War of the Worlds

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Originally Posted by Peerzy

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I don't know the where some of you get this American patriotic stuff from besides the fact our military is fighting them. ID4 had this big time but with this movie, it's was pretty much nonexistent.

....and wtf is wrong with some of you? Ya got an inferiority complex or sumthin'?

If the movie takes place in America it doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't matter. IT MEANS THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN AMERICA. I didn't feel slighted 'cause the aliens didn't blow up the White House.

Get a fucking life.

It's an American made movie ffs. A European company could have bought the rights and made set the movie in the small village of WelshChesHorshire for all I care and I doubt Americans would have given a shit.

Btw, shields were mentioned in a news broadcast of something early in the movie.

And after all this....

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1. Cruise's ex-wife's brownstone was conveniently immaculate.

2. The things were in the ground all this fucking time like fucking cicadas. So no one noticed a huge hulking metal mass...phone company, water and sewer, construction folk?

3. The aliens looked like the one's from ID4.

4. The son should have been dead...if just for his stupidity alone...and the fact that our military got there ass engulfed by a huge fireball...and uh..he was with 'em.

5. Why would Tom NOT talk to his son, daughter, and especially the mechanic about the impending disaster...it's fucking stupid.

6. I knew the son was going to fuck up when it was his turn to drive. If he saw a rack of people, he should have turned his ass around. Tom should have run over the lady and her kid. He also should have picked up his gun.

7. Kudos for Tom killing Shawshank (really :clap: ) but conveniently leaving his daughter alone while alien eyes prowl about.
There ya go.

8. Kudos for also assuming you can go to sleep with no one keeping watch simply because the aliens came in the basement before. They couldn't possibly come again. They already checked and they said, "All clear". :dry:

9. The machines had not one but two asshole sphincters. However they were gay alien machines 'cause they liked it one way and that way was inward. :sick: They practically ate with their ass...es.

10. I'll say it. His daughter was a dipshit. If you get scared, you don't run upstairs to where the aliens are. When you do shit like that, you get yourself and you father placed in an alien rectum. :sick:

11. If there's an alien invasion, you don't stop to conversate with an old fuck partner. You get on the damn boat. Fucking may proceed after which you avoid being vaporized. :1eye:

12. How many fucking times...during an alien invasion does a motherfucker have to point up to the sky (you know...where the aliens are) for a trained soldier to take a look (you know....follow the pointing finger). "Look at the birds...ya dipshit. L-O-O-K U-P.......YESYES..U-P YA DIPSHIT!!!".

13. They shat/bled Fanta Orange....or was it SunKist? Everytime a tripod was shot or had diarrhea, I got thirsty.

14. Btw, it was mighhhhhhty convenient that when Tom was driving his minivan...past everyone else that was stranded on the road..he had a nice, however winding, clear path to ease on down the road.

This also occured after the Donnie Darko/FirstEpisodeLost moment. He just drove away...debris nicely parted for him like a bad haircut.

....the movie was still good besides the fact...it actually should have been more focused on blowing shit up but I think they wanted to utilize Tom Cruise more in the acting department.

I love the scene where all the clothes are falling out of the sky btw.

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Thing is, no other country exists in the movie. It would be like the movie Pearl Harbor but insted of bombing Japan, they bomb a different part of America cause they got lost, and then America fights back against....America :blink:

Also they changed the location dramatically. It would be like taking Lord Of The Flies and setting it in New York.

The kid also wants to be a patriotic hero and goes off into the big ball of fire to fight and die, only you find out at the end thats not the case and he magically knew where his mum was and such.

What happend in Europe? What happened in Aisa? What happened in Africa? What happened in South America? What happened in Oceania? All you get to see is the story of one invinceable man sit in some cave for 20 minutes then come out and America has won the war pritty much.

It's stupid that just because its an American film, means the whole story has to have American values, all the actors have to be American, the settings have to be American, there can be no anti-American views in the film and so on.

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Sorry Peerzy but to me it makes sense that the film is set in America. HG Wells wanted to show his reader the arrogance of the superpowers in both his aliens and how easily a super-industrial-power (like America, or England in his novel) could be bought to its knees. I guess Spielburg copped out a bit by throwing in the European comment but I just dismissed that as a character in the film giving inaccurate information (not that it is that important).

