I think some of us, reading into the matrix, a little to much. Although I do enjoy reading this thread and how every else's opinions about the movie.
:rolleyes:
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I think some of us, reading into the matrix, a little to much. Although I do enjoy reading this thread and how every else's opinions about the movie.
:rolleyes:
Noooo... I thought we've been through this before.Quote:
Originally posted by MenderOne@27 May 2003 - 01:49
He has grown tired of Neo and want's to stop him himself, ("Never send a boy to do a Man's job" so to speak), as all other's have failed to stop Neo from ruining his creation.
Bane was the guy that Agent Smith infected. Bane is the guy that cut his hand with the knife and was going to kill Neo in the real world. Bane is that guy that, when the council was asking for volunteers to go find the Neb, leaned forward to his captain and said something like, "We should go." Bane was the only survivor of the defensive line of hovercraft that the Squiddies tore through, because he (supposedly) set off an EMP prematurely. Bane was the guy laying unconscious on the table across from Neo...
see pictures above... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I stand corrected...they made much more than expected :D Although I still do expect a ignificant drop-off domestically (which it already showed this weekend) but well...heres the facts:
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Warner Bros. Pictures International exploded through box-office records around the world when the international rollout of The Matrix Reloaded resulted in a $113.2 million weekend for that division of the Studio, making the movie the first ever in the industry to break the $100 million mark internationally in one weekend. The announcement was made today by Veronika Kwan-Rubinek, President of Distribution, and Sue Kroll, President of Marketing for Warner Bros. Pictures International.
Total overseas receipts for The Matrix Reloaded have now reached $154 million. Forty-nine countries opened this weekend and 13 other countries were in their second weekend of release, for a total of 62 countries currently showing the picture on 8,924 prints. Japan, expected to be the biggest international market for The Matrix Reloaded, does not open until June 7.
This weekend, the UK grossed GBP 12.1m ($19.8m) from 919 prints, marking the territory's fourth-biggest opening of all time, behind Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone and Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. This represents a particularly outstanding result considering the 15 rating, which prohibits anyone under the age of 15 from entering the theater, with or without adult accompaniment. "Reloaded" is the UK's biggest "15" rated movie of all time.
In Germany, where the film received a "16" rating, the gross of EUR 12.1m ($14.1m) from 1,124 prints also marks a record-breaking result as the industry's sixth-highest in that territory, and the only film among all top 10 openers to have a rating restriction as high as 16.
Spain, with EUR 6.0m ($7.0m) from 528 prints, is the second-highest opening of all time there, trailing only "The Two Towers," which had a five-day opening weekend.
Italy grossed EUR 5.8m ($6.7m) from 723 prints for its biggest opening day of all time, its biggest May opening and sixth-highest opening weekend ever.
Scandinavia tallied a $6.4m opening, which gave Sweden and Norway their third-biggest opening weekends, and Denmark and Finland their fifth-biggest opening weekends.
Korea grossed Won 7.5b ($5.9m) from 230 prints, which is that country's biggest opening weekend ever. Records were also set for Korea's biggest sneak grosses, as well as individual Friday, Saturday and Sunday grosses.
Mexico marked its all-time second-highest opening weekend with Ps 50.8m ($4.9m) from 530 prints.
Russia tallied a Rbls 102.5m ($3.3m) opening weekend from 157 prints, which represents the country's biggest opening weekend in history.
Brazil grossed L/C 7.9m ($2.8m) from 390 prints, which represents the fourth-highest opening weekend in U.S. dollars. However, currency fluctuations in that country make accurate industry records difficult to ascertain.
Additional records for the biggest opening weekend ever were set in Israel, South Africa, Portugal, the German side of Switzerland, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Bulgaria, Latvia, Romania, Slovakia and the Ukraine.
Second-weekend markets continued to hold well. France, which opened last weekend, dropped 24% with weekend grosses of EUR 7.6m ($8.8m), and Australia grossed A$6m ($3.9m) for its biggest second weekend Saturday ever. Belgium dropped 27%, Holland dropped 23% and New Zealand dropped 34%.
