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life isnt unfair , its what you make it. and your annoying me like most Welshmen doQuote:
Originally Posted by BoneWmachine
Life is unfair. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 105802
I'm BoneWmachine, you can call me Bone if you wish to.
On the last question I don't have an answer. :whistling
I'm not welsh, I just like the dragon in the flag. :king:Quote:
Originally Posted by 105802life isnt unfair , its what you make it. and your annoying me like most Welshmen doQuote:
Originally Posted by BoneWmachine
Sorry for the offtopic, back ontopic now.
I think the trading section should stay as it is a part of filesharingtalk. :whoosh:
Agree... i don't like emo girls, this doesn't mean I want to get rig of them, like forever :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneWmachine
It seems as though the poll results are:
Yes please get rid of it. 208 65.82%
No it should stay where it is. 108 34.18%
Staff wanted to know what are the members' positions on this matter and the members responded with a clear cut result: an overwhelming majority does not want a trading section on FST.
So the question to the staff is simple: are you going to listen to your members and remove the section?
Yeah,They always do. :)
65.82% for removal the section as opposed to 34.18% against is a very convincing majority. Especially when you take into account all the dupe a/c's that were used to try and alter the vote as well.......
So are staff going to listen to the members this time ?
Yes, this will be interesting to see.
The staff did make the poll after all.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
Just like any other site on the Internet, if you don't like it close the window. This particular site has a section which allows members to exchange invites. There are plenty of sites on the web which will suit your agenda which you can participate on if the mood strikes you.
We also aren't going to change the functionality of the board every time the wind changes direction. If you held this poll 2 years ago it would have been 10:1 in favor of trading.
It was for opinion sake. I can assure you it was never with the intent of "final say-so".Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Martinator
didn't they already say they wouldn't remove it, i mean, sure trading sucks but like some guy said he doesn't like emo girls but he doesn't say we should get rid of them
and i know this contradicts my earlier post but let's say i succumbed to peer pressure :happy: instead of my own thoughts :lol:
huh?...it took me 2 minutes to write this?? Skizo got here first
Well I don't really have a hard and fast agenda and your comments are fair enough , except the liberal sprinking of fairy dust that is to quote : This particular site has a section which allows members to exchange invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoNo.
Just like any other site on the Internet, if you don't like it close the window. This particular site has a section which allows members to exchange invites. There are plenty of sites on the web which will suit your agenda which you can participate on if the mood strikes you.
It was for opinion sake. I can assure you it was never with the intent of "final say-so".Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Martinator
Now if that isn't polishing a turd I don't know what is ! :glag: The mosh pit that is the trade section here is far more than that.
If I have an agenda at all, it would be to those who try to justify the cheating lying and scamming that goes on in your 'section to exchange invites' and I will continue to be vocal about that as long as there are those who try and frame it as something respectable.
As for the trade section, have fun, it truly isn't my problem...........
It's simply calling it what it is. If you want to go into more detail, that's fine; I didn't see the need.
We don't find the section to be a "problem" either. It pretty much runs itself. There is the occasional report for spam or a hostile post but those take mere seconds to fulfill. Cheating and scamming are also rare these days, and I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone attempt to justify them. :huh:
so you gonna delete that section or what ?
I don't think so, everything will remain the same. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swift
no way :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone.W.MachineI don't think so, everything will remain the same. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swift
Lol. Maybe you should allow cheating and scamming and then maybe people would try to justify them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
For instance I'm not gonna justify stealing cause I know that it's against the law. If I start justifying it, people will start thinking that I steal.
Cheating and scamming being rare? I don't know, I don't do it. you do, or what?
What was the point with this thread/poll when you obviously were not going to remove the trade section no matter what the result would be?
Obviously to spark a debate, and get the opinions of members. Just because it won't change, doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss it.
Im not sure whether it would be good if the trade section was deleted, at least with it there is some kind of openess and u can monitor whats going on, if it was taken away it still would not stop trading but just push it more underground.