To be honest there wasn't much flag waving patriosm in this film and in the context of seeing the whole film through TC's eyes and his family's it would have made no sense to cut to what was happening in England/Japan/Australia.

I don't think you can claim that the film ends with America being declared the victor because it is obvious that bacteria is what killed the aliens. All in all it wasn't as nauseting as Idenpendence Day, there were a couple of bits that Europeans will roll their eyes up at but nothing anyone should get too wound up about.

The film itself does end badly though. The last 20 minutes drag and TC becomes an action hero to take out a tripod. But the worst bit by far was the boy surviving. Sentimental crap, everyone else in the film gets killed but this whole family survives? Yeah, right...

By the way if the film had been set in the Middle East then the aliens would have been in trouble. Suicide bombers vrs Tripods? The suicide bomber just waits until he's been caught by a tripod and getting taken inside and detonates...:pinch of salt:

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Originally Posted by Fake Shemp

By the way if the film had been set in the Middle East then the aliens would have been in trouble. Suicide bombers vrs Tripods? The suicide bomber just waits until he's been caught by a tripod and getting taken inside and detonates...:pinch of salt:

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Verrrry good point. However, in a war such as this, there would be many suicide bombers in many countries (once the :shit: (pun intended) was figured out).

Think of the small sacrifice. There weren't that many tripods per capita.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I don't know the where some of you get this American patriotic stuff from besides the fact our military is fighting them. ID4 had this big time but with this movie, it's was pretty much nonexistent.

....and wtf is wrong with some of you? Ya got an inferiority complex or sumthin'?

If the movie takes place in America it doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't matter. IT MEANS THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN AMERICA. I didn't feel slighted 'cause the aliens didn't blow up the White House.

Get a fucking life.

It's an American made movie ffs. A European company could have bought the rights and made set the movie in the small village of WelshChesHorshire for all I care and I doubt Americans would have given a shit.

Btw, shields were mentioned in a news broadcast of something early in the movie.

And after all this....

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1. Cruise's ex-wife's brownstone was conveniently immaculate.

2. The things were in the ground all this fucking time like fucking cicadas. So no one noticed a huge hulking metal mass...phone company, water and sewer, construction folk?

3. The aliens looked like the one's from ID4.

4. The son should have been dead...if just for his stupidity alone...and the fact that our military got there ass engulfed by a huge fireball...and uh..he was with 'em.

5. Why would Tom NOT talk to his son, daughter, and especially the mechanic about the impending disaster...it's fucking stupid.

6. I knew the son was going to fuck up when it was his turn to drive. If he saw a rack of people, he should have turned his ass around. Tom should have run over the lady and her kid. He also should have picked up his gun.

7. Kudos for Tom killing Shawshank (really :clap: ) but conveniently leaving his daughter alone while alien eyes prowl about.
There ya go.

8. Kudos for also assuming you can go to sleep with no one keeping watch simply because the aliens came in the basement before. They couldn't possibly come again. They already checked and they said, "All clear". :dry:

9. The machines had not one but two asshole sphincters. However they were gay alien machines 'cause they liked it one way and that way was inward. :sick: They practically ate with their ass...es.

10. I'll say it. His daughter was a dipshit. If you get scared, you don't run upstairs to where the aliens are. When you do shit like that, you get yourself and you father placed in an alien rectum. :sick:

11. If there's an alien invasion, you don't stop to conversate with an old fuck partner. You get on the damn boat. Fucking may proceed after which you avoid being vaporized. :1eye:

12. How many fucking times...during an alien invasion does a motherfucker have to point up to the sky (you know...where the aliens are) for a trained soldier to take a look (you know....follow the pointing finger). "Look at the birds...ya dipshit. L-O-O-K U-P.......YESYES..U-P YA DIPSHIT!!!".

13. They shat/bled Fanta Orange....or was it SunKist? Everytime a tripod was shot or had diarrhea, I got thirsty.

14. Btw, it was mighhhhhhty convenient that when Tom was driving his minivan...past everyone else that was stranded on the road..he had a nice, however winding, clear path to ease on down the road.

This also occured after the Donnie Darko/FirstEpisodeLost moment. He just drove away...debris nicely parted for him like a bad haircut.

....the movie was still good besides the fact...it actually should have been more focused on blowing shit up but I think they wanted to utilize Tom Cruise more in the acting department.

