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Originally Posted by Artemis
You Sir, are a liar and a thief. These pictures and the config are stolen from my website. While the setup is enviable, and I am blessed to have been able to build it, try to exercise a little integrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by bijoy
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8...eyshot1024.jpg
The setup has been featured on Desktopped.com and Hard[OCP] and is currently waiting for me to build an office in my unfinished basement. The three Gateway monitors have all died and I'm gradually replacing them with Dell U3011's. For now though, you can enjoy some more pics from the true owner of this setup:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1118/rigweb.jpg
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Much appreciated, thank you. Once my post is approved the evidence should be clear. Thanks again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
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My apologies for the delays, our site Admin does this in his spare time so we're not always the most expedient. I've been buried in Deus Ex: Human Revolution since its release, so I haven't been real attentive either. I'll look into it; again sorry for the inconvenience and thanks to both of you for bringing this to my attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
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As far as being a Christian AND a gamer, let me try to address some of your questions. I've been an avid gamer since there was such a thing. Being 43 now, that puts me back to the first Atari and Commodore 64. I love it, always have! From X-Wing to Battlefield 3 (was fortunate to play the Alpha) I enjoy it all. As a Christian, I do filter what I play, but probably not the way you're imagining. I'm also an avid paintball fan, so most of what I play are shooters and/or fps/rpg hybrids. There are some driving and flight sim games in there too, but Battlefield is my main game of choice. I enjoy the teamwork, strategy, scope and adrenaline rush. The stereotype seems to be that if we're simulating violence it must be wrong. If this were true our Military forces and Police would also be immoral. First and foremost, I'm not shooting people, I'm playing a game. I don't even own a firearm and have no plans too. Secondly, even that is not done with a blind eye to the reason behind the violence. I have never viewed shooters as murder simulators but rather as paintball simulators. That said, I don't play games like Postal, Grand Theft Auto or Saints Row. Violence for the sake of violence just strikes me as irresponsible, but great story telling, polished team play, honoring our Military men and women and emerging graphic technologies are all qualities I'll go for in a game.
As Christian gamers the group I hang out with, World Wide Ambassadors, likes to take these past times and passions and create a family friendly place we can enjoy them. We host servers that are monitored for language, cheating and disrespect. A lot of us have kids that play with us as well. My daughters are both grown now, but they used to (and still do from time to time) fly jets with me in BF2, have a little fragfest with me in Half-Life 2 or join me for some Portal 2 CO-OP. I've been sensitive to what I buy and what they've seen over the years, but I don't believe being a Christian necessitates being a boring, detached "Church Lady" who shelters themselves and does nothing to relate to the world around them. My interest in computer and gaming is no different from my interest in cars or photography. I manage it, but I don't forbid it.
In any respect, if you've got questions or comments, by all means lets open a discussion... but in our own thread or PM. :)
In the real world we call that sort of thinking rationalizing. No offense but people that do very un-Christian things like murder and rape apply the same sort ofQuote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
twistedlogic.:)
Btw I hate to break it to you but our military and police are to a certain extent immoral .
Sure that makes life enjoyable and such, but did you know you're going to hell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
Thanks for clearing that up (if there any doubt left after Art's post). :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
Compromise always becomes a downward spiral if no restraint is applied, but then what is it you feel I'm "rationalizing?". I love Mass Effect, a game that was splattered across FOX news for including a sex scene (blown out of proportion, but still). However you only saw that content if you choose too. If you were morally opposed you never had to experience it. Deus Ex: Human Revolution allows me to kill at will, but reminds me I'm a Cop and not an Assassin. Again the choice is mine, I can play it lethally or not. So should I have never purchased these games because of their potential content, or should I simply apply the same principals to it that I strive for in real life? Even the games that are an all out battlefield are not a representation of what I'd like to do in real life. I enjoy good competition, but I'd be modified to have to go to war, or even shot somebody in self defense! Nobody dies in the games I play, avatars mimic death, but then they respawn 5 seconds later. That has more in common with paintball then actual war. I'm not trying to simulate violence, I'm trying to simulate team work or turning a good book into an interactive story. Games that are overly graphic are irresponsible and turn me off, so I don't buy them. My point is I have enjoyed playing "cops and robbers" since I was a little kid, yet I've never had a remote desire to run out and harm somebody because of it. Would I defend my family if put in a position where I had too? I'd do my best, but that's a far cry from instigating violence like rape or murder.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I agree that people, Christian and non, can rationalize whatever they want, and often do. I am certainly not saying all my gaming is healthy, but the aspects that become unhealthy have more to do with how much time I let it take away from family, or other priorities, then altering my disposition towards other people or compromising my faith. This could be said of any hobby that gets out of hand. I like to use the fire analogy; it can be used to heat your house or burn it down, depends on how you use it... more specifically how you manage it. Rape and murder are blatantly wrong, gaming is not. Some of it is garbage for sure, and it can become wrong if you let it control you, but that's why we read reviews, ESRB ratings and engage a little wisdom and maturity. Like our Military and Police, who's goals and purpose are to protect and defend, they only get out of hand when individuals choose to use them outside of those perimeters.
