What do you think of blackcats-games

Thats the problem, most members do not realise how great it is.

I am just having a discussion now on BCG, a member is saying other trackers that he is on dont ban until you get to a .5 ratio or lower, here is basically my reply.

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but how on earth are those systems better, if you get banned with a .5 ratio

on here you could have a 1 Global Ratio (includes SP) and upload 0.00 Actual upload and still keep your account.

just a few of the top SP payout members.

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 1.50 TB Actual Uploaded: 95.77 GB SP Credited Upload: 1.41 TB
Downloaded 1.50 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.001 Actual Ratio: 0.062

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 1.98 TB Actual Uploaded: 650.63 GB SP Credited Upload: 1.35 TB
Downloaded 1.85 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.068 Actual Ratio: 0.342

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 2.37 TB Actual Uploaded: 1.07 TB SP Credited Upload: 1.30 TB
Downloaded 1.78 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.331 Actual Ratio: 0.601

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 2.74 TB Actual Uploaded: 1.49 TB SP Credited Upload: 1.25 TB
Downloaded 2.58 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.060 Actual Ratio: 0.576

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 1.65 TB Actual Uploaded: 464.03 GB SP Credited Upload: 1.20 TB
Downloaded 1.56 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.060 Actual Ratio: 0.290

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 1.25 TB Actual Uploaded: 133.35 GB SP Credited Upload: 1.12 TB
Downloaded 1.29 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 0.964 Actual Ratio: 0.100

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 1.66 TB Actual Uploaded: 556.94 GB SP Credited Upload: 1.12 TB
Downloaded 1.49 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.111 Actual Ratio: 0.364

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 1.93 TB Actual Uploaded: 850.62 GB SP Credited Upload: 1.09 TB
Downloaded 1.65 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.168 Actual Ratio: 0.504

Uploaded Total Uploaded: 1.81 TB Actual Uploaded: 750.74 GB SP Credited Upload: 1.08 TB
Downloaded 1.62 TB
Share Ratios Ratio: 1.116 Actual Ratio: 0.451

so 6 of those would have been banned elsewhere, but they can still keep their accounts here, and members still say its to hard here, it just boggles the mind.

If you download something, just seed the thing, if a leechers shows up, great upload to them, if not, its not the end of the world.

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honestly it does just boggle the mind sometimes how members just do not get it at all.

and obviously if you want PU/SPU then bloody work at it a bit, we cant just hand you everything on a plate, you have to do something yourself.

it is mind boggling. but i guess it's just one of those things some people will never get through their head (another example: rar vs unrar). i dont see the point of pulling out your hair over it. on bcg, it's hard just to seed to .5 sometimes, so even that isnt a good ratio/ban system.

But its not hard to get a .5 actual ratio either, thats what is so confusing.

I downloaded all 3 xenosagas for the PS2, I have been seeding them for a month, not a month constant either, i do turn my PC off on a night, I also get capped for 10 hours of the day to 25KBs upload, 80KBs usually.

This is all actual upload btw from utorrent, not what the site says with any SP bonus i may have got. but if you do add SP bonus to the below, thats quite a nice ratio on each one.

Utorrent episode 1 is 8.76gig i have uploaded 21gig 2.5 ratio
Site Created: 31d 17:32:04 Timespent: 19d 16:19:48 Torrent Ratio: 2.572

Utorrent episode 2 is 6.79gig i have uploaded 9.05 gig 1.3 ratio
Site Created: 31d 17:31:02 Timespent: 17d 15:47:27 Torrent Ratio: 1.715

Utorrent episode 3 is 6.29gig i have uploaded 9.93gig 1.575 ratio
Site Created: 31d 17:26:59 Timespent: 17d 15:17:33 Torrent Ratio: 1.825

and 2 of the 3 still have leechers on them. and as you can see, SP has boosted those ratios up even higher.

and old games, not brand new scene releases, they were recycled actually just before i downloaded them, so had already been on the tracker for over 18 months, and not a SB in sight (from my end)

So all it takes is a bit of patience, and anyone on the site can get to PU/SPU.

I really don't think members realise how much they do get out of the SP system and how this enables them to jump on older stuff that they couldn't on other sites.

