Mods, spying and security

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Originally Posted by DV8type

As far as i can tell, Brandon is the most notorious of two spies at FST.....check the Official FST Spy List :yikes: Thats right the O.F.S.T.S.L thread

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:D yap, Brandon is a bad one :D ... and a star here... in every Thread were u go and see F*N, Brendon is a part of the deal... :D

... k enough with this subject... ;) my opinion... if u play behind the rules, why are u affraid... u know, here, in FST i have some worst experience reagarding trading subject, but also FST help me a lot, and now i'm the follower of the rules on all trackers, and if u don't brake the rule u will have a very happy life (look around, here are a lot of good people that can help u, u don't need to brake the rule, just be u ;) ), so, this is it... m i right, or what? :D

Cheers to all!

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Originally Posted by phenomenoff

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Originally Posted by Brenya

Only solution to your dilemma, SAM, is for FST to get rid of the BitTorrent Invites Section.

I mean, as Defy pointed out, how can tracker admins tell if the giving of an invite is really transacted between two genuine friends? Being wary, they become suspicious of of the integrity of all giveaways and trading of invites on the public subforum. What's more, since a giveaway/trade between two internet-buddies can more easily be conducted for obvious reasons via the relatively more private PM system on this site, the tracker admins have even more reason to support their wariness and possible irrationality, as, again, Defy pointed out.

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Two genuine friends wouldn't need to organise an invite via FST would they.

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If you are trying to rebuke me, you are misunderstanding my argument. However, if you aren't, then I am the one who has misunderstood.
Nevertheless, I was using FST's PM system only as an example of a private network not monitored by tracker admins in order to prove my point that those trackers who do not allow the trading or giving of invites between strangers should be suspicious of all invite traffic on the forum. Other examples are email, AOL, IRC... you get the idea.

brb, spying :ph34r:

dont really care
i just dont trade my best accounts
i use them :)

ill make it simple for you all!

if you dont trade your account is not at risk

make friends and get invites through friends

most trackers have one rule towards traders: ONCE a trader ALWAYS a trader!

@tintin, that's not 100 percent true though I agree with your sentiments. Many tackers will ban you for giveaways and some just for being a member of FST.

well,
the point i tried to make was simple and i wasn't trying to attack anyone while pointing it out.
why the trackers' admins and mods are here?
they told us :they are here to help , if you have a problem with their tracker, if you can't log in to their tracker,if you account disabled... just make a topic and they will answer to you ,great.
others told us: they are old members here who gave help to fst and they have the right to stay.....cool
they have the right to stay ... hell yeah ,i agree with that
they give help when it needed .... if they help will only replying on threads about "i can't log in" or "why my account got disabled" etc...
there are irc channels for that
i don't see anything connecting them to the invite section but the fact that they can monitor and see how are things going there ..
well, they don't need invites....they mostly don't giveaway invites ...and they stopped trading after they became trackers' admins and mods.
so why they have access to the invite section ?
another point worth to discuss;
trackers' admins crying over trading want it to stop but what they do to prevent it.
disabling accounts thats it
why don't they come here and make giveaways and pick members here ... i think this will lessen trading
look at it this way;
many members here trading to get to some trackers they know it hard to get invites for free like sct,fsc,ftn,nb mostly all level 7+
if those trackers' admins giveaway invites here and pick people who match their conditions.. it will make many people here stop trading.
why? cause you will give them alternative and hope
not to mention show them your good side instead of the bad one that hunts their asses.
for example, since nb last giveawy : there haven't been any nb trading
cause brandon gave people who likes to join his tracker hope ..they'll wait for him to make another giveaway
why don't you do the same and after that disable every account you suspect.........just disable at will.
another point to clarify;
the way trackers mods and admins acting when they addressing members here
some of them acting with attitude like they are gods ,they don't negotiate ..don't listen ..and some times they don't talk and even when they talk ;they talk gibberish.
i saw potuk mod asking us politly to remove potuk invites from a giveaway and we removed them.
i didn't include tl and potuk invites in my giveaways cause they are nice and they talk b4 act.
i urge all of you to do the same please :)
esp. oink mods :D
i have nothing against you people but i hope you show me and the rest of your fellow members here your good side ..your generous side instead of the bad one.
i won't people to stop calling you spies.
i want us to stop trading by seeing more giveaways from trackers' admins
many of you i respect and some of you helped me and one of you honored me with an invite to his site ... i'm talking about tophos admin melv
@DV8type
if i have to pick one tracker it will be fsc but alas where is the invite? :)

last thing
you know that many members here looks at you as rule models you can see it under their avtars , in their sigs or even on their skin :)
the same stairs you climb two or three years ago they are climbing them now so please help them

yes i'm comfortable :D *puts feet up*

SAM that was a long read but i got there that is a every good Point what you are sayying

@ Sam - I don't think you've really been around long enough to see the true picture. You want more giveaways from the tracker staff - that's not going to happen. Why isn't it going to happen - in a nutshell there are simply too many selfish members here that spoil it for everyone else.

There have been giveaways before you arrived here. Ask Wild about the number of accounts he had to disable the last time he gave away some invites - some cheated or created dupe accounts, some were previously banned members and some tried trading their account immediately.

What is the point of giving out say 200 invites here if you then spend the next week disabling most of them and only end up with 20 good members. I know for a fact that some of the staff give out invites here to the better members but don't publicise it - isn't that a better way?

I have a lot of respect for the staff that come here to help out....and yes, they also come here to look for those who abuse the rules of their tracker. Wouldn't you if you had your own tracker?

Instead of knocking them for looking after the interest of their tracker why don't you concentrate on those who spoil it for all the decent members here - you know the ones I mean ;)