx of new users.”
LokiTorrent did kept track of which Torrents each user had uploaded, but the information was stored in the database by username, rather than IP address.
The MPAA will find even less information in the logs for the trackers, which were also run by LokiTorrent. Unlike the website, the trackers do know who is uploading and downloading the actual files.
“Me and Loki both used XBTT as our tracker software. For a fact, XBTT is volatile, meaning that if you shut it down the active user list is immediately purged from memory and is NOT stored on disk,” Paul explained.
“The only thing they do know is who uploaded a torrent, but uploading and seeding is completely different. Even then, that information is only available for a few days [at most],” he concluded.
The MPAA would be able to gather more usage statistics and IP addresses by monitoring public trackers themselves. The announcement that they have acquired a roadmap to those behind file sharing appears to be nothing short of a scare tactic.
Paul also had a few words in defense of Webber, who has been accused of selling out those who donated to his legal defense fund, only to settle out of court.
“People should not think he ran with the money because he lost. Victory is not the only outcome of a costly lawsuit,” he said. “The gag order is the weirdest thing, it seems that it's purely there to prevent him from telling the truth.”
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Originally Posted by Emdee
No this is a real act. ISP's are not allowed to see the data we download/upload and are not allowed to give that data away because it could contain sensative infomation such as credit card numbers and other things. Its invasion of privacy.
what are the chances of me getting into trouble for using loki
If the info posted on Slyck is correct, they haven't got a chance of proving anything against anyone. Their main intention is to frighten people which is why there is the big notice on lokitorrent's site, typical bully boy tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by dsa16