What they also need to realise is that BCG is unique as a tracker and in the use of the SP system. If they don't like it they could always find another tracker which has the same content as BCG...oh but they can't because BCG is unique. It is because of this that they shouldn't be comparing it to any other trackers.

well thats another thing, we just cant please everyone can we.

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I'm not sure why you would think that making Blackcat's into a humongous garbage dump with over 6,000 torrents nobody wants to download, an actual goal to achieve.


Anyway, if you wish to waste your time, life, bandwidth, resources, electricity on idle torrents going nowhere to nobody, go ahead. I just prefer to put my energies into something more useful.

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and you wonder why us tracker owners loose our temper sometimes.

stoi, can u send me invite to black-cats??

I like BCG but the admins seem to spend far too much time on worthless tinkering when the focus should be on getting more peers, and higher quality uploads (install instructions, patches, nocd's etc).

worthless hmm OK.

we cant force members to download, and we have 70,000 seeders so thats not to bad.

and how hard is it to install a game, its like riding a bike, do it once, and you can do it 1000 times.

worthless hmm OK.

we cant force members to download, and we have 70,000 seeders so thats not to bad.

and how hard is it to install a game, its like riding a bike, do it once, and you can do it 1000 times.

Does black-cats has PS3 games?

And what is happening with register page, is it down by purpose, or admins are working something, i read here there will be new invite system?

well i have not seen altinertia for 2 weeks now, and he has not been on the site, so the referal system was supposed to be put on tomorrow, but without him as he has all the code....

and its down on purpose, we are not taken any new members atm, actually we are getting rid of a few.

and we have very few PS3 games, just for the simple reason, you cannot play them yet, so not many download them when they do get uploaded.

Thats a pitty for altinertia...I hope its just middle age's crises :) , and that he will be back soon.

Thx on reply btw. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by stoi

well like i said in another thread.

we take the sp off altogether, but still have the hit and run rules, and you have to seed back to actual leechers, you could be on the torrent for weeks/months.

and its not 72 hours constant, it just 72 hours active, and yes even i have to abide by the same rule, and i have to turn my PC off on a night, so 72 hours takes me a week, and i agree it is bloody annoying, but better than sitting on it for months, hoping a leecher comes along imo.

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The Seed Points system is the most useful feature for a private tracker. Its a mystery to me why other trackers don't have the exact same system as you guys do.

The only thing I don't like is the design. Its awful. If you guys had a sleek design with a nice logo. The tracker would be perfect.

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Originally Posted by lukee

The Seed Points system is the most useful feature for a private tracker. Its a mystery to me why other trackers don't have the exact same system as you guys do.

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I think some bitch about the SP system hurting the speeds of the torrents(although I have never had problems with the speeds of the downloads there, new or old), so maybe that's why other trackers don't use it. I don't know, it's a mystery to me too. I would like to see every tracker using this system.

Must admit i have never heard that argument, or experienced it myself, even with 5 seeds on a 18 month old torrent, i still maxed my 20meg connection on it. (and the game was crap as well, not like a blockbuster where you might expect that).

I just think its the fact that you cannot buffer on one torrent, and use that buffer to hit and run on others, but on the other side of the coin for that, if you just seed it, and even if no leechers ever show up again on it, you will get your 1 ratio so it will not be a hit and run anyway.

some of the arguments I hear, just does not make sense, and I hear a hell of a lot of arguments, a lot even say they look all over first before they download from us, and that includes Limewire, kazaa, Emule, and i just shake my head in disbelief lol

Yeah, I've read those comments(about the speed) on certain torrent comments at BC. And also on other tracker forums, when the staff would make a thread like "how can we improve". And somebody will bring up your SP system.

I think it's a very lame argument. It's just weird that your tracker is the only one with this system. You would think that some tracker would have implemented this already, since trackers "borrow" ideas from each other all the time(freeleech/no ratio, bonus systems, etc.)

lol well i am not a member of anywhere else, so i only get to hear about the crap people say about it, never the good.

and obviously I am not naive to think that every torrent can go at 20MB/s that we have on the tracker but the SP system does work on the faster you get rid of the leecher/s by seeding to them, the less time you have to seed for in the long run. The 20:1 the SP to cost etc etc

I dont know, im a bit sick of explaining it over and over again lol and we still get members that joined Dec 2006 asking questions about it, and others that didnt even know it existed, scary.

