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Originally posted by hobbes+20 January 2004 - 06:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 20 January 2004 - 06:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by Busyman@20 January 2004 - 06:50
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@20 January 2004 - 06:45
God, whomever you are, please forgive me my typos this night, and make me well&#33;

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It&#39;s because you are evil hobbes..EVIL I SAY&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol:

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Well, that does make sense.

If I get a nice tan, will that purify my corrupted white soul and make me better? [/b][/quote]
Yeah but in the winter........back to evilness. ;)

I didnt know mormons were racist :lol: Do they think all black people are devils or something stupid like that?

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Originally posted by Busyman+20 January 2004 - 06:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman &#064; 20 January 2004 - 06:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by hobbes@20 January 2004 - 06:53

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@20 January 2004 - 06:45
God, whomever you are, please forgive me my typos this night, and make me well&#33;

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It&#39;s because you are evil hobbes..EVIL I SAY&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol:

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Well, that does make sense.

If I get a nice tan, will that purify my corrupted white soul and make me better?

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Yeah but in the winter........back to evilness. ;)[/b][/quote]

Kind of interesting thought that tanning machines are here to conquer evil. Most people think that they are extensions of vanity, but I view them as a vehicle to keep my soul pure.

Interesting then.......what the hell is Michael Jackson? :lol: :lol:

What about those with leukoderma? They are in constant flux with themselves. :lol:

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Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@20 January 2004 - 00:04
I believe there is one God. I believe there is an after-life.

I believe that God does not interfere in our decisions because that is the deal, he gives individuals freedom to chose. He gives the whole of humanity freedom to chose what it does.

If he interfered to sort things out, or cure the illnesses, what would be the point. If you have children you let them learn how to deal with things themselves, by their own mistakes. You watch over them, but you must also allow the to grow.

I believe that wars fought over religion is merely an excuse. They would have been fought anyway, that was just a convenient reason.

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Cure illnesses whats the point?..well fine but he did at one time..according to the Bible he meddled like Hell...with angels and voices and burning bushes...and Jesus cured people left and right why? If they serve some higher purpose why didnt Jesus just say "Hey this is meant to test your strenght..God has truly blessed you with a way for you to show Him how strong your faith in Him is..."

makes no sense....


Umm....hate to say this but God told David(among others) to go to War in the Bible...So youd havta believe that some wars are because of gods will...which ones? Who knows...


just saying if we are God&#39;s kids..and he is our father..If we did our kids like he does us..we&#39;d be arrested...

Human services to God:Hey Mister your kids..there out there killing each other..
God:yeah..I know..I keep telling them Not To..But they won&#39;t Listen...
HS:Can&#39;t you do more than that?
God:Well i sent my trly Begotten Son out there to tell them....but they killed him...Of course I raised him...so thats ok
Hs:You know that they are walking around and jsut making a mess everywhere to right?(pollution)
God:Yes...They can be a handful...but I believe that since I have also created cancer and flu and ebola and all kindsa other nasty things to kill and hurt them indescriminately that it should teach them a lesson....

Hs:..


Ed

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Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1+20 January 2004 - 00:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wizard_Mon1 @ 20 January 2004 - 00:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by Spindulik@19 January 2004 - 22:40
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@19 January 2004 - 18:31
...should we all shoot ourself in the foot so we can appreciate what it feels like to get shot? Is that Gods logic?

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Apparently so, otherwise there is no God.

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where exactly did i say that? [/b][/quote]
When you said that 911 was a lesseon to teach us how prescious life is....I dont need to see 4000 people die on TV to kow how precious life is..I dont need my foot blown off(random over the top example) to know how presious my foot is...same logic progression..

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Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@20 January 2004 - 01:10
As for shooting your self in the foot, i would prefer it if you didn&#39;t but i don&#39;t know gods will, if you do the it was mean&#39;t to happen for some reason. I&#39;m not saying that shooting yourself is good or that if there is a reason for you to do so that it is nice for you, i am just saying, how are we as humans supposed to understand what god intends.

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I already know how prescious life is....

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evildon i mean&#39;t no offence i was just trying to explain that there is a lesson to be learnt or something to be gained for every situation.

hobbes what aspect of reincarnation are you interested in, i can explain the buddhist persective if you like.

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none taken...I just dont see how 911 could be some lesson..if its to tech me that Ishould escape the pain and suffeing of this world as in the post i responded to..the Christians should be killing themselves left and right..no thats a sin..so..a tru christian should become a serial killer and go around killind christians..and bear the sins of all that death knowing that he sent their souls on to heaven..thats logical..

The Killer would stalk the people make sure they were christian...then subdue them..using some type of nerve drug..ask them if they have accepted Jesus as their tru lord and savior..have them ask for forgivness of all their sins.....then kill them humanely with an insulin overdose....They go to god...then in the end after all the christians are dead..The killer could beg for forgivness on his deathbed..it would be sincere not contrite if he ACTUALLY beleved that they were going to heaven...so hed go to heaven to...if god is real and thats how u get to heaven then it would work...no more pain...of course one couldnt do it..it take some cult..


so I dont think suffering teaches any kind of useful lesson...except there is random death and pain...no higher purpose to suffering...that i can see..

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Originally posted by hobbes@20 January 2004 - 05:45
God, whomever you are, please forgive me my typos this night, and make me well&#33;

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Amen me too

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Originally posted by hobbes+20 January 2004 - 05:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 20 January 2004 - 05:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by Busyman@20 January 2004 - 06:50
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@20 January 2004 - 06:45
God, whomever you are, please forgive me my typos this night, and make me well&#33;

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It&#39;s because you are evil hobbes..EVIL I SAY&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol:

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Well, that does make sense.

If I get a nice tan, will that purify my corrupted white soul and make me better? [/b][/quote]
Can I be an Evil Minion&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;PLLLLEEEEASE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


Not a lacky.....or a sidekick mind you..I am not worthy of that..just a minion...

ED

Brought up as a "christian" untill i was old enough to make my own mind up about what i wanted to think.

Then became a "child of god" (roflmfao) for about 1 year - brainwashers annonymous.

Was a member of the mormon church for over 6 years - became an elder even - brainwashers annonymous 2.

I guess some of these start out with good enough intentions, but then something/someone changes all that....

Don&#39;t give a flying fart anymore... i just live as i wish and TRY to be as good as i possibly can - difficult here though, so if there IS a hell, then i&#39;m certainly gonna be there - if there IS a heaven, then it will remain on my list of places: "aint gotta rats ass chance of ever going there"

I&#39;ll listen to anyone who knocks on my door, up to the point when they tell me:

Only a certain number will go to heaven.
You cant drink coffe or tea.
I have to pay 10% of my income to the church.
I cant have sex outside of marriage.
I have to pray everynight for forgiveness.
I have to look east and bow down like a fool.
Push stupid beads through my fingers
etcetera etcetera...

Then i&#39;ll slam the door B)

Peace
UKMan