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Actually Mohamed said to slay those who were rejecting faith and were not rejecting because they had any confusion with regards to it, rather they were rejecting out of mere arrogance and pride,
He commanded Muslims to slay down those 'infidels' from amongst the polytheists.
The Jews and Christians, on the other hand, because they belonged to monotheistic faith, were to be fought against until they became politically subservient to Muslims.
NO he didn't .
Mohamed when he started the infidels on mecca didn't accept him or his new religion . so they fight him , he fight back . he won .
he forgave all the infidels on mecca including the ones the torture him and other Muslims.
when Islam started to prosper , Jews didn't like it b'cuz they are the people of the first holy book they started making conspiracies"there are long stories i can provide if you like" and making armies to fight Mohamed !
they have some battles and Mohamed won .
true Muslims don't start wars , they fight back when they attacked.
after that people of the book Jews and Christians were living in peace in the Saudi Arabia region at that time and no one harm them .
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Originally Posted by
Dubstepper
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Originally Posted by
S3v3N
well that's wrong they don't do that ...
i told you most English movies and topics now a days aim to give the wrong idea about Islam and i really can't blame them with all those extremist fascist Muslims that are giving the wrong idea about Islam to the whole world !
i know fascism are not the Muslim problem alone there are extremist in every religion !
Why are all these terrorists and people causing war, all Muslim though? Surely that tells you something, why do you see no Buddha's, or Sikhs, Rastas, all starting terror like this, surely that tells you something.
Can I buy crack from you Mr. Racist?
I know everyone's got an opinion and all......but still man, that's just low.
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Originally Posted by
cpt_azad
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Originally Posted by
Dubstepper
Why are all these terrorists and people causing war, all Muslim though? Surely that tells you something, why do you see no Buddha's, or Sikhs, Rastas, all starting terror like this, surely that tells you something.
Can I buy crack from you Mr. Racist?
I know everyone's got an opinion and all......but still man, that's just low.
A bit narrow minded, but tough to refute as well. Muslims have a bad image in the Western world as that's who we see continually committing terrorist acts.
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That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.
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Originally Posted by
Dubstepper
Ok, everyone...
Just check out FF, you may know about it already...
http://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htm
This is a good source for info,
a lot of Ex-Muslims doing articles about the religion and talking the unbiased truth.
Does it help to be an Ex-Muslim to be able to tell the unbiased truth?
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Originally Posted by
ilw
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
For religion to deny science is ludicrous.
what about science denying religion
That's perfectly acceptable.
Religion requires faith, science abhors it.
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Originally Posted by
moslem01
u have the right to say what u want but in my faith which my god says in soraa el tawba : to kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god .
Peaceful as fuck like.
They love Jesus more than Christians don't you know. His message was a wee bit different from that one.
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Originally Posted by
Skizo
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Originally Posted by
cpt_azad
Can I buy crack from you Mr. Racist?
I know everyone's got an opinion and all......but still man, that's just low.
A bit narrow minded, but tough to refute as well. Muslims have a bad image in the Western world as that's who we see continually committing terrorist acts.
Not that anyone saying that sort of thing automatically translates to racism, seeing as religion doesn't have much to do with "race". Edit: And it's not even particularily narrow minded.
And it's not that mental a statement either.
Suicide bombers tend to be religious people, as it kind of helps "knowing" that you'll be rewarded for it. And when you have radical religious leaders condoning it, that helps too. And you've got them lovely blokes declaring jihads and whatnot, too.
That just happens to be a bit more common in islamic nations, right now.
EDit:
Not that there aren't other countries declaring war back and forth and invading stuff, like what the US does, but their excuses tend to have to do with other stuff than religion.
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I dunno why saucepan thought it was necessary to make a second thread about it, though.
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Originally Posted by
IdolEyes787
That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.
yeah , i completely agreed to u mate . it is the case,
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by
moslem01
u have the right to say what u want but in my faith which my god says in soraa el tawba : to kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god .
Peaceful as fuck like.
Racist.
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You don't have to be a zealot to want to sacrifice your life.
In any war-like scenario, given the pretext of a religious agenda, stupid people will die for that.
Where I'm from, the same pretext exists and is perpetuated but religion isn't the issue.
Leibensraum is the issue. People in my country don't despise each other because of a proclamation nailed to church door or an endorsement of rubber johnnys or a contention of the Immaculate Conception. They hate each other because we've blown each other to buggery over a conflicting national identity.