SP system whats that......mind explaining it stoi.....kidding :P, I think it's the best game tracker out there. There are lots of multipurpose trackers and some ones that specialize in just movies or xbox related materials, but the seeds we have are a lot and you can almost always find a seed on games uploaded long before, and reseed requests are built-in on the info page for each torrent. I don't know any other trackers that do that. And I gotta praise the uploaders and members who bring us great content. Gotta thank Grizzly and Bambacha for their awesome uploads, and Harcroft for his awesome commitment to making good xbox content.

Bad things about blackcats
-I hate the forums style now, it looked better before(it's not like the stats page which I was able to get accustomed too, the art in the backround makes it hard to quickly scroll and see what I want)
-I don't like the whole lottery idea
-I want to see the top 10 list again. I think it is only for mod eyes only now.
-Paws feature doesn't seem to have any benifits yet like promised, but I think that's cause Alt hasn't showed up yet....

So I hope he comes back and is alright... $$$ I want my bonus o.O

1: you can change the skin you know, bottom left of the forums, drop down box next to the languages drop down box. (how come a BCG thread always goes to the forums on here lol)

2: Lottery, as in the main page lottery, thats been on forever and a day, i think that was on even before the SP system was, if thats the lottery your on about.

3: We believe that was killing the server, so its took off for now.

4: well the paws feature is the only thing that works 100% its the other crap we have that use that, that do not work, so its on the back burner atm.

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Originally Posted by stoi

lol well i am not a member of anywhere else

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Umm... Why not?

You're the one of the best sysops I've ever had the pleasure of laying my eyes on (no homo) and I'm sure ANY other tracker would love to have you as a mod/admin. I'm sure a game tracker doesn't satisfy ALL your pirating needs...

This site has some wierd rules and unforgiving staff. I got an account banned from there because it had only numbers as the name:-/

It's kinda random only having numbers SGA but i'm sure they said something before completely banning you.

No it doesnt, but if truth be known, other sources does.

Last torrent site i was a member off, i got accused of stealing one of their uploaders, and some of the staff from there, came to BCG and spammed the hell out of everywhere telling everyone what i had allegedally done.

Well i cleared it with the owner first who was a good friend of mine and was X-Staff on the 1st public BCG, he said go for it, i went for it, and got a load of shit for it.

but that site now has 12 torrents on or it did the last I heard, so not sure what happened to it, and i am not going to join again to see.

so ever since then (about 3-4 years ago now) i have never joined another site (well i did join one, was not for me, so deleted my account after 2 weeks, I am far to outspoken sometimes for my own good lol). (and that was a lvl 9 tracker, just goes to show, lvls mean nothing.)

and numbers in your name, thats going back a bit, i believe we did send out a mass announcement, that if you had all numbers, to contact the staff box and we would change your name to what you wanted. if you did not contact us, then your account would be deleted.

Outside of music trackers (my other love) BCG was hands down my favourite tracker. The content was simply the best I knew of and the community awesome. Whenever a new game was released I didn't bother checking reviews to see if it was worth a punt, I would just check BCG.

Shame my account was disabled/deleted due in to inactivity when I stupidly forgot to park my account when I went on holiday. Damn I miss it. I can just about find the torrents elsewhere, but not the community.

Hopefully one day I'll be able to get back in!

Keep up the good work.

I think that the seedpoints system requires one to seed for too long to avoid a H&R. 72 hours before you even start accruing points is way too high. The highest I've seen to avoid a H&R on any other tracker is 72 hours total.

Great initiative! :)

I agree to all that have been said about the aesthetics of the site, i just checked all themes and could not find an appealing one, though, the ICG is probably the best out of them all...
I personally do think that aesthetics especially considering the fact that the site is near perfect in terms of content and good in terms of security.
I think its time you guys redeem our sore eyes... ;)

On another note, i do not know if it was formerly discussed since i did not read all 11 pages of this thread, so please excuse me if i am repeating something that has already been said.
I do believe that since BCG is (the leading) a site that focuses on games and therefore its users are (mostly) games addicts, the site should provide some (or the best) online gaming content that will allow users in the community to participate and challenge each other... I'm not talking about setting up an unreal server or that sort of things. I'm talking about pimping up some arcade games (like Pacman) and providing some unique enterntaining content that can be created relatively easily.