"We are extremely pleased to see that the responses have been so positive that not even the film's restrictive rating in various markets has kept it from breaking records. A 15 or 16 rating in the UK and Germany, respectively, means that children under this age cannot attend the movie even if accompanied by an adult," said Veronika Kwan-Rubinek. "To be in release in 61 markets within two weeks of the United States is an enormous challenge in terms of logistics, but we are thrilled that we were able to successfully manage it, thereby capitalizing on the exceptional international anticipation for this film."
"We could not be more pleased with the reception that 'The Matrix Reloaded' is getting around the world," enthused Sue Kroll. "As we've traveled through Europe and Japan on our launch campaign, we've experienced a tremendous reception for the movie, from Cannes through London and now Tokyo. There is a great sense of event about the arrival of this long-anticipated picture that has translated to both critical and popular reception in country after country."
I for one really enjoyed it, equally as good as the first one imo. I feel sorry for anyone who let the hype spoil it for them. It totally threw everything we thought about the matrix from the first film on it's head.
I loved all the little things/plot threads in there, the oracle being all part of the system, the roque programs, the personification of everyday programs (eg. keymaker).
I'm surprised so many people seemed to have trouble with the Architect scene, it made sense of so many things for me. Maybe the wall of monitors was too distracting.
Sure, there were downsides but I went for the ride and had a blast. :D
As a film, it was mediocre at best. As a collection of action set pieces it was great. The scenes in Zion were awful, like a cross between Battlestar Galactica and the Ewok Village. Laurence Fishburne's acting throughout the film was hammy and way, way over the top. Jada Pinkett proved once again that she can't act for shit. Keanu was as wooden as ever - the Wachowski Brothers must be gutted that they didn't hire a better actor for the first film. I guess they were lumbered with Keanu because of the success of the first film. It was overly-intellectual without actually saying anything very deep.
Monica Bellucci's character fed on the emotion of love and needed the kisses to get the feeling of being loved herself however fleetingly. The game Enter the Matrix has more scenes regarding this "emotional vampirism". ;)
The car-chase scene has got to be some of the best action cinema EVER!! Bullit and French Connection have nothing on this one. The rule book has been rewritten, shredded, converted to e-book, typed back out into English and then thrown away. I loved it when Trinity turned the Ducati around and went into oncoming traffic. Scarily fast. :(
Revolutions had better be good or else!!! :angry:
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Keanu was as wooden as ever - the Wachowski Brothers must be gutted that they didn't hire a better actor for the first film. I guess they were lumbered with Keanu because of the success of the first film
So who would be better >>? arnold or stalone or maybe tom cruse or ur dad
THINK !
get out just get out
ha ha ha ha ha :lol:
Well no Silvercrow...none of those actors would be better...I mean none of those actors would be better for the part...and the problem isnt with the actor they chose...its with the character itself. Neo is supossed to be dark..drab...and almost emotionless...thats why they chose Keanu Reeves for the part....he does the hollow characters very well..which was a good idea. The problem is that creating a main character like that alienates most of your targeted audience...they feel no emotional ties to the character...and therefore dont enjoy the film as much. Just my opinion though.Quote:
Originally posted by silverccrow@28 May 2003 - 04:50
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Keanu was as wooden as ever - the Wachowski Brothers must be gutted that they didn't hire a better actor for the first film. I guess they were lumbered with Keanu because of the success of the first film
So who would be better >>? arnold or stalone or maybe tom cruse or ur dad
THINK !
get out just get out
ha ha ha ha ha :lol:
Wow, my thread fuckin ownz... lol...
Sorry, been away for a few days, glad to see this baby still going strong... biggest post in any of the worlds isnt it? wow...
Any, few comments.
Actor wise... neo fits the storyline perfectly... the alienating of the fans, and the little emotion by neo, is how it was written, not how its acted. Keanue given more room, could surely get us feeling for him more, but thats not what his character is about.
Come on guys, who honestly believes that these films will finish badly?!
I havnt read the book but i presume they DO end up throwing the stupid ass ring in the mountain at the end of ROTK, whatever happens.
Also in Revolutions, they arnt going to make 3 movie blockbusters just for it to finish with all the members of zion lying dead and the destruction of every human being (as the architect put it) in the universe.
Same with T3, the machines will all be defeated, dont u think !!?
Does anyone not agree with me?!!