I love the scene where all the clothes are falling out of the sky btw.

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Are you some new type of idiot? :huh: Read this spoiler below......

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Originally Posted by Peerzy

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Thing is, no other country exists in the movie. It would be like the movie Pearl Harbor but insted of bombing Japan, they bomb a different part of America cause they got lost, and then America fights back against....America :blink:

The movie takes place AN AMERICAN POINT OF VIEW. D.D.D.DAMN!! Your example means shit. Have you seen Enemy At The Gates?

Also they changed the location dramatically. It would be like taking Lord Of The Flies and setting it in New York.

No it's not. It's like taking Lord Of The Flies and setting it in AnyislandinEastJaBlipWestOfBubbleFuck.

The kid also wants to be a patriotic hero and goes off into the big ball of fire to fight and die, only you find out at the end thats not the case and he magically knew where his mum was and such.

Wow. I've seen that in almost every war movie made, non-American ones too and even. :ohmy: It's simply called wanting to fight.

What happend in Europe? What happened in Aisa? What happened in Africa? What happened in South America? What happened in Oceania? All you get to see is the story of one invinceable man sit in some cave for 20 minutes then come out and America has won the war pritty much.

Damn I kinda missed that epic tale in the original, ya know, what happened in Oceania. :ermm: Maybe we will see more in the sequels.

It's stupid that just because its an American film, means the whole story has to have American values, all the actors have to be American, the settings have to be American, there can be no anti-American views in the film and so on.

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Well the film was made for entertainment and not for Peerzy's anti-American views to pop in. The plot of film seem to be okay without it.
The setting was American but what "American values"? If the setting is America wouldn't there be American's in it...or does Peerzy feel left out.

Get a life and stop watching AMERICAN movies then.

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

Obviously the Japanese had help from Godzilla and those giant robots they seem to love so much. :lol:

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It's a good movie all round, especially the starting and the middle parts, the ending just plain sucked (way too rushed).

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You are kind of contradicting yourself in that sentence. ;)

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Not really, just badly put. I'm trying to say it's a good movie, it would have been BETTER if the ending wasn't so rushed, the ending was abrupt. The movie tried so hard to not let TC be a hero and make the movie cliched and I loved that they tried for 3/4 of the film, but then they said "ah fuck it. lets just make our lives easier and make him a hero" that really ticked me off. If they could have done what they were doing the whole film till the end, then this movie woulda been excellent but then Spielberg decides to give TC a bunch of grenades and says "ok now act like your Tony Montana..." :dry: But still, very good movie if you can put up with the ending.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by Fake Shemp

By the way if the film had been set in the Middle East then the aliens would have been in trouble. Suicide bombers vrs Tripods? The suicide bomber just waits until he's been caught by a tripod and getting taken inside and detonates...:pinch of salt:

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Verrrry good point. However, in a war such as this, there would be many suicide bombers in many countries (once the :shit: (pun intended) was figured out).

Think of the small sacrifice. There weren't that many tripods per capita.

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Obviously this only works if all tripods are assigned to gather people up. Perhaps there were harvester units and all out war units roaming America (and the rest of the world of course ;) ).

So these aliens weaknesses were bacteria and having grenades shoved up their butts? :lol:

LMFAO, this reminds me of something my friend said when the movie ended, it was hilarious. The ending (to him [and me to some extent]) was so rushed and abrupt he didn't really understand it.

Morgan Freeman tells of how the aliens were defeated, end credits start to roll
Friend: "So wait, Internal Affairs knew that he was with the FBI?"

Laughed a little to hard after hearing that, almost choked on popcorn....

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Originally Posted by Fake Shemp

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Verrrry good point. However, in a war such as this, there would be many suicide bombers in many countries (once the :shit: (pun intended) was figured out).

Think of the small sacrifice. There weren't that many tripods per capita.

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Obviously this only works if all tripods are assigned to gather people up. Perhaps there were harvester units and all out war units roaming America (and the rest of the world of course ;) ).

So these aliens weaknesses were bacteria and having grenades shoved up their butts? :lol:

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They used the humans for power. It was the Matrix all over again.

what does it say on my copy it goes "the moment they landed and brathed out air" then goes silent

any help on this would be great

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showt...t=96817&page=1