But like someone said before i dont really care if its here or not, its not like i use it at all anyway so who cares.
Or maybe Detale was trying to show what the majority of the members think about that section to the staff here that can actually make a change?
i don't want debates i want actions !
Just because the majority of the regular posters in the bt section dont like it dont mean the majority of people registered to this site dont like it. Im pretty sure 99% of the people who sign up here just want to use it for the trade or request section.Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkin'
If nothing was going to change, then this thread and poll are meaningless.
I'm sure if the majority was swung in the other direction (for trading) then there would be Mods in here pointing out how they were right in keeping the section but since it is not in that direction you get the "it was never going to change anyway" regardless of the poll answer.
So again the question should be...If nothing was going to change then why poll members about it? Especially if it was already "decided" that no matter the results nothing was going to change.
Fixed that for you. Funny how you overlooked the account trading here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Comments like this are not only moronic but absurd as well. We all want actions, but to simply say it doesn't help either side and only makes you look foolish :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swift
Yes the idea was to get a "finger on the pulse" of the members and see what they wanted from FST. Mabye some people didn't read the first post here:
Pretty straight forward I think.Quote:
I just want to get an idea if the majority of our members think and feel about it.
Well then you should have made the poll different, something like:Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
What do you think about the trade section?
-unnecessary
- it's great, it's why I joined
What I'm triying to say is that you're basically asking in the poll if the sections should be removed.
straight forward would be to actually consider users opinions not to say something and the the opositeQuote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Yep, and?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Martinator
Way off topic, your avatar says gotcha, but the guy in the pic would miss if that is where he is firing you know. It'd go over your head. Just sayin'
What are you on about? What did I "do different"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiftstraight forward would be to actually consider users opinions not to say something and the the opositeQuote:
Originally Posted by Detale
^Oh, why do I even try.... If it's not obvious enough to you what I mean then I can't help you. My native language ain't English, but when I do use it, I like to keep it simple.
I'll change the avatar, sorry.
Edit: Chenged. Hope you like the new usertitle also. :D
nevermind it's no use :D
true :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swift
Wow so a little questioning makes you two run off like schoolgirls?? Guess I thought more of you guys. Don't worry they'll grow back ;)
Am I one of the schoolgirls or are you refering to somebody else? :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
You want me to argue with you? I don't see the point in that, that's all. I'm not offended (the avatar change was meant as a joke).Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Here are the facts from my POV:
- you're a mod, not me - I think you can ban me
- doesn't matter how good my arguments are, the trade section isn't gonna be removed (sure I can post how trading is bad, but it's been posted by numerous people here, most of which know more than me and/or just know how to tell it better)
I didn't overlook anything; it was a generalization of the section, nothing more. I seldom feel the need to point out the obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghurkaFixed that for you. Funny how you overlooked the account trading here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Well you pointed out how it started out but it has undergone an unwelcome mutation since then and is no longer simply a place for trading invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoI didn't overlook anything; it was a generalization of the section, nothing more. I seldom feel the need to point out the obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghurka
Given that this thread was really for research purposes rather than for change purposes maybe we should have another poll to find out whether the members here approve of account trading - which is really why the tracker staff think this place is scum city. I recently spotted a thread where some asshole had 53 buffered accounts up for trade....yes 53!!! Now I know that's probably the exception but to allow something like that is just unbelievable. This isn't directed at you Skizo and I know you probably can't do anything about it even if you wanted to but isn't it about time that common sense took over. Someone really needs to have a long hard think about whether FST should continue to allow this sort of abuse. I still can't believe it even though I saw it....53 accounts!!!
That same trader has now put up another thread with another 17 accounts to trade. That is so fucked up. People like that should just not be allowed in the BT community.
get rid of this section only brings shame in BT world
it is useful for some folks..
Yeah, useful if they wanna be banned on tracker(s). With all the ppl they have invited >_<Quote:
Originally Posted by mievmo
If the poll has served its purpose then the thread/poll should be closed
FST will loose alot of traffic.