I mean ok im still going to see the movies but we already know whats going to happen in them !!!!!
yes now u can die happy
Well what are you complaining down? Movies have been like this for the past few hundred years most people want to have a happy ending to a movie/story but they are twisting the endings a lot around nowdays the main characters are dying in the end their isn't always a happy ending. But people don't want to see that they want to see a good movie with a lot happening in between and have it evenly balanced throughout the movie then have the hero win at the end why do you think comic characters, wrestling etc . . . are so popular nowdays. If you don't like the endings of these movies it's simple don't watch them!
I have an idea on why smith took over that bloke with the goatee and then used to the hardline to "seemingly escape" the matrix.
What is the thing that smith wants the most? It is to kill Neo. Well as Smith knows he cannot destroy Neo in the Matrix as Neo is far more powerful. He merged into a body and then hardlined out so that he could kill Neo OUTSIDE the Matrix. As this is the only possible way he can do it as Neo and Smith are both "only human"
Another possibility is that the Architect said that they are getting more efficient and are finding more ways to get rid of the anomoly (Neo) So Smith becoming new and not an agent and being able to replicate himself is all set up by the Matrix/Architect as a new and improved way of getting rid of "the one" because in the first Matrix Neo destroyed Smith. The Matrix brang Smith back as it was a good idea and could use him for other ways. e.g. maybe smith is a backup a barebone with no real code, sort of like a worm virus.
So now the Matrix brang back Smith to be a sort of assassin and get out of the Matrix to kill Neo outside. Something to back this up further was Smith trying to replicate himself over Morpheous. Because if Smith could get outside the Matrix in Morpheouses body then he would have no trouble in killing Neo.
Anyway thats enough thinking for me for one day... ;)
no need to be cheeky.
i do like them and i do watch them.
sometimes it might be ok for the bad guy to win, thats all.....
Such as 24, great series, bad things actually happen in it, such as Jack's wife dying and the President getting a gammy hand.
Bit off topic but im binned what do you expect.
well i hope more happens in Revolutions and not so much complete inane babbling throughout the whole film.
I understand the whole idea of the matrix is philosophical, but it was ridiculous the language that was used in it. the idea of it also is that there is cool ass robots trying to kill people in cool ways. lets see more of that stuff !!!
What is there......3 or 4 major good action scenes in Reloaded?
Ok one is the immense highway scence but the rest....left a wee bit to be desired, and i reckon there could have been more use of bullet time and action scences.
Dont get me wrong though, i enjoyed the film. Not worth paying to see again in the cinema, tho.
the centropy copy will suffice for now :D
I can reveal couple of mysteries. :P
Architect is actually Bill Gates
What is the Matrix? It is Windows XXXP
jk
Cool talking going on in this tread, i'll be watching the movie again, and a gain... :D
...if i come up with some stuff you guys have not, i'll post it in here.
Cheers:
-GS-
what i think is Zion is actually another matrix!!! like another layer of code, which at the opening credits you see the screen go into the code, then another, then the watch.
aslo at the end of the film when neo stops the sentinels he says "Somethings different" and stops the sentinels, because he knows he's still in a matrix, another layer of it anyway.
When the Architect babbles on he says that "we (the machines) have been destroying zion for ages" or summin like that, so i think the Matrix developed another layer, with Zion in so they can run training progs to figure the best way to destroy the REAL Zion.
When Bane is overwritten by Smith at the beginning, Smith stays in Banes mind when he leaves, so when bane is cutting himself its actually Smith, like hes seeing what HUMAN emotion is like.
The Wachowski brothers said that there was no Matrix within a Matrix. But it isnt like there is a big Matrix Little Matrix. Its two Matrixes parallell to each other, never dirrectly touching each other. See so like, the matrix that NEO and everyone inhabits is actually like another Layer or Parallel version
THIS BASICALLY SUMS IT ALL UP FOR YOUQuote:
the matrix within the matrix stuff is shown to us in the first 30seconds of the movie look at the pull back through the code layers on the intro one pulls back to another layer of code then pulls back to the clock in the guards offices.
and this is just confirmed when he stops the sentinal end the end of the film "somethings changed".
As for all this bane smith stuff
yes smith jumped systems in to bane or the zion system why because he has gone rogue or just doing his job (read on).
If you look at systems as a whole here we go
the neo program is a bug but a required bug for the system to function correctly, the bug/neo is controlled/guide back to the source/core after a set time cycle to do 2 things reset/reload the matrix and zero the fault.
