LamseyQuote:
Originally posted by Lamsey@4 June 2003 - 23:28
You are still clinging to the view that it doesn't count when it happens to chickens because they're not human.
You must consider this; I abhor all cruelty, no matter who it is inflicted upon. Consider a Jew Battery Farm - that would be as horrific to you as a Chicken Battery Farm is to me.
I do not diminish the horrors of the Holocaust. You are diminishing the horrors of battery life.
It is not uncommon for a chicken to spend all of its natural life in a wire box barely big enough to fit into. It may never open its wings or move its feet more than an inch. It is force-fed fed growth hormones and all sorts of chemicals. Its eggs are harvested and then it is taken to a chicken slaughtering machine, which I will not describe in case anyone squeamish reads it (it makes me :x ).
Now imagine that happening to a human.
My view is that it shouldn't happen to a chicken either.
@ Tyke:
Not really, you can slip Marmite into soup and you don't notice it. But you still get the goodness.Quote:
That means if you're veggie and don't like Marmite you're stuffed for your B12
If you truly don't see the difference and I genuinely believe that you dont, otherwise you wouldn't be saying these things, then we have no common ground to discuss this matter.
Everyone Else
Chickens are not wee people with no arms, but with feathers. It doesn't work that way. It's got to do with the size of a brain, in proportion to the degree of difficulty in keeping that body alive. The conscious reasoning part is the brain capacity left over after the keeping alive thing is done.
A cow does not grieve the loss of a child the same way that a human does. They don't have the same memory, or feelings. The most important thing is to stay alive to propogate the species. Not in a specific way.
A chicken does not suffer in the same way that a child who is operated on, for no reason other than research, does. It simply isn't true.