Fucking hun cunts.
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u have the right to say what u want but in my faith which my god says in soraa el tawba : to kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god .
That's not what the verse mean :(
the verse talk about the time of war and about pagans who worship stars and statues not about people of the book.
it says "kofar" which means people who deny holy books and it talks about time of war cause in the end of this verse it says "till the war ends"
so it talks about time of war not in all times.
add to that in many verses of quran allah ordered us to treat people kindly
"لايناهكم الله عن الذين لم يقاتلوكم فى الدين ان تبروهم"
Allah don't prohibit you to be just and kind to the ones who don't fight you in fact Allah orders you to be kind to them cause he likes his believers to be kind and just.
that's what quran says.
more to add
"you will find that Christians are more kind to you cause there are among them priests and monks whose their eyes weeps when they listen to the words of Allah and who a have sensitive hearts and kind souls"
this is another verse in quran
so saying that we order to kill the non believers is a total lie. we are ordered to tell themm about islam and to let them choose the right thing for them.
the reason we faught Romans and Persians that they killed the messengers who sent to them asking to enter their territory for preaching.
Even in the war prophet mohammed ordered us not to kill the priests not to take churchs and turn them to mosques not to force people to enter islam.
it all written in the books of islam even the radicals know that.
in the quran
Allah says" if a pagan-not even a man from the people of the book-ask for your help you must help him and stand by him till he is safe and then tell him about islam and leave him in peace"
any one woh doesn't go by quran or listen to prophet mohammed teachings is just a radical muslim and actually we can't consider him muslim.
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You see how people may misconstrue what your religion teaches mate. If blokes say / post stuff about killing non-believers.
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But is he really a Muslim one is forced to ask oneself.
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Originally Posted by
IdolEyes787
That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.
Rubbish, indeed.
Islam as a religion is simply a banner under which certain groups, who strive to gain politically or economically, have sought to rally support. The underlying message of Islam is clear and is likely a familiar one to most westerners, as it most likely owes its roots to Judaism and Christianity. the religion itself has never condoned the present acts of terrorism as the religion is only being used to rally support for the causes of other groups. Often passages are taken out of context to justify these acts much like the witch burnings have been justified by poorly translated passages from the bible in an attempt to further subjugate women and stamp out other competing beliefs. So, one can't really state that Muslims are to blame. The fact that these terrorists are Muslim is simply circumstance, these acts of terrorism at its roots are not motivated by religion, but by politics. They are simply pawns in a politically motivated struggle that has been going on for centuries.
The current acts of terrorism can be directly attributed to western meddling in middle eastern affairs, motivated by western interests in the region. But, this isn't anything new. The west has a long history of imposing its will on other nations in its efforts to secure its own interests in natural resources. So, it was bound to happen that a nation would rise up against them. And, for impoverished countries that are outgunned, terrorism is a natural choice as a method of warfare...it has proven highly effective so far. I mean look at the reaction of 9/11, most people weren't even aware of the terrorism taking place abroad. Some have called it cowardly, but how else does David stand up to Goliath?
Anyway, the point i was trying to get across...the Muslim religion is not to blame for terrorism, politics is the true culprit. there's nothing inherently wrong with the religion and it has its fair share of ignorant followers as do all religions...some of which are apperently in this thread.
And to the OP's comment about PML's sigs professing their faith, professing your hatred of something is far from the same as stating that you love something. I mean, why would anyone want to illicit the inevitably negative reactions to such a sig. And to suggest that they should be removed, what if I objected to TPB because it tracks child porn? would it be right for me to suggest that this site disallow any mention of it in sigs? Unlikely. To each their own, live and let live, and so on.
Sorry for the long post to those that bother to read it.
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See.
But we still all agree that George Bush is the devil,right?
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Originally Posted by
emperorIX
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Originally Posted by
IdolEyes787
That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.
Rubbish, indeed.
Islam as a religion is simply a banner under which certain groups, who strive to gain politically or economically, have sought to rally support. The underlying message of Islam is clear and is likely a familiar one to most westerners, as it most likely owes its roots to Judaism and Christianity. the religion itself has never condoned the present acts of terrorism as the religion is only being used to rally support for the causes of other groups. Often passages are taken out of context to justify these acts much like the witch burnings have been justified by poorly translated passages from the bible in an attempt to further subjugate women and stamp out other competing beliefs. So, one can't really state that Muslims are to blame. The fact that these terrorists are Muslim is simply circumstance, these acts of terrorism at its roots are not motivated by religion, but by politics. They are simply pawns in a politically motivated struggle that has been going on for centuries.
