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feel free to correct me but according to gewgle:Quote:
Originally Posted by moslem01
totally what ???Quote:
Originally Posted by S3v3N
shame on u , did u read koran ?? read sorra el tawba ( 5 ) and (29)
and tell me what deos it say ?
And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are afolk who know not.
i see no mention of killing:unsure:
They make the killing bit up :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Bofeel free to correct me but according to gewgle:Quote:
Originally Posted by moslem01
And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are afolk who know not.
and:
And they observe toward a believer neither pact nor honour. These are they who are transgressors.
i see no mention of killing:unsure:
I might have got the wrong bit, like. I'm not too great at arabic.Quote:
Originally Posted by enoughfakefilesThey make the killing bit up :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Bo
According to one site I found, neither was mohammed :dabs:
From what i hear they translate the koran to say what they like.
I was more thinking off the time when Jay and Silent Bob read people slagging them off on the internets and traced them down :earl:. You and me could be them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chalice
Do different "branches" of Islam believe different things.
Do they have different translations of the Koran
Do they worship differently.
[youtube]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yiPbxvHp6ng[/youtube]Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip MonkI was more thinking off the time when Jay and Silent Bob read people slagging them off on the internets and traced them down :earl:. You and me could be them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chalice
[youtube]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_Sl_gk4ck&feature=related[/youtube]
:lol:
That could so be me and you.
is this stuff for real ?:unsure:
reminds me of LOST :dabs:Quote:
1. The first verse (1:1),known as "Basmalah," consists of 19 letters.
2. The Quran consists of 114 suras, which is ..............19 x 6.
3. The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or ....19 x 334. [6234 numbered verses & 112 un-numbered verses (Basmalahs) 6234+112 = 6346] Note that 6+3+4+6 =.......19.
4. The Basmalah occurs 114 times, despite its conspicuous absence from Sura 9 (it occurs twice in Sura 27) & 114= 19x6.
5. From the missing Basmalah of Sura 9 to the extra Basmalah of Sura 27, there are precisely ...............19 suras.
6. It follows that the total of the sura numbers from 9 to 27 (9+10+11+12+...+26+27) is 342, or .............19 x 18.
7. This total (342) also equals the number of words between the two Basmalahs of Sura 27, and 342 = ........19 x 18.
8. The famous first revelation (96:1-5) consists of .......19 words.
9. This 19-worded first revelation consists of 76 letters .19 x 4.
10. Sura 96, first in the chronological sequence, consists of .....................................................19 verses.
11. This first chronological sura is placed atop the last ..19 suras.
12. Sura 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, and 304 equals .19 x 16.
13. The last revelation (Sura 110) consists of ............19 words.
14. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of ................19 letters.
15. 14 different Arabic letters, form 14 different sets of "Quranic Initials" (such as A.L.M. of 2:1), and prefix 29 suras. These numbers add up to 14+14+29 = 57 = ......19 x 3.
16. The total of the 29 sura numbers where the Quranic Initials occur is 2+3+7+...+50+68 = 822, and 822+14 (14 sets of initials) equals 836, or ................. 19 x 44.
17. Between the first initialed sura (Sura 2) and the last initialed sura (Sura 68) there are 38 un-initialed suras 19 x 2.
18. Between the first and last initialed sura there are ....19 sets of alternating "initialed" and "un-initialed" suras.
19. The Quran mentions 30 different numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50,000, & 100,000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19x8534.
http://submission.org/quran/app1.html
found that here :dabs:
Love the wee bug JD
yes the Koran is so mysterious !Quote:
Originally Posted by J-dye
People do things lie that with numbers like all the time. They just find places where there hypothesis works and record them. Where it doesn't they ignore them.
Bit like accountancy reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
thanks jp , you can call him timmy :D
I'll stick with Les, if that's OK.
Oh your bug.
Hokey Dokey, Timmy it is.
Obviously there's the addition of your dark satanic master to factor in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigglesBit like accountancy reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Where is manker btw.
there is only one Islam.Quote:
Do different "branches" of Islam believe different things.
Do they have different of the Koran.
Do they worship differently.
there are 2 groups however , suna and shea' both believe in Koran and have the same principles of Islam but the shea' believe that "Ali Ben Abi Taled (Mohamed cousin)" was more worthy to lead the Muslims after Mohamed died .
