Given that j2 was discussing a formal hearing, it was surely appropriate to give the word it's proper meaning.
Using a dictionary is wicked for achieving that.
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Given that j2 was discussing a formal hearing, it was surely appropriate to give the word it's proper meaning.
Using a dictionary is wicked for achieving that.
If you make abusive posts, what do you expect?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Is it only abuse against moderaters that gets deleted.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx
In any case, I hardly think an observation to the tune of '... or haven't you finished making an arse of yourself' counts as abuse. More friendly banter, if you ask me.
Frankly I'm sick and tired of JPaul's repeated attempts to force his narrow and pedantic view of the English language onto other members of this forum. All he ever does is create an argument for the sake of it.
In the end everyone gives up trying to argue with him since he seems to be incapable of seeing any viewpoint other than his own. He then treats this as some sort of victory and attempts to belittle the "loser". Put in that context, it is not friendly banter, it is abusive.
As I have said to others, the posts are there to read and people can decide themselves. Oh wait a minute they aren't, they all got deleted at one point.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx
BTW the post which was deeply offensive was something along the lines of " Can I get you a bigger shovel. Or are you finished making an arse of yourself" hardly the most offensive thing I have read here, by quite some distance.
I often see other people's viewpoint and either agree or disagree with it. The fact that you do not like the way I do it is frankly of little import to me. It is quite obvious you have a problem with me, has been for some time. So it goes, life is like that.
Since you are so insistent, I've restored it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Of course, that means I will have to respond. I was trying to avoid that in an attempt to cool the situation.
You seem to think I've conceded something. The only thing I've conceded is your inability to acknowledge that words can have more than one meaning, a situation I raised initially but with a small grammatical slip as pointed out by Manker.
What a sad world you must occupy, with words having only one rigid definition and no leeway for expansion of language. I suspect you may be happier with Latin, dead like it's originators.
But wait, since you are probably happier with it, let's look at the Latin origins of the word refute - refutare, to repel. Nothing about proof there. I think you may be confusing the word with confute, a word with similar meaning but requiring the inclusion of proof.
Keep the shovel for yourself, you are doing a fine job.
I have nothing against you personally, I don't even know you ffs, but I don't like the "la la la I'm not listening, this is the only truth" trick you often resort to. Repeating the same words over and over again doesn't make them true so don't try it on me, it won't work. Or attack me again if you like, better men than you have tried and failed.
I think you'll find that YOU told j2 that the word meant something different in the UK.
It was therefore YOU who was narrow minded about the meaning of the word.
And it was YOU who was being pedantic about it.
Please read your own posts.
Refute
SourceQuote:
1513, "refuse, reject," from L. refutare "drive back, repress, repel, rebut," from re- "back" + -futare "to beat," probably from PIE base *bhat- "to strike down" (cf. beat). Meaning "prove wrong" dates from 1545. Since c.1964 linguists have frowned on the subtle shift in meaning towards "to deny," as it is used in connection with allegation.
Repetition, repetition, repetition.
Are you saying it doesn't have another meaning? If so, you are wrong.
The UK emphasis is on denial, I have assumed (since I am not an American) that the US emphasis in on proof. I've already dealt with that issue (if you bother to read my posts).
Once again you repeat this "do you ever read your own posts" nonsense. It is a good way to try to convince others who may be new to this thread (and perhaps to delude yourself) that I haven't covered the matter, but since both they and you can go back and read them I can't understand why you keep coming out with this tripe.
Perhaps you should reprogram your hotkey, it clearly is not generating the quality of garbage you expect.
Feck sake we have an entomologist (:naughty: where's mangit)