The current acts of terrorism can be directly attributed to western meddling in middle eastern affairs, motivated by western interests in the region. But, this isn't anything new. The west has a long history of imposing its will on other nations in its efforts to secure its own interests in natural resources. So, it was bound to happen that a nation would rise up against them. And, for impoverished countries that are outgunned, terrorism is a natural choice as a method of warfare...it has proven highly effective so far. I mean look at the reaction of 9/11, most people weren't even aware of the terrorism taking place abroad. Some have called it cowardly, but how else does David stand up to Goliath?
Anyway, the point i was trying to get across...the Muslim religion is not to blame for terrorism, politics is the true culprit. there's nothing inherently wrong with the religion and it has its fair share of ignorant followers as do all religions...some of which are apperently in this thread.
And to the OP's comment about PML's sigs professing their faith, professing your hatred of something is far from the same as stating that you love something. I mean, why would anyone want to illicit the inevitably negative reactions to such a sig. And to suggest that they should be removed, what if I objected to TPB because it tracks child porn? would it be right for me to suggest that this site disallow any mention of it in sigs? Unlikely. To each their own, live and let live, and so on.
Sorry for the long post to those that bother to read it.
Spot on post.
Do continue.
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Originally Posted by
emperorIX
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Originally Posted by
IdolEyes787
That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.
Rubbish, indeed.
Islam as a religion is simply a banner under which certain groups, who strive to gain politically or economically, have sought to rally support. The underlying message of Islam is clear and is likely a familiar one to most westerners, as it most likely owes its roots to Judaism and Christianity. the religion itself has never condoned the present acts of terrorism as the religion is only being used to rally support for the causes of other groups. Often passages are taken out of context to justify these acts much like the witch burnings have been justified by poorly translated passages from the bible in an attempt to further subjugate women and stamp out other competing beliefs. So, one can't really state that Muslims are to blame. The fact that these terrorists are Muslim is simply circumstance, these acts of terrorism at its roots are not motivated by religion, but by politics. They are simply pawns in a politically motivated struggle that has been going on for centuries.
The current acts of terrorism can be directly attributed to western meddling in middle eastern affairs, motivated by western interests in the region. But, this isn't anything new. The west has a long history of imposing its will on other nations in its efforts to secure its own interests in natural resources. So, it was bound to happen that a nation would rise up against them. And, for impoverished countries that are outgunned, terrorism is a natural choice as a method of warfare...it has proven highly effective so far. I mean look at the reaction of 9/11, most people weren't even aware of the terrorism taking place abroad. Some have called it cowardly, but how else does David stand up to Goliath?
Anyway, the point i was trying to get across...the Muslim religion is not to blame for terrorism, politics is the true culprit. there's nothing inherently wrong with the religion and it has its fair share of ignorant followers as do all religions...some of which are apperently in this thread.
And to the OP's comment about PML's sigs professing their faith, professing your hatred of something is far from the same as stating that you love something. I mean, why would anyone want to illicit the inevitably negative reactions to such a sig. And to suggest that they should be removed, what if I objected to TPB because it tracks child porn? would it be right for me to suggest that this site disallow any mention of it in sigs? Unlikely. To each their own, live and let live, and so on.
Sorry for the long post to those that bother to read it.
I enjoyed reading that. True story.
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
But is he really a Muslim one is forced to ask oneself.
yes.we all have to question our faith
i was born muslim but after that i choose islam cause i believed it's the right way.
some radicals though don't agree to that.they are twisting some verses to stop people from thinking.
but Allah asks us to read and to think and observe and choose.
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
You see how people may misconstrue what your religion teaches mate. If blokes say / post stuff about killing non-believers.
i don't get what you mean?
may you explain.sorry
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Originally Posted by
SAM
yes.we all have to question our faith
i was born muslim but after that i choose islam cause i believed it's the right way.
some radicals though don't agree to that.they are twisting some verses to stop people from thinking.
but Allah asks us to read and to think and observe and choose.
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
You see how people may misconstrue what your religion teaches mate. If blokes say / post stuff about killing non-believers.
i don't get what you mean?
may you explain.sorry
With regard to the person who made the post which portrayed that the Muslim faith teaches that people who do not believe in God should be murdered.
Is he really a Muslim.
