uTorrent 1.7 stable released

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07-16-2007, 06:09 PM
DreadWingKnigh

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

I'll be straightforward here.

All I see in the line of posts endorsing the ban in this thread are unfounded claims with no hard evidence.

Where's the proof that this client reports back to the *AAs?

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Originally Posted by limpdickkid

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Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh

What sort of proof do you have of this?

All I see here is a "because I said they do".

@DreadWingKnigh - This is why:

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Originally Posted by ACiD

Utorrent 1.7 is banned at DH. I know a bunch of other sites have started banning and I'm sure majority will soon! I wouldn't recommend using it if I were any of you.

Every version > 1.6.1 is Bittorrent Inc., which is directly in partnership with the movie studios. Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Palm Pictures and Kadokawa Pictures USA etc etc .

In fact versions > 1.7 don't even have the same developer doing it. It's all handled now by Bittorrent Inc's development. The original author (up to 1.6.1) is no longer even part of the project.

Right from uTorrent's FAQ

"Who makes µTorrent?

Ludvig Strigeus (ludde) is the original author and former maintainer of µTorrent.

BitTorrent Inc's developers are the current maintainers of µTorrent. "

If you want to use a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA have fun!

That's still a "because I say they do". There's no hard evidence saying that the MPAA/RIAA are actually endorsing this client actively.
07-16-2007, 06:15 PM
ACiD

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

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Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh

I'll be straightforward here.

All I see in the line of posts endorsing the ban in this thread are unfounded claims with no hard evidence.

Where's the proof that this client reports back to the *AAs?

What proof do you want? lol Your using a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA do you think they are involved just for fun and to see utorrent succeed as a great client? Are you that ignorant?

If you want proof, use utorrent 1.7, grab pg2 or something similar and watch for the following ip hits.

"64.124.145.113
64.124.145.104
206.169.225.92
64.34.174.141
64.34.172.152
206.169.170.246
206.169.230.102"

Feel free to trace those if you like and see where they end up. Why use a torrent client upgraded with the help of the MPAA when you can use clients like halite or azureus etc? Doesn't make much sense to me. Some people will never be convinced until they have someone show up at their door! If you didn't know that Bittorent Inc is in partnership with MPAA/RIAA then you really don't read the news very often.
07-16-2007, 06:16 PM
DreadWingKnigh

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

PG2's blocklists are overbearing and inaccurate. I won't use them.

Use wireshark and give me the actual information transferred to and from those IP addresses.
07-16-2007, 06:20 PM
ACiD

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

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Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh

PG2's blocklists are overbearing and inaccurate. I won't use them.

Use wireshark and give me the actual information transferred to and from those IP addresses.

Dude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!

There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.
07-16-2007, 06:21 PM
DreadWingKnigh

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

IF you're going to make the claims that uT sends info back to the RIAA/MPAA, at least have the decency to have the proof of WHAT info they're sending back.

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Originally Posted by ACiD

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Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh

PG2's blocklists are overbearing and inaccurate. I won't use them.

Use wireshark and give me the actual information transferred to and from those IP addresses.

Dude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!

There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.

I did my own tests with wireshark and found that 1.7.1 didn't even attempt ANY traffic to the IP addresses you claim it does.

Also, http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12790
07-16-2007, 07:41 PM
fstrulz

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

DreadWingKnigh = MPAA/RIAA

:lol:
07-16-2007, 08:05 PM
Pluto

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

yup. Iam sticking with 1.6.1 until halite is fully developed. Its lacking alot of neccessary features currently.
07-16-2007, 08:10 PM
weenden

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

some sites dont allow it so be careful
07-16-2007, 08:19 PM
ACiD

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

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Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh

IF you're going to make the claims that uT sends info back to the RIAA/MPAA, at least have the decency to have the proof of WHAT info they're sending back.

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Originally Posted by ACiD

Dude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!

There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.

I did my own tests with wireshark and found that 1.7.1 didn't even attempt ANY traffic to the IP addresses you claim it does.

Also, http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12790

Congratulations! I have tested with about 10 other people all getting the same reporting as myself.

I will give some links to you as well quoting the news:

http://www.slyck.com/story1006.html
http://www.slyck.com/story1357.html

Seriously man, MPAA is involved with Bittorrent Inc, Utorrent was bought by Bittorrent Inc back in December, this is a FACT! Seven months go by and 1.7 is released. Do you honestly believe that the MPAA are helping to make a torrent client better? Seriously, use your head man, think about it for 10 minutes before you respond. Why would the MPAA be involved in bittorrent inc and utorrent if they weren't getting anything out of it?! Have they changed their mind about piracy all together? If this isn't the case why wouldn't they make the code open source so people can squash these reports once and for all?

The fact that the MPAA is involved is enough evidence not to use the torrent client! There is a reason why some torrent sites have banned it and the rest will be soon to follow. Even if through your testing you didn't find any weird ip hits, do you think you never will? Test it for a week and see what happens.

If you want a good alternative, just like utorrent with out the mpaa involvement try this: http://www.binarynotions.com/halite.php

OR stick with Utorrent 1.6.1

If you want to continue using it then go ahead, I'm not going to try to convince you any further. I was explaining why some sites have banned it and why I wouldn't recommend it, thats all, warning the users of FST.

What does 1.7 give you that is soooo desirable that you would take that risk? The differences between it and 1.6.1 are minimal at best.
07-16-2007, 08:24 PM
sear

Re: uTorrent 1.7 stable released

all this UTorrent bashing is all a bit conspiracy theory for me, though I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just gonna stick to 1.6.1. if it aint broke don't fix it.

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