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Originally posted by tracydani+9 December 2003 - 04:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tracydani @ 9 December 2003 - 04:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bawa@Klite_user@9 December 2003 - 10:43
Most people r using emule

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LOL, not according to the poll in the filkesharing section. Bittorrent is only 1 vote away from kazaa and all the rest don&#39;t even compare.

Just an FYI ;)

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;) That Poll was not held in MusicWorld.We all know what Program would be #1 there.

Different Programs are good for different things.

u dont get every thing on BT, only new files u can get. about emule me personaly i dont use it but from major members like paul and other MOD&#39;s use it.
me my self when i want rare files i go to kazaa but for new file i use mIRC and some when i want WWE i use BT :lol:

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Originally posted by bawa@Klite_user@9 December 2003 - 05:04
u dont get every thing on BT, only new files u can get. about emule me personaly i dont use it but from major members like paul and other MOD&#39;s use it.
me my self when i want rare files i go to kazaa but for new file i use mIRC and some when i want WWE i use BT :lol:

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:D Thats what makes this Game so fun. :D

you may not be able to get everything off of BT, but if i can get half life 2 from it, then hell, its worth it&#33;

edit&#33; if you want half life 2, and cant find anything about it here, i will be happy to provide a link via PM

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Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@7 December 2003 - 10:41
so the fasttrack network is dying because of the riaa, we all know that, they are the reason for so many leechers and people are scared to share.

now if we all run to emule like chickens, what are we suppose to do when the riaa comes after emule??? which is exactly what is going to happen as soon as the #s for emule go up.

so we just start jumping around like chickens from one client to another and lose #s as each jump takes place????

i for one am not going to stop using and sharing on klite, i do use other softwares also but i still share on klite and use it for most of my downloads.

i&#39;m not jumping this ship, i have never ran from anything and i&#39;m not about to start now. <_<

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EACH move we make, be it from Napster to Gnutella to Morpheus/Kazaa/Kazaa Lite to whatever comes next SHOULD BE a move to a more-defensible position.

RIAA WILL continue to assault us wherever we are -- and they&#39;re going to hit hard wherever the majority of users are.
However, if we are on a network which isn&#39;t so vulnerable to fakes, has better overload protection from excessive searches, has partial file sharing for LARGE files only, (anything smaller than 5 MB doesn&#39;t need it and even files of 10 MB size gain little from it) and still has the average level of file availability that old Morpheus and KL++ at its best seemed to have then we will only have to change to a new interface to share.

RIAA will have to spend MILLIONS PER MONTH just to scan the new networks with ANY degree of efficiency.

A decentralized, limited viewing (meaning you cannot search the WHOLE network in 1 go) network offers strengths that Napster NEVER had.

These networks already exist -- we just need to research which is &#39;best&#39; to route as many users here as possible.

Bit Torrent, sadly, is a POOR choice as far as file sharing is concerned because it is NOT a network -- it&#39;s only a file distribution scheme which is pretty easy to monitor and VERY easy to shut down websites hosting lots of torrents. However, its source distribution is nearly unkillable legally due to its squeaky-clean image.

E-mule is prone to horribly long queues and slow download speeds.
Gnutella is crippled by more spam attackers at the moment than even Kazaa.
Shareaza&#39;s Gnutella 2 probably won&#39;t scale... but I HOPE I&#39;m wrong there&#33;
Many of the other file-sharing programs are too specialized (music only) or too closed (DC++) to a small audience only to be of large-scale value. Even Mirc, ancient though it is, has too many limitations and too high a user learning curve IMO to recommend it to those who have trouble simply finding files on their hard drives.

Many other networks&#39; problems are simply a LACK of users that are sharing rather than a &#39;flaw&#39; in their networks.
A good sharer-to-leech ratio MUST be maintained for a network to remain &#39;fast&#39;, and this can probably only come with some forced sharing (at least partial file sharing for large files) and some ways to reward those that upload lots. The major flaw with Kazaa&#39;s PL system was even a fast uploader was penalized if they found another fast uploader who had nothing better to do than send files to him at >100 KB/sec... that&#39;d throw their PL into the crapper even though they&#39;re uploading constantly and supporting many others.

People also need to understand that these networks have tremendous overheads that the average user is blissfully unaware of. Network traffic, just to connect one another, messages, searches, etc doesn&#39;t increase your upload speed any -- and it&#39;s everyone&#39;s UPLOAD speed that the network is built on... as even 56k modems have considerably more download bandwidth than upload bandwidth. It is UPLOAD bandwidth that is SCARCE.
This is why on average broadband users shouldn&#39;t really expect to get more than about 10 KB/sec sustained constantly day in, day out.

BitTorrent SEEMS faster because many/most people only download a couple files at a time or per day and MUCH of the time are uploading after finishing their download because they FORGOT about it. With a constantly-connected network, after each upload is done another totally unrelated one will start -- meaning resources get spread MUCH thinner.

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Originally posted by REALITY@8 December 2003 - 22:09
Anybody remember ragging me for having this in my sig...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...aaQuestion.jpg

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Oh yes, I remember&#33;&#33; <evil laught> :lol: That picture, I remember seeing it back in July when I first joined this forum&#33;&#33;

I haven&#39;t been on this forum for about a week don&#39;t tell me sherman wants to cut kazaa lite because of it infringing on its copyrights. that is all bullshit and you all know it. I&#39;ve been using kazaa and kazaa lite since there conceptions and they are by far the best p2p clients I&#39;ve seen. they are the most reliable clients and the most secure. don&#39;t let sherman kill what revolutionized the p2p world man. to me, loosing k-like is like loosing audiogalaxy which was the best p2p client for its time because it had rare files that could only be found on thier network. this would be such a blow to those who have been in the p2p wolrld as long as I have and thats 8 years and counting. emule and edonkey isn&#39;t really good because its just too slow on the downloads and the network has too many fllaws. for example the credit system. how can u deny a single user because they are not sharing as much as the owners would like you to. p2p is for sharing the files that you do have and downloading more to share more.

First off, Paul get better soon&#33; Second CYA (cover your ass). If Sharman has a hard-on for you, it&#39;ll cost you thousands maybe tens of thousands of dollars. Some of you guys who AREN&#39;T earning a living don&#39;t understand. If mommy & daddy are paying your way, you don&#39;t understand the real world.

Second I&#39;m on 56K & eMule SUCKS&#33; NOTHING EVER DL&#39;s with eMule&#33; KL++ rulez until it stops working.

actually bittorrent is fairly secure, assuming you run off of private trackers, as alot of klite people are apart of now.

the big sites like suprnova, and bytemonsoon will take a hit long before our private little trackers will.

eMule wouldn&#39;t be so bad if it didn&#39;t take an hour just to connect to download something, then another hour just to download the file...it&#39;s so f&#33;@king slow <_<