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Actually being anything but perfect will send you to hell. :) That however is why Christ came to sacrifice a life He lived perfectly to pay the debt for our imperfect lives. Perfect justice fulfilled and perfect love fulfilled. The choice is still left up to us to accept that gift or not. If all of this is proof of anything it is that He will not supersede our freedom of choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmackySure that makes life enjoyable and such, but did you know you're going to hell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
Good discussion gents.
What kind of crap do Gateway produce? I paid 800$ for a supposedly top of the line Gateway monitor (don't remember the model as it went to trash since) about 5 years ago and it died after 2 years, now I can officially say that their monitors suck donkeys. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
Everything Gateway produces has been shit for as long as I've known them to make products.Quote:
Originally Posted by KFlintWhat kind of crap do Gateway produce? I paid 800$ for a supposedly top of the line Gateway monitor (don't remember the model as it went to trash since) about 5 years ago and it died after 2 years, now I can officially say that their monitors suck donkeys. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
This is like my setup, I didn't steal it from a thread in Team-WWA either :shifty:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4128/Workstation.jpg
This place needs a real clean but I don't have the time :happy:
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Case: Thermaltake V9
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RAM: 8GB
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Gfx: 6850 or /70
BDR: LG BH08LS20
Straight glass desk, don't know what I was thinking when I go teh L-shaped one :\
And wasn't it nice of the local government/roading company to donate the traffic cone. :naughty:
It's his router, you know for directing internet trafficQuote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
Just as long as you have your sins forgiven before you die, according to the theory. In context of christian afterlife, most people are burning in hell, and heaven has a lot of former death row inmates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
The point was Gaming >>> christianity
Agreed. I bought my three one at a time over the course of a year; this was back when they were first released and were getting outstanding reviews. Their previous 24" FHD2400 had also reviewed well, and the company was supposedly "under new management" so I thought I'd give them a chance. Unfortunately the XHD3000's died in mass quantities about 1.5-2 years later due to a circuit board that was cooking itself having been packed too tight. Despite my investment Gateway took the "that's too bad" approach because they had a recall nightmare on their hands and they knew it. The last panel I bought was as some of this was starting to come to light. When I went to register it on their site, the two I had previously registered had been erased. I re-registered them, but all three disappeared again the next day. I had the fore thought to get a screen capture in the event of a class action suit, but amazingly none have been filed.Quote:
Originally Posted by KFlintWhat kind of crap do Gateway produce? I paid 800$ for a supposedly top of the line Gateway monitor (don't remember the model as it went to trash since) about 5 years ago and it died after 2 years, now I can officially say that their monitors suck donkeys. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frraksurred
So yes, never, ever, ever, eveeerrrrr buy Gateway. :dry:
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Hehe, cutting edge 2006!Quote:
Originally Posted by iLOVENZB
Sup, guys? I just put this little beauty together...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5716/gameready.jpg
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Aggressive, yet strangely Christian.
Nice work!
Thanks, clocker. I've always been a fan of righteous angles.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
damn MBM...how much is your electric bill every month?! :P J/K but seriously how much? ;)
He doesn't know, he sends all his bills to a carpenter in the middle eastQuote:
Originally Posted by tippertime
I split the bill with bijoy (he pitched in on the build too, ofc :shifty: ), so it isn't too bad... :whistling
What towers are those megabyteme? Damn nice set up dude btw ;)
Not again..... Juggernaut if you read back a couple of pages there are many pictures of the setup including all the details about both PC's posted by it's owner frraksurred. MegaByteMe was just having a joke after someone else previously claimed that the setup was his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juggernaut1971
The cases are Coolermaster Cosmos S.
This, ofc. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtemisNot again..... Juggernaut if you read back a couple of pages there are many pictures of the setup including all the details about both PC's posted by it's owner frraksurred. MegaByteMe was just having a joke after someone else previously claimed that the setup was his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juggernaut1971
The cases are Coolermaster Cosmos S.
