Suggestions For FST

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Originally Posted by SnnY

I think (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that the news, and the verifieds are used by relatively few people. And as for the frontpage, that is rather useless, IMO the www.filesharingtalk.com/ url should be pointing at the forum index.

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Actually the portal was intended to also create more traffic which it does now as if you look at the poll thats been placed there this week its one of the most active this forum has had. and it does take a good amount of hits and if nothing else makes FST look all the better. If you look at most any other well populated forums they all have portals now. If you dont have a care for it dont bookmark it but theres NO reason to get rid of it or the work thats been put into it.

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I reckon this whole concept of who is valuable or not is kinda' lopsided, like someone said, cutting and pasting news, or confirming a verified, isn't hard, granted, it does take some time, but then they wouldn't be looking for it if they weren't interested in it themselves in the first place.

IMO (again) someone who solves problems>someone who posts news.

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Were not here to say who is better or not and once again this NOT what the intention of this is. Its a simple thanks and a couple of light hearted features along with some to make the board better also but you feel the need to make something ugly of it.

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And the thing is, it's hard to judge if someone is contributing or not

How can YOU possibly judge who is useful, and who is not?

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I dont see why that so hard as it would actually seem obvious on most counts. Besides everyone is welcome to be involved in those decisions although if you find it that difficult you wouldnt be required to participate.

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what about running the risk of alienating someone like him who does care, in favour of some total arse who happens to spend a lot of time on fasttrack, or wherever

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This may be your best point so far. I would hope that those they feel should that dont wouldnt take it that hard perhaps. It could be easily considered to not include those that are of assistants I guess and just keep this to Content Providers although I would think its a pleasant way of saying thanks and cant imagine someone else being in such a fluster that he didnt get some modest addons that they would leave.

I think maybe you shouldnt take those to possibly being so petty. I think that those who assist others do so because they like to and its doubtful that a member of that type would be the same type to take such an unnecessary offense to this. On the flip side I do however think it may encourage some n00bs and regulars to participate more in the areas that have been mentioned and may be quite a positive for the forum since thats all this is attempting to do...

:blink: that poll is posted in the BT section for all i know there's where people found it the frontpage is where you end up if you only type the url keep it by all means but make a link called "portal" or something where you put the news and that and let the forum index be the frontpage and I have to say that all my points worth considering cos people do care i mean why did you suggest it in the first place otherwise and it isn't that easy to say that this or that bloke is an asset and that another bloke isnt cos you cant measure what a person does to improve how people feel about the place and i dont understand why thats so hard to understand im not determined to make something ugly out of it but when you start to distinguish between people on such dubious grounds then youll get this kind of feedback besides the way you rate people by saying that some contribute more and some dont which you inevitably do if you implement this youll make some feel as if they arent as good as the ones you put in the other usergroup and whats the point of changing something when no one has asked for it anyway?


/communicating with the natives.

I dont think theres any intention of switching the portal and the front page although perhaps adding a link to the portal from the forum is a decent though I had been thinking as well.

As for the rest I dont see any point in debating this further as the point that if only a few bicker regarding not getting something they feel they should then perhaps its not worth the ill feelings it may create so it will be changed to Content Providers which will be for those posting News Verified or NZB regularly. This will be a simple formula so there is no confusion. I hope that is more to your likings...

So does Bawa get his stripes, or what.

The way I see it, what got me to join in the first place was that the place was a kind of anarchy, at the temp forum we were all the same. There were no groups or specific hangouts for different people, instead we were all lumped together, even the mod I most came into contact with (balamm) was really no "better" than the rest of us.

It was all a mess, but no matter who you were, you could have your say and be listened to, and it really didn't feel, to me, as if one single individual could have an opinion that on its own would immediately be percieved as better than someone else's.

By labeling people in any which way, we move away from the anarchy, and the equality that made me stay around, so I can honestly say that for people like me, everything that makes us less equal makes the forum less attractive.

I don't care for privilieges (or authority for that matter) or dividing people into different classes, so I'd rather have less of it, than a bigger pm-box (I prolly wouldn't notice the rest) just 'cos I might be doing something you think is good.

That's why I don't care for stars (adblocked), or postcounts, or special fancy-pants superduper usergroups. It just makes it harder for someone to join the ranks and feel as if they are on equal footing with the rest of us. Besides, any kind of ranking system, or special privilieges will have some people trying to attain a higher status, sometimes in strange ways.

And it may also mean that those who behave, but don't behave in the way you say is desirable above all other ways, may begin to resent the fact that others, whose "work" they've hardly noticed, gets a higher status, like I've said. I know you don't quite get that, but it's just the way some people are.

Which means more post-whores, more spam, more arguments in here, and so on.

If you are determined to make changes, why not make it better for everybody, by giving all of us slightly bigger pm-boxes after making a set amount of posts, or whatever?

The good thing about the interweb is the fact that it gives us a sense of more equality than anywhere else, that's something that should be cherished.


If not, then I really think bawa should be the first member of your group. I'd enjoy that.

I've got an idea.

Leave it alone. The people that contribute ALREADY do it because they like to do it. :blink:

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Originally Posted by SnnY

If you are determined to make changes, why not make it better for everybody, by giving all of us slightly bigger pm-boxes after making a set amount of posts, or whatever?

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So then I guess your saying someone who makes oodles of posts should get a bigger pm box then rather than Content Providers. Thats interesting thought although it may confict with all that which youve mentioned about anarchy and all that I dont seem to understand. I just cant imagine some starts not making someone equal and that you have the need to block them in the name of anarchy as it just sounds a tad far fetched or perhaps you know more than me.

Seriously though this is just some light hearted features so if you could please not take it to seriously. Its been relabled and toned down already so that nobody would have ill feelings which Ive accepted as a possibility and relize that its maybe not a good thought then or are you still not satisfied. Am I to understand that you now find that others having a lager pm box is upsetting even though you think 5k posters or the like should have them. Seems somehow I find that confusing.

Im also a tad confused with all the comments about athority figures and find them slightly misplaced and and hope you dont have some sort of need to place me in that sort of role so Im set to be the one that represents all your against somehow. I still consider myself a member primarily and whatever I or any of the Team does is just simply to hopefully make FST a better place for us all.

At this stage the only purpose of this is just to encourage n00bs and members to become more active in areas that are drawing most of our new traffic which without there will be not much of anything other than a dozen regulars chatiing about ragging about how slow this place is and that its a waste of time. If you think back a little maybe youde remember or perhaps you would prefer it that way although I doubt it...

Personally I think that you should stick to giving people who contribute a special member title but scrap the idea of giving them bigger PM boxes and ability to make polls anywhere. Neither is really needed, people can delete old PM's and ask mods to move polls if they think it's better placed elsewhere.

Just a little bit of recognition with member titles is fine, and obviously abilities like posting news unmoderated if that's what they are contributing to the forum.

Ive made some changes to the original post above so that hopefully now it will be a happy middle ground for all...

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I've got an idea.

Leave it alone. The people that contribute ALREADY do it because they like to do it. :blink:

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Well said, who gives a rat's ass about bigger pm boxes . Some members with 50 posts contribute as much as some with a 1000. Some like the lounge others software or hardware world. No biggie, I get my thanks with helping and sharing ,thats how this forum came about ............... :)