So the program can run again
it,s like error build up
Smith is the system way of trying to counter act this fault now here is the clever bit as neo gets strong/greater/smarter so will smith to counter act him.
but in reloaded the matrix failed to reboot so now we have moved passed all the fail safes of the system and on to virgin territory and now have an unstable system Why be cause the neo program has learned how to over ride the protection/ the random factor.
i have done this kind of error control on programs i have written for control systems the errors build up you can,t get ride of it but you can counter act it and then when a set time or tolerance is reached you reset the system normally manually by reboot. and ever thing start again
where i find the matrix fun is they have used standard system pricples and applied to a film script.
remmeber it,s machines we are dealing with.
zion is another error loop for minor errors people who really will not take the program but the neo program is the major bug they could not program out .
if you want to go into more depth about why smith replicants and more system stuff read Godel,Escher and Bach.... it all in there
oh man that better not be the ending. no way...its just far too obvious?! there is no way they are goin to let us walk into the cinema and then just show us what we already know.
the previous two matrix films have both shocked and suprised, and i doubt that the third is goin to be any less confusing and suprising as its prequals....
ull walk in thinkin 'yea i know wats goin on, i know wats gonna happen' ull walk out thinkin 'ok.....wtf ?!!!!'
HOPEFULLY!!! Ham
Im sure there will be some shocks, a few surprises.
the story of the matrix at the moment lacks any real depth, people are just plucking at strings here. it changes too much and doesnt make any sense at the moment. thats the point, itll all become aparant in november :angry:
But itll all finish with neo fuckin trinity in a meadow somewhere surrounded by beautiful sunshine :) .
ROTK will rule its ass...easy.
altho im sure itll be a classic.
people do not identify with neo beacause people dont live a hacker live thats why all of u dont realize this film is great
just think for a moment a hacker as a superhero thats right out of this world thats why i love this movie it has a lot osf sense 2 me binary shit and everything like trinity hacking in linux
that was great if u understand hacking u will now that the program that trinity use 2 hack the terminal really exists
amazing isnt ! ;)
"hackers"? that is ridiculous. anyone and everyone thinks they are a hacker.
I for one wouldt mind being one, but have never tried, nor will i ever.
you are just silly. stop it. stop being silly.
really :)
hackers are quite nerdy and cool at the same time im sure, i have no idea. but im adament that YOU are not one
if silvercrow is a "true" hacker, then I am Michael Jordans protege, and am about to join the NBA via free agency.
go for it schmiggy !!! ull make it !!!! :D
:P
in other news... isnt the dvd for reloaded due out before the release of revolutions? or am i mistaken?
Hmmm...youd think that would be the logical thing to do...but apparantly they may be re-releasing the film a little before Revolutions hits.
didnt think about that....
nice little money-spinner for 'em.
Bit like LOTR i suppose, re-releasing FOTR just as TT was out.
Probably get more revenue than DVD sales....u think?
The whole film seems to reek of a dichotomy between western and eastern philosophies. The only way the third film can really end is for neo to die. Thus ecsaping the futility of repeating (a symbolized) circle of life i.e. if he did 'reboot' the matrix for it all to start again, instead ataining true enlightnement and reaching a state of 'oneness' with everyting. While zion represents the path of enlightenment and not enlightenment itself. As any student of zen can tell you that if you know you have atained enlightenment then you cannot be enlightened. Similair to the oracles keeper who stated that you can only know someone by fighting them and not through intellectual debate i.e. asking is he is the one.
The concept of the film is very clever however I felt a bit let down by reloaded. The fact that we never see anyone racing to a phone to get out of the matrix took away a lot of the excitement which the original had. Also, why was it now possible for everyone to 'have a go' at the agents when they were practically unstoppable by everyone excpet neo in the original.
Although you have to hand it to the fight directors and teacher for the improvement they made to the actors ability. Compare the original scene of neo fighting morpheus in the original compared to the technique Keanu displays when fighting the oracles keeper. A vast difference in ability there. Although at times it just looked like an excuse for them to display a vast array of fighting styles. Plus check out all the openings created which are never taken advantage of.