Again, if i missed the link on the site just point me to the correct direction... :D

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Originally Posted by Snefclarb

I think that the seedpoints system requires one to seed for too long to avoid a H&R. 72 hours before you even start accruing points is way too high. The highest I've seen to avoid a H&R on any other tracker is 72 hours total.

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So, 72 hours is just to avoid H&R, then afterwards, you get rewarded. That makes sense and is totally fair.

Srry I didn read the 27 Pages

So i dun know if these points Was Discussed b4 or not...

BCG is the best Tracker for Games Out there

the 1st thing I complain about is Getting bad Speeds For OLD Content
in that i suggest that Part of donations goes to buy a number of Severs that r used to Store Oldy non-Seeded Torrents

the 2nd thg is the style
i think many users dun like it if compared to P** and F** or even S**
As a Good Photoshop designer i can state that this style fits a 1998 website


that Was All
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72hrs is not high at all..

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Originally Posted by Snefclarb

The highest I've seen to avoid a H&R on any other tracker is 72 hours total.

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nope ScT has a 120 hour rule on packs... 5 days ! ! ! !

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Originally Posted by dunson

So, 72 hours is just to avoid H&R, then afterwards, you get rewarded. That makes sense and is totally fair.

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No, 72 hours before you can start getting the points which count towards stopping it being a H&R.

Many PC games are ~7GB now, so to stop one of those being a H&R it would be 72 hours + 70 hours to get the points to stop it being a H&R = 142 hours.

The points you get aren't a 'reward', they are to prevent you falling into bad standing. There is no positive effect of getting them; only prevention of a negative one.

As for ScT - I'm not a member there, and you mention PACKS being 120 hours, well how large are packs normally? I got one from SCC, a couple of series of a show - it weighed in at 22GB. Since you were comparing packs to Blackcats releases in terms of seeding time requirements, by the Blackcats rules you'd have to seed that for 292 hours. 120 hours isn't so much given the size.

Is best tracker of game, I think its best wourld game tracker...... :*:)

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Originally Posted by Snefclarb

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Originally Posted by dunson

So, 72 hours is just to avoid H&R, then afterwards, you get rewarded. That makes sense and is totally fair.

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No, 72 hours before you can start getting the points which count towards stopping it being a H&R.

Many PC games are ~7GB now, so to stop one of those being a H&R it would be 72 hours + 70 hours to get the points to stop it being a H&R = 142 hours.

The points you get aren't a 'reward', they are to prevent you falling into bad standing. There is no positive effect of getting them; only prevention of a negative one.

As for ScT - I'm not a member there, and you mention PACKS being 120 hours, well how large are packs normally? I got one from SCC, a couple of series of a show - it weighed in at 22GB. Since you were comparing packs to Blackcats releases in terms of seeding time requirements, by the Blackcats rules you'd have to seed that for 292 hours. 120 hours isn't so much given the size.

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The points are a reward because you do not need to get anything and they are positives that pull you out of a negative situation.

Packs on SCT are 75-150GBs unless its just some little season pack or a trilogy or something like most sites have anyway.

Blackcats has a lot of high quality content, but the user ranking is a little strict.

I have a 1.6+ ratio and I'm being marked as kitty litter. I normally download psp content and the dls are generally small and don't generate mant leechers.

Now I can't even download one thing and I have to seed torrents that never get leechers.

Its a little frustrating being stuck at that level for awhile...

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Originally Posted by civeta

Blackcats has a lot of high quality content, but the user ranking is a little strict.

I have a 1.6+ ratio and I'm being marked as kitty litter. I normally download psp content and the dls are generally small and don't generate mant leechers.

Now I can't even download one thing and I have to seed torrents that never get leechers.

Its a little frustrating being stuck at that level for awhile...

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It's amazing how many people ignore Seed Points, such a great innovation.

http://www.blackcats-games.net/forum...9&st=0&start=0 - Try reading this.

I know how seed points work, thanks -_-.

I have less than 5 torrents that can be seeded back and at that my computer can't be on all the time.

