partial seeding improves your ratio - a myth

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by twist off

You download a full 4.3 gig DVD, and you let it seed for a 48 hour period, and for the sake of argument, lets say you upload 7 gigs (you constantly seed at 60 kbs). Now, you download only 500 mbs of that DVD, you let it seed for 48 hours, and people are constantly downloading this movie, and again you upload about 7 gigs (again, constantly seed at 60 kbs)...
Which helped your ratio more?

This is a plausible scenario, I've done it myself on trackers that allow partial seeding... Otherwise, I would never get out of that 48 hour hole.

---

yep total agree , see my sign lol i used partial download all the time (1.3TB from 35GB) , impossible to do if you use full download, and it will be more easy to understand if you try by your self from a 100/100mb seedbox , you will see the partial is better

partial seeding from a seed box like ruins things for others it bad enough from a home line
Aint gonna say no more on that but I hope 1 day some karma kicks in :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Duckater

partial seeding from a seed box like ruins things for others it bad enough from a home line
Aint gonna say no more on that but I hope 1 day some karma kicks in :)

---

traders who want to buffer their accounts for the next deal usually don't think a lot about karma.

So he was already not wanted in torrenting and just proved it even more :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Polarbear

that would mean that only 1.6 people downloaded the whole dvd from you, but 14 people downloaded your partial file. that's not possible when you seed with the same speed.

---

But if there are 100s of people in the swarm, more people are able to get certain files from you. Very unlikely that one person will be downloading at a constant 60 kbs and all of those 60 kbs will be coming from me (unless, of course, I'm the only seeder, and they are the only leecher - in that case, no, partial seeding wouldn't be better)... However, partial seeding very popular torrents helps your global ratio tremendously.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Duckater

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jasperr

It's my opinion that partial seeding just sucks anyways... it only benefits a single user, but hurts the torrent itself.. i've read pretty this entire thread(started skimming when peeps started repeating).. and no mentions the fact it hurts torrents.. if you have 20 peeps partial seeding one part of a torrent how the heck is someone that might actually want that torrent to watch or play or whatever gonna get the whole thing!? it's a buddy fucking mentality, for lack of better terms... personally it drives me freking crazy when peeps partial seed.. it ends up killing the torrent sooner and frustrates other users whom otherwise would contribute to the swarm.. EI: help with everyones precious buffers... i've had no real problem with seeding from my home connection at the likes of s*t and b*tm*tv ...... if you have to manage yourself, plain and simple! to many users these days want huge buffers and big e-penises that go with it like yesterday... it's been proven that peeps with 30-40k upload can have decent ratios.. notice i said ratios, not buffers.. no one needs big buffers thats a want. it promotes poor torrenting imo..

only exception is like PB had mentioned.... if it's a pack with multiple items in it and only want one thing.... other than that the whole idea is stupid

---

Yes some one else with same thoughts rather than arguing if it helps ratios or not it aint needed and does more harm than good to the torrent and other users :)

It is in a way blatent over seeding and that aint needed either :)

---

I was going to post something along the same lines .
That's why I'm against it.It's an extremely negative act.
Whether it builds ratio more or faster I really couldn't care less.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Duckater

Yes some one else with same thoughts rather than arguing if it helps ratios or not it aint needed and does more harm than good to the torrent and other users :)

It is in a way blatent over seeding and that aint needed either :)

---

I was going to post something along the same lines .
That's why I'm against it.It's an extremely negative act.
Whether it builds ratio more or faster I really couldn't care less.

---

We may not like it, but if it isn't against the specific trackers rules (hopefully most tracker staff will read this thread and do something about it), then there's not a lot we can do except live with it.

You can't blame users for exploiting a loop hole, no matter how sour it tastes, and they will do everything & anything to "buffer" and publicise gleefully how they went about it, but I do wish trackers would implement a take it 100% or leave it rule (excepting samples of course, and packs, and there may be others, but the general thrust stands).

Well on some trackers should no need any wayas they operate a no ratio policy or it is ratio per torrent/seed time not over all ratio that is important

I don't know about you guys, but whenever I see the word buffer, I think of getting a nice blowjob.

I don´t do partial download nor partial seeding.
I did it long time ago and I didn´t see any benefit on it.
But I think that besides of being not so useful it´s not fair... except if you download the sample to help yourself to know if the torrent is worth it or not.