foul language

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Originally Posted by 100%

FUCK!
i said in the car, two days ago

A little voice next to me then said

"fak fak fak fak"

(my two year old)

This word obviously meant something more /real or (other) because out of the blue today he did it again, even though i had not said the word since the last time.

"fak, fak fak fak"

what rhymes with fuck which is not fuck apart from duck? ( distraction mode)

need to add to my vocabulary level.

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Nope you don't... you need to think how a two year old thinks... he wants to be understood... so ask him what he's saying... and when he says it ask him again... tell him is doesn't mean anything and ask him what he's talking about... it worked for me, albeit the problem word for me was shit.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Ok I agree with GayPaul.

I swear like a trooper but don't do it in front of my kids.

How the hell does that make one a hypocrite?:dry:

I also have sex, drink liquor, have sex, speed in my car on occasion, have sex, and have sex.

I'd tell my daughter not to do any of those things but when she hits adulthood, she has choices to make.

I think you were trying to make a point but ended up not making sense instead.

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I think you're being slightly ridiculous. Swearing is just words....just a part of the English language. Swearing doesn't require any sort of adult judgement to participate in because it's about self expression. All of the other things you mentioned could prove fatal in someone without the capacity for abstract thought.

The hypocrisy lies in the fact that people just don't like to hear children swear...it's something they see as the preserve of the worldly. People would be better off worrying about how children use language in general, and maybe focus on their use of disparaging and disrespectful words to other people or their absymal use of the vernacular in inappropriate settings....far more annoying than swearing.

Just as an aside btw, I didn't call anyone a hypocrite, I said that sometimes people can be hypocritical.

I don't moderate my language at all for anyone. I have a very good vocabulary and I'm not about to limit it because of an outdated perception of swearing. Sure, sometimes my parents or my boss perceptibly wince when they hear it but it's tough titties as far as I'm concerned. Not sure if I've ever sworn at the doctor's but then I can't imagine getting all that animated about getting some birth control or a smear done.

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Originally Posted by Squeamous

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Ok I agree with GayPaul.

I swear like a trooper but don't do it in front of my kids.

How the hell does that make one a hypocrite?:dry:

I also have sex, drink liquor, have sex, speed in my car on occasion, have sex, and have sex.

I'd tell my daughter not to do any of those things but when she hits adulthood, she has choices to make.

I think you were trying to make a point but ended up not making sense instead.

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I think you're being slightly ridiculous. Swearing is just words....just a part of the English language. Swearing doesn't require any sort of adult judgement to participate in because it's about self expression. All of the other things you mentioned could prove fatal in someone without the capacity for abstract thought.

The hypocrisy lies in the fact that people just don't like to hear children swear...it's something they see as the preserve of the worldly. People would be better off worrying about how children use language in general, and maybe focus on their use of disparaging and disrespectful words to other people or their absymal use of the vernacular in inappropriate settings....far more annoying than swearing.

Just as an aside btw, I didn't call anyone a hypocrite, I said that sometimes people can be hypocritical.

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Cool, now you argue semantics. Ok then. I never said you called anyone a hypocrite.

As aside btw, define a hypocrite.

Now, I guess you are cool with it but I am not cool with my kid calling someone a bitch ass ho or when frustrated, saying, "Fuck this shit, gawdamnit!"

With that in mind, kids tend to mimic adult speech (really speech in general), particularly at a young age when, I dunno, they are still grasping the English language.

I can't see how anyone on here would agree with you. I can just imagine you walking into a room smoking your last little bit o' weed and saying to your kid, "Hey I heard you been fuckin' up in school."

:mellow:

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Originally Posted by Squeamous

I don't moderate my language at all for anyone. I have a very good vocabulary and I'm not about to limit it because of an outdated perception of swearing. Sure, sometimes my parents or my boss perceptibly wince when they hear it but it's tough titties as far as I'm concerned. Not sure if I've ever sworn at the doctor's but then I can't imagine getting all that animated about getting some birth control or a smear done.

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That's cool. You don't bite your tongue for anyone.

For other folk, things like their job, children, other relatives like their elders, and the general public make them watch they say.

You must make the milliyons or you are a hobo.:ermm:

It would just be dandy for my kid to curse like Eazy-E and when confronted by me she says, "Shit daddy, it's just the English language. Get a fucking grip."

Maybe she'd still have a tooth left.

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Originally Posted by Squeamous

I don't moderate my language at all for anyone.
Sure, sometimes my parents or my boss perceptibly wince when they hear it but it's tough titties as far as I'm concerned.

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So, then, the pleasure of your company involves/requires the occasional wince, eh?

What's the upside to such self-indulgence?

Hell, I'm as intent as anyone on being "myself", but I actively avoid behavior or language designed to elicit wincing, cringing, or embarrassment, as it doesn't wear well. :whistling

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Originally Posted by Busyman™

As aside btw, define a hypocrite.

Now, I guess you are cool with it but I am not cool with my kid calling someone a bitch ass ho or when frustrated, saying, "Fuck this shit, gawdamnit!"

I can't see how anyone on here would agree with you. I can just imagine you walking into a room smoking your last little bit o' weed and saying to your kid, "Hey I heard you been fuckin' up in school."

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I think you can probably look up the word 'hypocrisy' in any good dictionary ;).

No, I probably wouldn't be happy with my kid saying the things you mentioned, but the first because they're Americanisms which would sound pretty silly in a suburb in England, the second one because swearing is best used sparingly otherwise it becomes meaningless. Swearing shouldn't be used as a substitute for a decent vocabulary.

And I've never done drugs of any kid except for alcohol.....I can't stand potheads.

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Originally Posted by Busyman™

That's cool. You don't bite your tongue for anyone.

For other folk, things like their job, children, other relatives like their elders, and the general public make them watch they say.

You must make the milliyons or you are a hobo.:ermm:

It would just be dandy for my kid to curse like Eazy-E and when confronted by me she says, "Shit daddy, it's just the English language. Get a fucking grip."

Maybe she'd still have a tooth left.

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No, I'm a research technician. I go to work wearing jeans and a t-shirt too.....read it and weep :P.

If any kid told me to get a grip they'd be lucky to have a tooth left regardless of the swearing.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

So, then, the pleasure of your company involves/requires the occasional wince, eh?

What's the upside to such self-indulgence?

Hell, I'm as intent as anyone on being "myself", but I actively avoid behavior or language designed to elicit wincing, cringing, or embarrassment, as it doesn't wear well. :whistling

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I don't do it to elicit any kind of response. If people respond that way that's a neurosis that they will either have to deal with in their own time or try to live with. It's a stupid thing to get upset about and I'm not about to tailor-make my conversation to suit the over-sensitive.

Hello Squeamy

I see you have dipped into the Drawing Room

Talking of language my daughter occasionally frequents the Lounge and she has a choice turn of phrase :pinch:

I do have to think about language in a work context especially if dealing with business associates or foreign military types. If I am simply trying to balance some books the air can turn incendiary. :dabs: