account trading = invite 4 REP in the language of trackers staffQuote:
Originally Posted by danio
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account trading = invite 4 REP in the language of trackers staffQuote:
Originally Posted by danio
that's irrelevant in this pollQuote:
Originally Posted by naaceeraccount trading = invite 4 REP in the language of trackers staffQuote:
Originally Posted by danio
couldnt have said any better,may be this whole thing must be more organised atleast in the bittorrent section, every one should be divided into 3 groups traders ,anti-traders, and non-traders...and then people should be asked to chose what group they belong to...and every member of that particular group should be marked with a different color...and then led to war against each other,then probably supper would be "william wallace ,Brave heart(Mel Gibson)"...whats hurting are those guys who flip flop from being trader,anti-trader and non trader,and then may be we will know exctly what kind of progress has that particular group has achived with reference to torrents i bet traders would account for the most amount of buffer,and better ratios among the other 2,for all the hype being said anti-trader make a better member, if having good ratios and good buffer is not the criteria of being a good member then how come no one gets disabled for being inactive in the forums whereas some one with poor ratios no matter how active he is in the forums gets disabled...:P,to be honest i think all this trader,anti-trader are just a means thru which people increase the number of posts. these posts wont change anything but its fun once in a while...may be if this whole trading ,anti-trading and nontrading is more organised there would be no need for asking questions like "should account trading be allowed?",i know its easy to point fingers at some one and say you r wrong then trying to make sumthing constructive happen...but if its a tie between yes or no ,then account trading should be allowed if not anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rumblinand agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts kinda sounds like braveheart, YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR ACCOUNT TRADING, CHARGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEQuote:
Originally Posted by supperu are the best:)Quote:
Originally Posted by peat moss
and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts
u will get ban in any way if any staffer catch u tradeing accounts or invites
if fst want to stop tradeing accounts then stop it for elite trackers i mean like trackers with small community and with staff relly dont like tradeing accounts coz belive me no use for tradeing accounts there coz it will be disabled sooner or later so no need to trade accounts for those.
last word just let the ppl decide what they want coz they know exactly what they need if u will stop tradeing accounts here they will trade it in some where else
invites traders or accounts traders both will be disabled by the staffso no need to even vote by yes or no.
i think this it's a sad thing to have come to something like this debate ... but i'll tell ya what... because of this issue there's gonna be a lot of people banned from the trackers.. How long do ya think its gonna take for tracker staff to get tired of all this BS and start really banning people who have accounts not only here but on other forum types like this as well?? (some do already)
trading may have started out harmless enough(way back in the day) but, look at where it is today!!?? everyone and their grandmother wants to trade an account, thinking they can get something better..?? it's outragous... and people actually think that this is the only way to get on a tracker.. unbelievable, really it is..
tracker staff spend a great deal of time, effort and money(yes i said money) to try to make sure their site(s) are decent.. and the uploaders as well spend a great deal of time effort and money (yes i said money again) also to make sure the site is up to date with the latest stuff.. sometimes it isn't easy, but they do it for everyone that use their site which they take some pride in....now the problem with account trading is that there is no accountabilty, no way of knowing whos who, and no respect for the hard work others do to provide a good place to hang out and get your needs filled.
the sad thing is that too many users here as well as other places think it's their birthright as long as they have an internet connection that they can get into any one of these trackers and do what they please... thats not wright nor is it fair to the rest who actually try to do right by the rules of the tracker..
many trade for of it.. many more trade simply because they don't give a shit about the trackers cause they got banned 2,3,4,5,6 times or more already, so they think they can just keep playing the system.. then theres others who trade cause, well.. they're sheep and follow bad examples, thinking thats only way to get in......
there's a major security risk involved with this.. some may say thats a bunch of BS also but, there is. there's many groups out there that would love to see the the trackers shut down and they infiltrate them and record the goings on in them including user ips(not trying to make people nervous) but, it happens.. anyone remember the reat Oink??... or demonoid?? and other sites that have just dropped off the face of the world? not to mention hackers and like dumbasses....
this who cares about trackers attitudes that people have is really ignorant, and yes all who trade that is your attitude.. cause you obviously don't care about their specific rules... as long as you do it here right??
lol.. many people have lots to learn, and many more need to grow out of their diapers.. lmao
anyways.. trading isn't your only option and its certianly not a good one. cause you traders amongst what i've stated and other things, you pretty much spoil it for the decent users who would make good members of these trackers...
Reguards
its really sad when some one makes a statement like this...^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by jasperr
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. oink?? demonoid?? ....what happened to those has got nuthing to do with trading...it was thier time, they had to go....if that was the case there have been torrent leech,revtt who have been traded,not to mention pirate bay .....i am sorry to say this if someone thinks they cant handle the heat to run a torrent site then they should just shut down like demonoid did....because of oink we have what and waffles...i dont think its sucha bad thing,,,of course what happened to MR.OINK was terrible and i am very sorry for it oink being shut down has had an impact but with death comes life...you cant expect sumthing to stay forever...and dont be under the illusion that what ever happened happened because of trading.,you should stop thinking about torrents and may be think about y lenin,gandhi,Martin Luther King got killed all thou they fought for peace,y do so many people die of hunger every day,are you eating their share of food,will you stop eating food if it meant you can save someone somewhere you dont know of ....if you r soo moved by what happened to OINK?? OR DEMONOID?? how much have you donated for "save OINK fund" 10$,20$,30$,50$ or bring back demonoid,,,since you seem to be touched by what happened to OINK would you give up your whole life savings to save OINK ,i dont think so stop making such idealistic statement,that you are a saint and we are the sinners you r a SHIT,just like melearn to live with that.........some things cant be explained just let it go.
I voted no and expected to see an overwhelmingly one sided poll in favor of yes.i can't believe no is winning
yes yes yes
i don't WTF your talking about here m8.. but if you re-read what i said.. you'll see i was speaking about trading not trackers and bit torrenting.. :ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
Hold up here... now what your talking about isn't what i was talking about.. It's true and your right on this topic some trackers have sadly gone just crazy with this.. but, however.. i was mearly talking about the day to day costs.. seedboxes exc.... your talking of the the above Xtra shit that shouldn't be..Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
well, i don't really consider myself an anti-trader but, obviously you've lead a sheltered life.. speaking for myself, i treat ALL the trackers i'm on with respect.. i must admit at first i didn't simply because i was new to torrents and didn't know.. so fucking sue me for that! :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
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Originally Posted by stitched
are you on drugs here??....... cause you'r not making a lick of sense :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
what i said was not idealsitic.. was the truth, and i guess you can't seem to take the heat either(as you put it) so, why are you in the kitchen??... as for me being a saint!?? :blink: who the fuck said this?? i made no such claims.. and i'm not exacltly sure how you mean by this, since there are many possible roads to take from that.. .. and it's not for you to decide whether or not i am a shit (as you put it).. i don't see the need for you to get personal by directing your anger out on me.. but if want to go there we could.. :frusty: . if you think of yourself as shit, thats your issue not mine stitched.. i consider myself not a saint, not an anti-trader, and definately not a shit!... but a good torrent user.... and if that bothers you.... TOUGH SHIT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
-reguards
Sure Yes .
No way
And why don’t I think it should be allowed? The reasons why is first it’s against the rules of the trackers, second it’s not your account to give, third you are betraying the community you want to be a part of, fourth it’s a security risk, I could go on, but I believe the reasons have been pretty much covered by other users.
It would be nice if each person could write a little more than just ZOMG Yes or No wai.
Not a whole essay but one sentence of explanation would be nice.:smilie4:
i was talking about bitorrenting and trackers,i just tried to use your own words to express what i feltQuote:
Originally Posted by jasperr
you dont consider yourself as an anti-trader it doesnt matter you just are you dont know it yet...with anti trading comes the need to project yourself superiour to traders soo forgive me if i try to tell you you r no better then anyone ....and all that crap about "i must admit at first i didn't simply because i was new" ....you did it once didnt you then stop talking about what some one else should be doing ,dont advice traders as to what is right and what is wrong they already know that ,they do it because they choose to..learn to respect people for what they are...i do respect anti traders for what they are i just dont like it when they keep telling some one what should traders do and how we should redeem ourself by following what they belive in..there is no need to get all excited,if you were not excited then you would be calm if you were calm you wouldnt want me to fucking sue you for that!! or is that suppose to sound cool .Quote:
well, i don't really consider myself an anti-trader but, obviously you've lead a sheltered life.. speaking for myself, i treat ALL the trackers i'm on with respect.. i must admit at first i didn't simply because i was new to torrents and didn't know.. so fucking sue me for that! :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
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are you on drugs here??....... cause you'r not making a lick of sense :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
. oh am i not making sence....yeah, i'm inclined to agree here my friend..
what you said was manipulated truth,what i said might not be 100% true but it is a lot truthfull then your statement...again you are excited trying to sound cool with your "fuck" word,its like posting pictures like some do,..many people seem to find it cool i dont happen to be one of those guys,...you have made no claims ,well like you said since there are many possible roads to take from that..i probably chose the wrong path.....Quote:
what i said was not idealsitic.. was the truth, and i guess you can't seem to take the heat either(as you put it) so, why are you in the kitchen??... as for me being a saint!?? :blink: who the fuck said this?? i made no such claims.. and i'm not exacltly sure how you mean by this, since there are many possible roads to take from that.. .. and it's not for you to decide whether or not i am a shit (as you put it).. i don't see the need for you to get personal by directing your anger out on me.. but if want to go there we could.. :frusty: . if you think of yourself as shit, thats your issue not mine stitched.. i consider myself not a saint, not an anti-trader, and definately not a shit!... but a good torrent user.... and if that bothers you.... TOUGH SHIT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
-reguards
well when i said shit i didnt mean shit my friend ,i meant you are just like everyone else no good no bad....you were very judgemental in you earlier post i just chose to highlite the judgemental part these kind of arguments can go on whole day just make sure you r liberal in what you r trying to say...again forgive me i didnt mean to offend you,save your hardcore ideals, and principles for something better,which would mean something in your life,
let people be what they are,we traders never go to some one and force them to trade unlike a few anti-trader who go to all the possible traders and pick on them,ask them not to trade blah blah....hope now they know how it feels when someone pick on them
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. thanks for understanding jasper you r the best
my opinion? NO
please don't try to use me for your example..... i don't see you as picking on me.. but just the same i wasn't going to leave it as that was that either... i understand what your saying ..... but then again, i'm not trying to stuff anything down anyones throat just stating my thoughts... i guess what i said hit home a bit... thats ok, no ones pefrect... including me..Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
So after all this talk is this thread going to have a resolution or will it die like the others?
Dont bother trying to reason with that guy jasperr, he has the IQ of a dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by jasperrplease don't try to use me for your example..... i don't see you as picking on me.. but just the same i wasn't going to leave it as that was that either... i understand what your saying ..... but then again, i'm not trying to stuff anything down anyones throat just stating my thoughts... i guess what i said hit home a bit... thats ok, no ones pefrect... including me..Quote:
Originally Posted by stitched
Actually, I think my dog is smarter.
:lol::lol::lol:
It must be tough being less then a dog.:lol: Jasperr no need to defend whether your an anti-trader or not. I thing you stated your opinion very well without sounding bias. Some think all anti-traders or non traders are bias. It depends on the individual. I think i can speak on this. Most members or users just want a decent community, where they can interact with others, chat, and enjoy what comes with the various different BT communities as a whole, without all the unnecessary ills. I don't care what type of member you are or movement you roll with. I agree nobody is perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcat69Dont bother trying to reason with that guy jasperr, he has the IQ of a dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by jasperr
Actually, I think my dog is smarter.
:lol::lol::lol:
Probably. I think fst staff got a pretty good idea and handle on how members and bt staff feel and think regarding this whole "Trading/Non trading business". Between this thread, poll and the BT Guru one at this point(The poll suggests a near tie at this point). Hopefully we all as members will be filled in on the final decision and not left in the dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by sear
grimms how old are you 13...i know you dont like me much i dont really care,that doesnt mean you have to dance to fatcats tune,come up with something of your own,like a horse,pig,donkey.. there r other animals too.....dont you know someone's IQ is not determined by what fatcat would say ,as far as fatcat is concerned i forgive him,he is just angry at me for having got my facts straight .....anwyas fatcat...this is not war. we r not fighting are we fatty,...very mature of you ,next thing we know is you start making faces at me is it??Quote:
Originally Posted by grimmsIt must be tough being less then a dog.:lol: Jasperr no need to defend whether your an anti-trader or not. I thing you stated your opinion very well without sounding bias. Some think all anti-traders or non traders are bias. It depends on the individual. I think i can speak on this. Most members or users just want a decent community, where they can interact with others, chat, and enjoy what comes with the various different BT communities as a whole, without all the unnecessary ills. I don't care what type of member you are or movement you roll with. I agree nobody is perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcat69
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if i reply to your(fatcat) messages you say "i am little jealous,i am so obsessed with commenting on nearly every post I make...i scare you..I am an internet forum stalker who is trying to bully you!";...if i dont then you start making these funny statements about me
let it go fatcat,dont hurt yourself,i will just put you on ignore list,i have important things to do with my time,i have wasted enough already talking sense into you.
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i almost forgot...ha ha ha :D very funny...Quote:
It must be tough being less then a dog
the "best'est super'est smartest" joke on me EVER HA HA HA :D :D :D CANT STOP LAUGHING FOR THE REST OF THE DAY , can any one be any more smarter then this, do you work for NASA?....i also hope if we both laugh at the same jokes then may be i have better chances of improving my IQ ,or should i join the anti-trading fatcat reform schoolQuote:
Actually, I think my dog is smarter.