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With regard to the person who made the post which portrayed that the Muslim faith teaches that people who do not believe in God should be murdered.
Is he really a Muslim.
he is a Muslim by name , he doesn't know anything about Islam .
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well
this is a tricky question :)
But I'll be honest.
as long as he is worship Allah and doing the practice of Islam he is a Muslim but not a believer.
what's the difference here is to be a muslim all you need is to say you believe in Allah and in mohammed as his prophet but to be a believer is to have this faith in your heart to act according to Islam to do everything out of love.
Islam is about high morals and to treat people kind as long as they don't fight you.
about the member you are mentioned i think he meant no harm he just didn't understand the verse.
but to be honest.any one thinks that Islam asked us to kill non believers he has something wrong in his faith or he is misguided.
more to add,not all Muslims read quran or have good knowledge about Islam.some of them and that's really sad are misguided by some false media shows.
but trust me when i tell you that we all as Muslims in majority are just human beings who wants to live in peace.
but.we feel the injustice.we feel that people targeting our faith and our life.
i'll be more honest and tell you what's going on in the middle east.
we always hear American administration talks about freedom and democracy yet they never helps us to have them.
they are leaving those Arabian regimes-that killing many people daily and torture and imprison thousands of people- govern us.they also support them like they do with Saudi Arabia.
and why?
because of oil and because they are doing what they ordered to do?
people hate this policy that has two faces.
American administration makes a monster out of Islam like it's the only danger out there and it went into two wars saying they are for freedom and against terrorism but till this moment they haven't caught Ben laden,they haven't stopped terrorists.
and they never will.the reason of terrorism is poverty and injustice.
we don't believe America and we don't think it has good intentions cause they are killing innocent people in Iraq for no reason.
Before the invasion we never saw any terrorist in Iraq.now every town there are thousands and no one want USA to leave.
the radicals say it's an opportunity to kill as many as they can from The Americans.
Israel likes it that way cause USA fighting its war.
Arabian regimes likes too cause as long as USA has problems in Iraq she will never give a dam about democracy in Arabian region.
so every one benefits from the war except the Arabian people and the Americans.
only the people who suffered.Arabians suffers from injustice and the daily killings and the Americans see every day their sons killed and their economy collapses in order to what?
in order to fight a ghost and to chase a mirage.
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he is a Muslim by name , he doesn't know anything about Islam .
WHY I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT?
it's the right and the easiest way to describe it :)
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See it just strikes me that there's a fake Christian in one thread posting pish about Christianity. Posting stuff that real Christians are all like, no way.
Then a "Muslim" appears doing the same about that faith.
Just saying like.
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Re: "Prophet Mohammed Lovers"
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
See it just strikes me that there's a fake Christian in one thread posting pish about Christianity. Posting stuff that real Christians are all like, no way.
Then a "Muslim" appears doing the same about that faith.
Just saying like.
Mate, it's the internets, like.
Those waylaid of reason will always seek to convert on such a powerful medium. Their dogma dictates as such.
It is a testament to reason that their nativity becomes our Whipping Boy.
What else is there to do except disagree.
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Originally Posted by
chalice
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
See it just strikes me that there's a fake Christian in one thread posting pish about Christianity. Posting stuff that real Christians are all like, no way.
Then a "Muslim" appears doing the same about that faith.
Just saying like.
Mate, it's the internets, like.
Those waylaid of reason will always seek to convert on such a powerful medium. Their dogma dictates as such.
It is a testament to reason that their nativity becomes our Whipping Boy.
What else is there to do except disagree.
We could get Tesco to tell us who they are, hunt them down like the dogs they are and kick fuck out of them.
You know it makes sence.
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by
chalice
Mate, it's the internets, like.
Those waylaid of reason will always seek to convert on such a powerful medium. Their dogma dictates as such.
It is a testament to reason that their nativity becomes our Whipping Boy.
What else is there to do except disagree.
We could get Tesco to tell us who they are, hunt them down like the dogs they are and kick fuck out of them.
You know it makes sence.
Sounds like a motherfucking plan, Stan.
Tesco, who is them mawtherfawkers???!!11
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Some say "tesco"? :unsure:
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Maybes it's 'cos I'm stoned, but I'm totally getting the correlation between Silent Bob and my Swamp Thing avatar.
If it was intentional, then JP, I salute you.
If not, then my imagination > the internets.
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Originally Posted by
chalice
Maybes it's 'cos I'm stoned, but I'm totally getting the correlation between Silent Bob and my Swamp Thing avatar.