I beg to differ , if you look at the last two pictures good , I would say that there DEFINITELY are similarities :rolleyes:(roll up and down between the two pics a few times and look at the facial structure)Quote:
Originally posted by kylman5000@27 May 2003 - 05:00
For all you guys who cant see it upright, and to end it all!!!
http://members.cox.net/kylman5000/untitled2.png
Bing (the guy in neo's dream, and who cut his hand)
http://members.cox.net/kylman5000/untitled4.png
Its not a younger him.
http://members.cox.net/kylman5000/untiled3.png
I think the bone structure of his face is different...
its not him
you cant see the eyes good enough in those pictures.
Lol, I just realized something.
You know the annoying kid, that follows Neo and Trinity around in Zion and stops Bane(Smith?!) from stabbing Neo?
I was wondering; where did that character come from, what's he doing there?
Actually he's a character from an Animatrix episode 'Kid's Story'!
Go watch it, you'll soon see the similarities.
Don't you just love all those cross-references the Wachowsky brothers made!
Makes you wonder if they have any other in store for us.
Bane's forehead is much wider than The Architect's forehead. Bane's head starts wide at the top and gets smaller as you go down. The Architect's is roughly the same width all the way down. The Architect's face is also a fair bit taller than Bane's.Quote:
Originally posted by MenderOne@29 May 2003 - 19:20
I beg to differ , if you look at the last two pictures good , I would say that there DEFINITELY are similarities :rolleyes:(roll up and down between the two pics a few times and look at the facial structure)
You people need to look at other human beings more often. ...or just check the damn movie credits. ;)
NotoriousBIC, another reference is when they know that the machines are digging, theyre talking abt the osiris giving them this information. If uve seen the final flight theyll show u about the osiris.
And then again, i heard from others saying that the mother of the matrix was not the oracle but the woman that was telling the story in the second renassaince.well who knows?
i dont think anyone knows as of yet.
the story is a complete mesh of complexities at the moment, almost impossible to understand, which i presume is the way thos bro's wanted it.
im sure the story will all fit into place come November.
or then again maybe not...
I knew that already, that's an obvious one. I saw Final Flight ages ago.Quote:
Originally posted by Hazzy Hazz@30 May 2003 - 09:20
NotoriousBIC, another reference is when they know that the machines are digging, theyre talking abt the osiris giving them this information. If uve seen the final flight theyll show u about the osiris.
But the Kid's story is not so obvious.
Talking about crossreferencing. In Final Flight the Osiris drops it's last transmission and in the game Enter the Matrix you (the player) must retrieve it from the post-office and deliver it to Zion. Which in turn is referenced in Reloaded.
also in the game, there is a new oricle.... i think in real life the actor died and so they have had 2 replace her in the new film and in the game as well. the bro's however have made it look like they have replaced the oricle on prupose, she says something about how they discovered the identity of her old shell, and so she had 2 give it up and find a new 1.
if you watch the revolutions trailer at the end of the film as well, you get to hear her voice
Ha ha ha ha ha ha iam not a hacker who tell u that
Iam a normal person but iam programer thats all i am not a hacker the best i can do is download cracks for my programs thats all
But i know people who really knows about that and yeah everyone try to be a hacker like neo sometimes.
do not hide ur fellings !
do not believe everythig they say !
U r the one U move the world not they ! B)
not sure if this has been posted before on any of these forums but i'm gonna post it anyways.
:P
a friend of mine show me this site moviemistakes.com i dunno how credible these movie mistakes are cause of course i have yet to verify them myself, but i think the site does check before the said mistake was posted on their site. it's a great site with hundreds of thousands of movies, old and new alike. i dunno about you but it makes me wanna watch the movie again to catch these mistakes. anywho, here goes. matrix reloaded movie mistakes. some of these are obvious, while most are not.
Further to the comment about some of the Smith clones not having Hugo Weaving's face pasted onto them, just after Neo does his back flip into two agents whilst kicking the two either side of him, just after he turns back around towards the camera, there is a very obvious stuntman standing just behind him who looks absolutely nothing like Agent Smith.
During the car chase, one of the Twins shoots at a car behind them to get it out of the way - the right side of the windscreen (as we look at it) is peppered with holes. From another angle, they disappear, only to reappear as it swerves away. Submitted by Jon Sandys
In the Chateau where Neo fights the Merovingian's men, after the men shoot at Neo, only to have their bullets stopped, they all drop their guns. Throughout the rest of the scene, the guns are nowhere to be found.