Koran original language is Arabic , and it was in this language specifically to defy the Arabs at that era who where geniuses in using the language to the degree that one of them could stand and say wonderful poem all day in Mecca's markets .
and God asked them to make just one verse like the verses of the Koran , and they couldn't .
there is of course English translation , but i ll tell you the truth ,i read some of the English translation of Koran ,and it doesn't come even near to Koran beauty , it's so beautiful ,mysterious and miraculous that even Arabic teachers couldn't understand some verses .
there is this web site , if you like you can see some of the miracles of the Koran.
http://www.55a.net
no all Muslims worship one God.
Aren't the Sufis another tradition within Islam?
There were 125 letters in that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
125 divided by 4 equals 23.
Fact.
Argue with that, oh ye of little faith.
Thanks for that.
Re the Worship part I meant do both groups have the same services, times to pray, traditions. That sort of thing really.
Who did the other group, the suna, believe should lead.
23 is the lowest prime number where the digits are sequential.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaliceThere were 125 letters in that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
125 divided by 4 equals 23.
Fact.
Argue with that, oh ye of little faith.
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
I knew you'd get that.
Wait a minute, you engineered it ya wee twister.
sufis are like nuns in churches , they choose to live poor and to give most of their money to help other poor people , and pray for long times , travel to tell people about Koran and god .Quote:
Aren't the Sufis another tradition within Islam?
they do the same Islam 5 basic things.Quote:
Thanks for that.
Re the Worship part I meant do both groups have the same services, times to pray, traditions. That sort of thing really.
Who did the other group, the suna, believe should lead.
pray 5 times/ day .
fasting in Ramadan"Arabic month to sense the poor people feeling".
Zakah "giving a percentage of what you own to poor people"
ِAlhag "group of things Muslims do in mecca"
Alshhadateen "believing that there is only one God which is Allah and believing that his messenger is Mohamed"
Suna doesn't believe that one was more worthy than another one ,they respect the order which the circumstances at that time allow .
So they vary on one very specific thing and are exactly the same on everything else. In what they believe and in how they worship.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Would they inter-marry and the like or do the people tend to "stick to their own"
To be fair the respect for the order circumstances permitted did involve a little bit of blood letting and the Sunni majority tend to see the Shias as bit "iffy".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Suna and Shea live every where in the middle east hand be hand and they never fought each other.Quote:
To be fair the respect for the order circumstances permitted did involve a little bit of blood letting and the Sunni majority tend to see the Shias as bit "iffy".
the only blood shed between suna' and shea' was in Iraq .
through centuries tehy didn't fight until lately when us army started making conspiracys between the suna and shea' and that was there plan i remember reading this somewhere.
all the Muslim big religion men " moftees " say that the fight between suna' and shea' was wrong and must stop ! but the damage already happened and blood was shed , and blood draws blood . hope they can sort things out in Iraq.
Agreed, I hope they can get things sorted out.Quote:
Originally Posted by S3v3N
I was thinking more of the original succession back in the 8th century when there was fighting over who was going to be Caliph. The Shia have an annual remembrance in Iraq to recall the blood of their martyrs (or something else) and the return of the hidden Imam. It is a bit like the Catholic Protestant thing in Christianity. A bit of fighting to begin with and now in most countries they get along fine but there are one or two areas where old rivalries still flare.Quote:
Originally Posted by S3v3N
the fight wasn't on who to be caliph ... the fight was a conspiracy.Quote:
I was thinking more of the original succession back in the 8th century when there was fighting over who was going to be Caliph. The Shia have an annual remembrance in Iraq to recall the blood of their martyrs (or something else) and the return of the hidden Imam. It is a bit like the Catholic Protestant thing in Christianity. A bit of fighting to begin with and now in most countries they get along fine but there are one or two areas where old rivalries still flare.
shea' weren't part of that fight , shea' appeared after those fights .. and they mourn the death of thousands of Muslims in Iraq in vain in those fights.
I think we have seen enough of the miracles of the Qoer'ān or القرآن al-qoer'ān, in the daily destruction, murders, bombs and threats visiting our homes through our TV sets and computers...on a daily basis; as young adolescent Moslims try to decipher, what exactly, it all means.Quote:
Originally Posted by S3v3N
When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends and deeds.
To Paraphrase Karl: "Religion is the opiate of the masses." Karl is saying that religions ambition is to create semblant hallucinations for the oppressed. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them that this is OK because they will find true happiness in the ether.
Peace, Paul
Commie
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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
:dabs:
That's just mad talk.Quote:
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