Oh This Is Bad!

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Originally posted by namzuf9@25 October 2003 - 01:52
Fuck me Lamsey. Do you drive? Do you take public transport? Do you realise how many people a year die in road accidents? Don't ever drive. Don't cross the road. Don't take a shit cos a hernia could split and kill you.
And don't smoke cos at least we may enjoy a cigarette.
Living is the biggest fucking risk you will ever take and whatever gets you through  it, enjoy it.


Fell free to edit the obscenity out of this, I don't often do it.

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It is fine to relate your personal horrors in relation to smoking and your thoughts to people about why you want them to quit in a general thread about smoking.
However, to tell someone in a nicotine fit to be thankful he has no harmful cigarettes and to stop killing himself and expect a considered response, is a losing proposition. It puts people on the defensive and it comes off as preaching, especially in this case, given the age differences.
Sometimes we let our emotions drive our comments and forget that even constructive criticism or well intentioned comments needs to be meted out at the right time, in the right way, or it will achieve the opposite.

Viola, Lamsey has now elicited the smokers bravado.



Namzuf,

We all accept that our preferred lifestyle of easy and convenient commutes, the ability to drive to the country or travel abroad at will, comes at a price. These are risk/reward tradeoffs. The number of people engaged in these activities is everyone and the overall mortality rate is almost nil if you remove drug related fatalities.
Cigarettes on the other hand, may cause temporary enjoyment to the user, but the payback is that 100% suffer from it (Cancer gets all the hype, but is just the tip of the iceberg). Just ask Jonno, who posted that people should not start. So, rather than seeing smoking as a casual thing, it is really a trap people fall into and it is difficult to escape. Most people NEED to smoke, not want too. Even as they take a drag, they mutter, "gotta quit this filthy habit". Cigarettes will kill you or hurt you, even if used properly, but a car never will. 70% of all car related deaths are drug related (drinking, marijuana, etc.).
So my point is that the comparison is not valid as it fails to take into account the vast disparity in the denominators and the fact that cars never kill actively, only passively if misused by the operator.


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Shit does happen, but no need looking for a pile to jump into!

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Originally posted by hobbes@25 October 2003 - 02:42
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Shit does happen, but no need looking for a pile to jump into!

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very nicely put, but i say that while i inhale from the cancer stick! - :D

For me even if i wanted to smoke, i couldn't :P

Just had a smoke then...

I live my life like im going to die tomorrow...So every other day is just a bonus to me...

I been through a lot in 19 years...so im happy im still alive and im glad i've never taken a cheap way out...

I smoke, I drink, I eat unhealthy (i rarely eat, when i do eat *its not a proper meal*)...And im not the most healthy person in the world...but im still alive...

Im sick of people telling me what to do...no person has changed me...friends/family/girlfriends have all tried to change me...yet they have all failed miserably...

I reckon people should just let other people live their lives and be happy that they are alive at the moment...and not think about what might happen 10 years down the road...

Im glad the people i know and love are alive today and i treasure that...and i think everyone should treasure the people they know and love being alive...because no one has control of tomorrow...

Laters
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Live fast, die young and leave a ...um,er...crispy green corpse?

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Originally posted by Keikan@25 October 2003 - 08:52
For me even if i wanted to smoke, i couldn't :P

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why not?

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Originally posted by clocker@25 October 2003 - 19:26
Live fast, die young and leave a ...um,er...crispy green corpse?

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Yeah i guess thats my motto summed up...

i got a bad pack of smokes *damn marlboro*...my pack reads *SMOKING CAUSES LUNG CANCER* (no shit) <_<

I wish I had smoked :(

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Originally posted by bigboab@25 October 2003 - 04:19
I wish I had smoked :(

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not with a f*cking bargepole....

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Originally posted by hobbes@25 October 2003 - 02:42
Namzuf,

We all accept that our preferred lifestyle of easy and convenient commutes, the ability to drive to the country or travel abroad at will, comes at a price. These are risk/reward tradeoffs. The number of people engaged in these activities is everyone and the overall mortality rate is almost nil if you remove drug related fatalities.
Cigarettes on the other hand, may cause temporary enjoyment to the user, but the payback is that 100% suffer from it (Cancer gets all the hype, but is just the tip of the iceberg). Just ask Jonno, who posted that people should not start. So, rather than seeing smoking as a casual thing, it is really a trap people fall into and it is difficult to escape. Most people NEED to smoke, not want too. Even as they take a drag, they mutter, "gotta quit this filthy habit". Cigarettes will kill you or hurt you, even if used properly, but a car never will. 70% of all car related deaths are drug related (drinking, marijuana, etc.).
So my point is that the comparison is not valid as it fails to take into account the vast disparity in the denominators and the fact that cars never kill actively, only passively if misused by the operator.


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Shit does happen, but no need looking for a pile to jump into&#33;

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My I direct you attention to the following articles:

www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/08/1055010873305.html+petrol+fumes+cancer&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]Petrol fumes: A direct cause of up to a fifth cancer deaths[/url]

and

www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/04/1031115886010.html+exhaust+fumes+cancer&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]Lung cancer lniked to diesil pollution.[/url]

I hope you all find this an interesting read and to be honest, working in the city (London) scares me more than smoking.