When Trinity is about to jump down with the keymaker to the bikes in the freeway scene, she is on the left side of the keymaker. When you see them in mid-air, she's suddenly to the right of him.
When the twin leaves the car that Trinity is driving, he is standing on the freeway by himself. You see a flat-bed truck, then a police car, then a red van pass him by. But when they show the shot ahead of him, the truck is still there, but the cop car and the red van are nowhere to be seen.
In the car chase scene when the Twin enters the car with Morpheus, Trinity and the keymaker the camera view changes between aerial shots and shots from in the car. In the aerial shots the road behind them is completely empty. From the shots in the car you can see several cars behind them through the windows.
In the freeway scene, during the part with one of the twins in the back of the car fighting Morpheus, one shot shows the twin puting a knife against the keymakers throat. If you look out of the rear window, you will see a white van. Then there is a quick shot of Trinity. When the camera cuts back to the twin and the keymaker, the white van is gone and is replaced by a black van.
In the scene after Neo catches the falling Trinity and he takes the bullet out of her she dies and Neo pulls her close to his chest. When the shot changes to matrix code and he reaches in to massage her heart and revive her, her body is lying perfectly flat, when it cuts back he is still holding her almost upright to his chest.
In the freeway scene, Morpheus fights an agent. Right before Morpheus gets knock off onto Niobe's car, you see Morpheus land and lose his balance on the left side of the back of the truck, but when there is a shot of Morpheus falling off the truck, he is falling off the centre.
In the highway, when the agent in the police car jumps to another car and flips it over, the wheels keep turning, then there's a quick slow motion and we see the wheels completely motionless, and in the next scene the car is again flying and the wheels are turning around.
As in the first film, the Agents are firing .50 caliber Desert Eagles. The Agent in the police car fires several shots that hit the car door right next to Trinity. A shot from a Desert Eagle would not only go through the car door, it would probably go through Trinity and hit Morpheus as well.
When Trinity turns her bike around at the freeway and starts speeding in the wrong direction, you see a bunch of police cruisers entering the freeway on the wrong direction as well via a freeway exit (you even see the arrows and the sign that says exit), this happens almost instantly after Trinity turns around, implying they knew before hand she was going to pull of that move. For a bike it's just a matter of turning around right there, but for a car that means exiting the freeway, go over the bridge, somehow get on the other lane, avoid incoming traffic in the narrow freeway exit and reentering the freeway. They can't have done it just on the off-chance, because they'd then have had great trouble turning round to chase her the right way.
While Trinity is falling out of the window, she tries to shoot the agent leaping after her. The bullets of her guns are too close to each other because the weapon has a limited rate of fire of 1700 rounds per minute, which is by the way extremely high for a submachine gun. This is because of technical issues: the whole automated reloading cycle just takes some time. In reality a bullet fired off from a micro-uzi would be over 12m away when the next one leaves the muzzle.
During the scene where Neo is talking to Agent Smith in the park area where Neo was talking to the Oracle, there is a close-up on Agent Smith's face. In his sunglasses you can see a camera on a tripod and a light and white screen to reflect the light onto the faces of the actors.
In the freeway chase scene when one of the agents jumps onto the hood of the first car then jumps off, the car flips, then a second later as the car is still flipping you can see the gas tank has been removed.
During the freeway scenes, the katana Morpheus used as a foot hold to grab the keymaker keeps moving. It was at arm's length from the top when he inserted it; when Morpheus was standing on it, the sword was a whole body length below the top; when Morpheus took the sword out in his fight against the agent, it was back in its original position.
During the car chase, the twins shoot out most of the windows in the car that Trinity and Morpheus are driving in. But every time they cut to a shot of them inside of the car, the windows are intact and there is no shattered glass to be seen.
During the freeway scene, if you look closely, you will notice that none of the trucks have axles.
When Neo and the keeper are fighting on the middle bench, one by one the bowls get knocked off - the two on the far corners (left and right) reappear and disappear at least once. Likewise the pot on the right hand table with stick-like things in - that table's completely cleared at one point, but that pot reappears.
During the freeway chase scene the Cadillac gets slammed up against the wall and sparks start shooting from the side to show that the car is being scraped by the wall. However, in several quick shots after we see the car gets scraped against the wall, there are only bullet holes and no trace of scraping against the side of the car.