If it was intentional, then JP, I salute you.
If not, then my imagination > the internets.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2e22ets.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/10oogpc.jpg
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Not one word will ever help anyone understand " God ". For that other senses are required. Take a peach, a ripe one. Take a bite and then explain in words the flavour.
What is the problem here. In this time when world religions appear to polarise, try to remember that we are talking about is the same power. As time changes and needs change so too the creative forces change, just like a snake that changes its skin. What once were good gods with the changing of the times, they become discarded and even called bad. This will happen to all gods with a name here on Earth.
Take the concept of the creator; Jehovah, Allah, El Vairocna Ishvara Quetzalcoatl Vishnu Shiva..there is no end, it would appear.
The god(s) that created this Earth, is not The God of which we all are a part of; they too are a part of God. To understand our predicament we are all a part of God, on the inside, so to speak. The gods that created this Earth were hard-working and industrious " gods," that was also their function. It would be, and is wrong to worship them. There is a problem here. To understand this problem; one has to understand that there are other advanced intelligent life forms sharing this planet with us. Because of their size, it's more or less impossible to see them. They are colossal. Also at this moment they are "sleeping". This is shortly to change as it does for every living being that sleeps, when the Sun rises they wake up! The Sun that will be rising for them is blue in colour and will returning in only a few years. When it returns, for those sleeping "creative Forces" it will be time to wake up, just as we do as our sun rises. This time is accurately predicted by for example the Tibetans and also the Maya and other older religions. For us it will be the end of this time cycle and the beginning of the time cycle for the creative forces that some worship as God. These "Gods" are already turning over in their sleep as Gravity waves from the approaching mother star begin, to disturb the centres of our planets and our Sun. All matter will be attracted to them.
Although this is a recurring event, this one is extra special :) That's because this time , the Father is returning too. Happens only every 26,000 years! There is another cycle that also coincide with the ending of this one and that's the (roughly) 8000 year cycle, it's ending too. This means we are in a unique position to view the approach and experience the coming oneness. Call it Trinity, if you like. After the Mother and Father depart ( they are in orbit around our Sun, somewhat elongated...) Things will be slightly different and many years will have passed before life on the surface is possible again. There is more to tell, but for now it's better to allow this truth to sink in. There are some places to go for safety during the passage, for you and your family and friends. You will find these places mentioned somewhere in my " Truth" thread. Don't take a lot with you when you leave; just enough to pay the ferryman. :)
See you there..:)
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Originally Posted by
chalice
Maybes it's 'cos I'm stoned, but I'm totally getting the correlation between Silent Bob and my Swamp Thing avatar.
If it was intentional, then JP, I salute you.
If not, then my imagination > the internets.
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7377/chavisvk2.jpg
:unsure:
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Re: "Prophet Mohammed Lovers"
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Originally Posted by
thewizeard
Not one word will ever help anyone understand " God ". For that other senses are required. Take a peach, a ripe one. Take a bite and then explain in words the flavour.
What is the problem here. In this time when world religions appear to polarise, try to remember that we are talking about is the same power. As time changes and needs change so too the creative forces change, just like a snake that changes its skin. What once were good gods with the changing of the times, they become discarded and even called bad. This will happen to all gods with a name here on Earth.
Take the concept of the creator; Jehovah, Allah, El Vairocna Ishvara Quetzalcoatl Vishnu Shiva..there is no end, it would appear.
The god(s) that created this Earth, is not The God of which we all are a part of; they too are a part of God. To understand our predicament we are all a part of God, on the inside, so to speak. The gods that created this Earth were hard-working and industrious " gods," that was also their function. It would be, and is wrong to worship them. There is a problem here. To understand this problem; one has to understand that there are other advanced intelligent life forms sharing this planet with us. Because of their size, it's more or less impossible to see them. They are colossal. Also at this moment they are "sleeping". This is shortly to change as it does for every living being that sleeps, when the Sun rises they wake up! The Sun that will be rising for them is blue in colour and will returning in only a few years. When it returns, for those sleeping "creative Forces" it will be time to wake up, just as we do as our sun rises. This time is accurately predicted by for example the Tibetans and also the Maya and other older religions. For us it will be the end of this time cycle and the beginning of the time cycle for the creative forces that some worship as God. These "Gods" are already turning over in their sleep as Gravity waves from the approaching mother star begin, to disturb the centres of our planets and our Sun. All matter will be attracted to them.