But my point was that the restrictions are a little harsh don't you think? Kitty litter with a 1.6 ratio? I don't see how that makes sense.

For some reason I just tried to login to Blackcats and it says my account has been disabled. I have a good ratio and only logged in last a week ago...!

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Info from http://melonarcade.com/disabled.php
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lolwut?
Your probably here because you were banned from Blackcats, and don't know why, don't worry, your not the only one!
Anyone who didn't generate a keyword was disabled, and everyone got a 1 month notice, and there was an announcement sent to everyone, a news post, IRC spamming etc. all pointing to a gigantic forum thread explaining everything! So we did warn everyone about it. And yes, this is official, not some random message.
This was the August 22 announcement:

Show/Hide Aug-22-08 - Important!!
http://www.blackcats-games.net/forum...howtopic=22086
All members must read and take the required action. You must visit the generate my keyword link in your userdetails page before we hide the site away. if you dont have the key word you need to gain access, then you dont gain access (in fact there will be no account to gain access to).
EDIT
If you are looking at your userdetails page and you see *********** next to key word, you have selected your account to be deleted. If you think that this is a mistake, send a msg to the staffbox or direct to me and we can sort it out.

Okay... so WTF happened here?
Well, on August 22, an announcement was sent to everyone, I don't see how anyone can miss it, and eveyrone had to generate a keyword for when the site goes hiding or else they get disabled on September 1, which was delayed to the 15th and again to the 19th/20th, which linked to a forum thread: http://www.blackcats-games.net/forum...howtopic=22086
Since you cannot view it, this is what was written:

How to Find your Userdetails Page:

Click on your name in the top status bar, it is on every page of the tracker, this will take you to your userdetails page.

A link will appear shortly in your userdetails page, its bright red and you cant miss it. Clicking on this will bring you to an up-to-date (ish) user agreement (its mostly the same agreement as before but with added triple boston-arm-lock move (ok just the confidentiality bit at the top). It basically means, you allow us to keep records of you on our files (usernames, ips etc ) for use with account history, bans etc.
Agreeing to this will also generate a new 'key-word', for use with the fake index page the site will display to non members (as opposed to the blackcats logo etc.)

once in place, if you are logged out you will see this page. there is a search box on the page which you need to enter your key-word (you will need to type it in, not cut and paste). You do not need to hit submit or press enter. If the keyword is valid, it will generate the usual username/password feilds for logging in at the very bottom of the screen. EDIT HERE!! The mechanism that brings up the input boxes is written in AJAX. I used firefox with no script throughout writing and testing this(i hate IE) and i had to allow script to run from BC for it to work. FINISH EDIT!!! enter your username and password as normal and you will then enter the site proper.

Generated key words are just snippets of words generated from a dictionary and are completely random. Some of them are readable (therefore easy to remember), others are not. key words cannot be re-generated.

They are also specific to your account so someone else cannot use your word to gain access to their account. So do not give out your keyword to anyone, even though its useless without the username and pass associated with it. Only you can see your own key-word, so staff will not be able to help you remember it. staff cannot reset the key-word either, its just like another password basically.

If you need to recover your password for some reason (or your keyword), type 'recover' in the search box. This will bring up the usual email text box (again at the foot of the page). enter the email address of the account you wish to recover and submit as normal.

The referal system is in place and will also make use of the fake index pages searchbox. Full details of this will be posted in good time.

This link will be visible for about a week so make sure you generate your key word and make a note of it. after the link has gone;

If you took no action or didnt visit the page, your account will be deleted.

If you selected 'I DISAGREE', your account will be deleted.

If you select ' I AGREE', its all gravy.

Any questions and I hope i can answer them.
Okay, so how do I get my account back?
Well, just do as the #waitingroom topic says!
Here is what it says:

Did you generate your passkey??? If you have been disabled for not generating your keyword, you cannot be reenabled at this time. NEVER. Any questions in #help regarding this will result in a kick from the channel. Write a mail to [email protected] concerning your account....and we will look into

Thanks you for understainding! And yes, this is official.

Great. I don't remember seeing that announcement, so I guess i'm screwed...

How do I get back in? Do I have to try and get an invite and start all over again....? :pinch:

Yup, ur gonna have to start all over, BCG doesnt give a shit about its members