In the scene where Trinity is speeding away with the Keymaker, how can the Ducati be slower than the cop cars which are obviously gaining on her? It can't be due to traffic - when she's on the hard shoulder, with completely empty space in front, the cops are still alongside.
In one scene we see Persephone reapplying her nude/pale pink coloured lipstick while she is in the men's room, talking to the crew. In the next shot, she has a different colour lipstick on all of a sudden. Instead of her lips being nude/pink-colored, they are now lined with a darker colour and not filled in with lipstick.
During the entire time that Trinity and Morpheus are being shot at by the twin in the car, we never see him reload his gun, despite the fact that he fires about 350 shots at them from one clip. It can't be due to them being able to bend the rules of the matrix, as eventually he runs out of ammo, looks at the gun in disgust and ditches it.
In the freeway chase scene when the Cadillac is being side-smashed by the police cruiser, the agent driving the cruiser disappears from the car when the vehicle hits the water barriers. It can't just be that he changed to a different body - that would have left the original occupant still in the car.
In the scene right before the freeway scene, in the city streets, the Escalade EXT rams a brown BMW 7-series in the purwuit of the Silver CTS. The BMW rips in half, but there's not a scratch on the EXT. Later in the freeway scene, you see a headlight blown out, and a katana sword can rip it, whereas a car smash causes no damage.
After Morpheus slices the car the Twins are in, you see the car skidding to a stop. The camera cuts back a fraction before the car actually stops, but it's obviously moving very slowly. However when you see the car in the next shot, it's flipping over. There is no way that its minimal momentum would have flipped the car, cut with a sword or not.
In the car chase scene, when Trinity is driving the cadillac, the Agent in the cop car slams into the driver's side of Trinity's car and the driver's side mirror is smashed. When Trinity drives the cadillac onto the exit ramp, the driver's side mirror is back in its normal position.
In the scene where Morpheus is sitting in the chair near the end of the movie giving his "War and fate" speech you can see the microphone and camera in his sunglasses. This is repeatedly seen during the whole scene.
During the Freeway scene, the number plate on the car that Trinity is driving changes from "DA 2003" to "DA 203" and back at various intervals.
In the scene where Neo is fighting the French guy's henchmen, at the end of the fight Neo stabs one of the guys with a sword. But if you look closely, the sword is actually not penetrating him at all. It is actually going under his arm.
Trinity's cut on her right arm disappears and reappears throughout the freeway scene.
When Agent Smith stands in the way of Neo, Morpheus and the keymaker, Smith's glasses reflect an empty corridor when 3 people are right in front of him.
In the highway chase scene there is a shot of the police cars before they get onto the highway and the cars are Chevrolet Caprices. When they are on the highway chasing Trinity's car, the police cars become brand new Chevrolet Impalas. But when the police cars start to ram her, they become Caprices again.
When Neo flies away from the Hundred Smiths, we see the Smiths watch and start to wander their seperate ways but if you watch the Smiths as they walk off (except for the last three) their hair changes from Smith's style to the style of the stuntmen used for the sequence.
In the freeway chase where the agent jumps on the front of the car causing it to flip once he jumps off, we see a shot of the car landing on its roof and there is no one in the car.
In the 100 Agent Smith fight, you can see (especially in the larger shots) that there are many Smiths that don't look like Smith at all. Also, for the ones that have Smiths face digitally painted on them, when they turn around you can see that the backs of their heads are all different.
In the rotating shot around the semi-truck, in the freeway scene, the sword that Morpheus uses later that scene is nowhere to be found.
During the freeway chase there is a shot over the shoulder of one of the twins as he shoots at our hero's car. He rakes his stream of bullets from left to right following the car as it passes behind a white van - notice, however, that there are already bullet holes in the van *before* the stream of bullets ever reaches it.
This happens during the scene when Morpheus cuts "The Twins" car with a sword, and shoots it. Watch how close Morpheus is to the car when he shoots, then when it explodes look around on the ground. There is a wide angle camera shot, and Morpheus is not there any more, even though he was about 10 feet from the car. Then when the shot goes to a higher angle, Morpheus reappears. He also looks trasparent and 2D in some of the higher shots of the road. Submitted by Terri Engblom
In the scene where Trinity is driving on the freeway, you can see from the interior shot that her door is locked. In the exterior shot you can see her door is unlocked. This is consistent all the way through the driving sequence.