Although this is a recurring event, this one is extra special :) That's because this time , the Father is returning too. Happens only every 26,000 years! There is another cycle that also coincide with the ending of this one and that's the (roughly) 8000 year cycle, it's ending too. This means we are in a unique position to view the approach and experience the coming oneness. Call it Trinity, if you like. After the Mother and Father depart ( they are in orbit around our Sun, somewhat elongated...) Things will be slightly different and many years will have passed before life on the surface is possible again. There is more to tell, but for now it's better to allow this truth to sink in. There are some places to go for safety during the passage, for you and your family and friends. You will find these places mentioned somewhere in my " Truth" thread. Don't take a lot with you when you leave; just enough to pay the ferryman. :)
See you there..:)
That's cool, 'cos up until now this thread made too much sense.
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Originally Posted by
Proper Bo
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Originally Posted by
chalice
Maybes it's 'cos I'm stoned, but I'm totally getting the correlation between Silent Bob and my Swamp Thing avatar.
If it was intentional, then JP, I salute you.
If not, then my imagination > the internets.
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7377/chavisvk2.jpg
:unsure:
Pure interweb genius. :01:
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Originally Posted by
emperorIX
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Originally Posted by
IdolEyes787
That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.
Rubbish, indeed.
Islam as a religion is simply a banner under which certain groups, who strive to gain politically or economically, have sought to rally support. The underlying message of Islam is clear and is likely a familiar one to most westerners, as it most likely owes its roots to Judaism and Christianity. the religion itself has never condoned the present acts of terrorism as the religion is only being used to rally support for the causes of other groups. Often passages are taken out of context to justify these acts much like the witch burnings have been justified by poorly translated passages from the bible in an attempt to further subjugate women and stamp out other competing beliefs. So, one can't really state that Muslims are to blame. The fact that these terrorists are Muslim is simply circumstance, these acts of terrorism at its roots are not motivated by religion, but by politics. They are simply pawns in a politically motivated struggle that has been going on for centuries.
The current acts of terrorism can be directly attributed to western meddling in middle eastern affairs, motivated by western interests in the region. But, this isn't anything new. The west has a long history of imposing its will on other nations in its efforts to secure its own interests in natural resources. So, it was bound to happen that a nation would rise up against them. And, for impoverished countries that are outgunned, terrorism is a natural choice as a method of warfare...it has proven highly effective so far. I mean look at the reaction of 9/11, most people weren't even aware of the terrorism taking place abroad. Some have called it cowardly, but how else does David stand up to Goliath?
Anyway, the point i was trying to get across...the Muslim religion is not to blame for terrorism, politics is the true culprit. there's nothing inherently wrong with the religion and it has its fair share of ignorant followers as do all religions...some of which are apperently in this thread.
And to the OP's comment about PML's sigs professing their faith, professing your hatred of something is far from the same as stating that you love something. I mean, why would anyone want to illicit the inevitably negative reactions to such a sig. And to suggest that they should be removed, what if I objected to TPB because it tracks child porn? would it be right for me to suggest that this site disallow any mention of it in sigs? Unlikely. To each their own, live and let live, and so on.
Sorry for the long post to those that bother to read it.
That seems a fair shout to me on the socio/economic front and as Sam said there are a lot of internal tensions in Middle Eastern politics regarding some pretty oppresive regimes that are supported by the West. Some of the ones not supported by the West aren't a bundle of laughs either.
I have no objection to people enjoying their religion and having a happy positive sig about it. On the other hand negative imflamatory sigs should get all they deserve regardless of topic.
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Re: "Prophet Mohammed Lovers"
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I am happy to do that and in return I would prefer for you guys to say "I respect your agnosticism" instead of "kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god". It seems a fair trade to me.
i don't say "kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god" ... that's totally wrong .
totally what ???
shame on u , did u read koran ?? read sorra el tawba ( 5 ) and (29)
and tell me what deos it say ?
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Re: "Prophet Mohammed Lovers"
Ahhh & I see our other lounge troll is still merrily babbling away, forcing your views unwillingly on others is such a wonderful way to make friends and influence people :angry:
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S3v3N
i don't say "kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god" ... that's totally wrong .
totally what ???
shame on u , did u read koran ?? read sorra el tawba ( 5 ) and (29)
and tell me what deos it say ?
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Re: "Prophet Mohammed Lovers"
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Biggles
rofl really funny