Truth be told, I'm too cheep/broke to spring for an SSD in my Asus 1215B Netbook. :yup:
Indeed. Has anyone seen the yet to be announced Cosmos S II that was featured in MaximumPC's 2011 Dream Machine? I think I drooled a little. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by ArtemisThe cases are Coolermaster Cosmos S.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juggernaut1971
Neither have enough room for a big ass heatsink, so I'm passing on all.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrraksurredIndeed. Has anyone seen the yet to be announced Cosmos S II that was featured in MaximumPC's 2011 Dream Machine? I think I drooled a little. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
That's certainly quite a machine, but $350 for a case and I don't get a PSU? :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by FrraksurredIndeed. Has anyone seen the yet to be announced Cosmos S II that was featured in MaximumPC's 2011 Dream Machine? I think I drooled a little. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
The CM V8 HS&F in my case barely fits. The side panel bulges a tiny bit; not noticeable unless you were looking for it, but still, not ideal. The new case is supposed to be 20% larger, but not sure which dimension that applies too.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
Yeah the price is ridiculous. The original started at $250 and dropped to $200, which I thought was pricey enough. Not sure how they're justifying a 70% price increase for a case that's only "20% larger", but hopefully that will drop before it ships.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
Personally I don't mind that there is no PSU. They'd have to include a top of the line 1200w or larger unit for a Tri-GPU setup like mine, which would either double the cost, or force me to replace it. So, in this price range of case, they are probably wiser to leave it up to the buyer. I do agree that should be reflected more in the price however. They could throw in their Aquagate R120 for what they're asking! :w00t:
Just finished my first build!
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Your innards look like my innards, is that a big ass tower as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rart
luverly pic rart, some spec's would be handy:blink:
I can see it is an X58 board and that looks like a Coolermaster CPU cooler in an Antec case but info would be coolio.
The only thing that keeps me from building a PC is, I have no knowledge of how to set up a BIOS. The actual build is easy, but I wouldn't have the first clue on setting up BIOS. :unsure:
The only real trick is if you are into overclocking, if you are then configuring the BIOS can be a big task to get the settings you want. If you're not a tweaker (pun intended) then it is simply a matter of selecting/deselecting options based on your hardware. Most options/devices these days are automatically detected and configured anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
Not as daunting as you might think. I'm no expert, but having taught myself to build my own PC's, I also had to teach myself to configure them. As Artemis mentioned, unless you plan to OC there is rarely anything in the BIOS that needs to be messed with, even for a fresh build. Even then it is typically only the "enthusiast" models that give you access to the more critical settings, such as: BUS frequencies and core voltage. All mobo's can be reset via a button or pulling the CMOS battery if things go wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
To further make matters user friendly, many of the newer motherboards are using UEFI, a GUI driven version of BIOS that gives you a windows-esque interface and allows you to use your mouse. Besides all this, the Internets has loads of tutorials for you to give you a leg up or pull your hinny out of the fire. :yup:
It's an Antec P183, which I believe is labeled as a mid tower. However I've seen many reviews claim that it's as big as a full tower, but I don't really have anything to compare it to.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
Antec P183Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
I5 2500K w/ Prolimatech Megahalems
Corsair AX850 Power supply
Galaxy GTX 580
16 GB RAM
128 GB Crucial C300 SSD
1 TB Samsung F3
3x Scythe Slipstream fans
It's relatively pain free, as others have mentioned. If you don't plan on overclocking (like me, I'm 99% sure I'd break something in the process) you really don't have to touch the BIOS at all. And if you get a motherboard with a UEFI, it's pretty easy to navigate it if you ever need to make any changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
All done with the new build/upgrades.
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New: One of my 8800 GTS cards died so I sent it back to EVGA (lifetime warranty ftw). Whenever I finally get it back, I'll rerun the Windows Experience Index. Even with only one 8800 GTS currently in use, it's still rating the graphics fairly well. As a side note, the only game I've played in the last year has been CoD: Black Ops and I was still able to turn the resolution and graphics all up to the maximum and still have smooth game play. :)
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One question Skiz, why did you ditch the corsair CPU waterblock ?
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I just didn't want to bother with it. I already had the motherboard screwed in, so I would have had to take that off to attach the back piece, then apply thermal paste and screw everything in to the fans and motherboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
The CPU fan that came with the i5 was already equipped with thermal paste and it just had those snap in buttons, so the whole thing was attached in a matter of seconds. If I ever feel like overclocking it down the road, I may slap the H50 on there.
ps - Hey chewie. :wave:
I might be stereotyping here but I've found Mac users to have the cleanest desks :\
Why would Mac users be taking pictures of their computer on their desks anyway, I mean they all have the exact same computer. If you're talking about encounters, it could be that they are have nothing of importance to do, or they're very pretentious about appearances.Quote:
Originally Posted by iLOVENZB
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