In the freeway scene there are a lot of cars flipping and smashing onto their roofs. In one of the silver cars that is on its roof, the camera goes by and you can see the rollcage that keeps the cabin and/or driver intact.
On the long straight shot of the two trucks driving at each other there is a clear starting/ending position for the busy traffic, followed by empty road.
When The Architect is talking to Neo, the tie tack he's wearing (the kind that extends across the knot from one side of the collar to the other) appears to have fallen out of the left collar (right side on the screen) in one shot. Seconds later, it's back in place.
In the shot where Morpheus slices the Twins' car on the Freeway bridge and causes the Twins' vehicle to overturn, the camera goes to a wide shot of Morpheus and the vehicle, without the side parapets of the bridge, thus showing everything without any obstruction. Shots following immediately after show the parapets all intact.
In the highway fight scene between Morpheus and an Agent, the truck they are riding passes the same energy plant seen in the background at least twice. And at times it seems they are about to pass it and in another shot it's far away again.
In the scene where Neo is sitting with the oracle and talking, there is one quick shot of the fence area where Smith comes in. In spraypaint on the metal fence it has "ONE" written across it diagonally up to the right. When the oracle leaves and Agent Smith comes through the fence entrance the spraypainted "ONE" has disappeared.
During the freeway chase scene, Morpheus uses the katana to balance himself between two trucks in order to get the keymaker onto one of the actual trucks. As soon as he has flipped the Keymaker onto the truck, look carefully at Morpheus' face - it is obviously a stunt double.
In the scene where the keymaker and Trinity jump off the truck, you can see that that is a taller, fitter keymaker.
When the architect of the Matrix is talking to Neo, he has a silver pen in his right hand. In the closeup it's a LAMY "swift" palladium coated (with eccentric trigger), in the other scenes it's a different pen; much thinner.
In the scene where Neo meets the Oracle and they begin to converse, she is resting her head against her hand on the bench. In the first shot her hand is touching her temple. In the next shot from behind the bench, her hand is against her jaw. In the next shot that faces them both again, her hand is back against her temple. She's always visible, with no time lapse - there's no time for her to shift position.
During the car chase scene, when Trinity is speeding towards the camera the wrong way on the freeway and the camera is zooming out, if you look closely under the front tire of her motorcycle, you see the lines of the road going under her tyre at around 5-10 mph, even though the shot keeps changing to show her going very fast.
On the highway after the first agent and one of the twins have been thrown out from the rebel car the second agent starts shooting. The shots fired and the car's glass breaking don't sync properly and the glass explodes between rounds fired.
When Neo is talking to the Oracle there is a stray hair about to fall away from the Oracle's head. It disappears and reappears a couple of times.
During the scene on the freeway, Trinity is on the Ducati Bike with the Keymaker. While she is going with the traffic, you can see a Volvo Cross County about 5 cars ahead of her. She then turns against traffic and there is a shot of her coming towards the camera, but behind her, the Volvo has disappeared.
Just like in the first movie, the bullets that Neo stops in mid-air don't have any striations on them from the rifling of the barrel.
The sign post that Neo pulls out of the ground to fight the 100 agents would be hollow but is modelled as solid in one of the CG shots.
In the scene where Trinity rides a motorcycle and is being chased by the police, she dodges a car, which crosses the road line and is set on a collision course with the police cars, which are right behind her. From the reverse angle, the gap's increased noticeably, and the car's avoided the cops.
spiffy site, check it out sometime if you haven't already. i highly recommend it.
I beg to differ , if you look at the last two pictures good , I would say that there DEFINITELY are similarities :rolleyes:(roll up and down between the two pics a few times and look at the facial structure) [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by MenderOne+29 May 2003 - 17:20--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MenderOne @ 29 May 2003 - 17:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--kylman5000@27 May 2003 - 05:00
For all you guys who cant see it upright, and to end it all!!!
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Bing (the guy in neo's dream, and who cut his hand)
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post it side by side so you don't hafta roll up, makes it alittle easier to compare i thinks
because the last actress who played the oracle passed away.
and there is no way bane = the architect. they look nothing alike.
sorry to butt in, but what was the code for the zion83n6 on the official website?