Stitch please put us both on your ignore list, it would solve all of are problems. I'm sick of this back and forth child's play between us all. You started it, but now I want to end it, before the mods have to, which would result in deeper consequences, that none of want or need. I will apologize for indulging in the dog comment, but please lets all stay on topic. Thanks.
You guys are making a Big issue over this trading shit
FFS WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!
And private sites are really stupid to have rules
Its like Giving a bunch of Rules to a criminal ... like he's gonna follow them
There's really no point in this thread
ever heard of the mafia? criminal organization, right? do you know what happens if you don't follow their internal rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
much worse than a site ban :lol:
if you don't want to follow rules of private trackers, don't join them.
be a badass criminal on public trackers.
Ya and wat happens at the end of "American Gangster".....they all got busted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polarbearever heard of the mafia? criminal organization, right? do you know what happens if you don't follow their internal rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
much worse than a site ban :lol:
if you don't want to follow rules of private trackers, don't join them.
be a badass criminal on public trackers.
so whether u follow "internal rules" or not .... your still gonna get busted .... so wats the point!?
Trade like there's no tomorrow
sure, have fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
I hope you like sleeping with the fishes. :sly:Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
First of all life is not a movie, no matter how much you believe it, second of all wish you luck with the 'trade like there's no tomorrow' philosophy, there are some places that it is extremely hard to join if you are a trader (and you honestly don't seem bright enough) and if you are caught on these sites as a trader they will ban you on as many trackers as they can find you on.....Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
@above
u guys dont mind breaking copyright laws/MPAA/Govt Laws...those laws can put u behind bars and a heavy fine
but are shit scared to break the "internal rules" of criminals
sad world
How many times have you installed software without reading "Terms and conditions"
u simply click "I agree" and install it .... and google the crack/patch/keygen/cd key etc
stuff like that can put you away.... like forever
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...am/piracy.mspx
exactly tiger :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
now why don't you go ahead and perform a daring, rule breaking trade for the sites you are looking for in your sig?
come on, i know you've got the guts to do it. show us what a hardcore trader is :D
gotta love those newcomers, sweet :happy:
enough off topic now.
see you in your "my account got stolen/banned for no reason" thread, kiddo.
ive done it on czone,SCL,TD,TL .... u think iTS,SCT are any different .... LOL... just gimme a few more days/weeks ..... got some huge buffered accounts to leech.... when thats done maybe il PM you from iTS,SCTQuote:
Originally Posted by Polarbearexactly tiger :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
now why don't you go ahead and perform a daring, rule breaking trade for the sites you are looking for in your sig?
come on, i know you've got the guts to do it. show us what a hardcore trader is :D
gotta love those newcomers, sweet :happy:
enough off topic now.
see you in your "my account got stolen/banned for no reason" thread, kiddo.
a former hacker once said "The internet security is built by humans,thus it can be hacked/cracked by humans" ... or something like that
I'm willing to bet you can get both those for free.
against trading
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Originally Posted by abe171
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mhhh NO! :D
Realise that if you need help from staff of trackers here on FST you should in turn help the trackers by at the least helping them be secure.
Everyone seems happy to take help if they have a problem but not to help in return. :dabs:
If you want FST to be a place where you can find BT staff then trading is the wrong way to go, so vote NO.
If you want FST to be just for the users and a place BT staff abhor then vote YES.
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Originally Posted by abe171ive done it on czone,SCL,TD,TL .... u think iTS,SCT are any different .... LOL... just gimme a few more days/weeks ..... got some huge buffered accounts to leech.... when thats done maybe il PM you from iTS,SCTQuote:
Originally Posted by Polarbear
a former hacker once said "The internet security is built by humans,thus it can be hacked/cracked by humans" ... or something like that
yeah go ahead and do that.. send a message to polarbear and brag about your clever trades into the trackers.. lol you are not very bright, are you?
if you choose the path of trading, atleast don't brag about your "accomplishments", cause all you prove is how much of a childish kid you are.
bolibompa!
BTW if u didnt know American gangster is based on a real life story.... its not just a movieQuote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
u couldnt reply to my previous postsQuote:
Originally Posted by danioQuote:
Originally Posted by abe171
yeah go ahead and do that.. send a message to polarbear and brag about your clever trades into the trackers.. lol you are not very bright, are you?
if you choose the path of trading, atleast don't brag about your "accomplishments", cause all you prove is how much of a childish kid you are.
bolibompa!
cos y'all know im right :D
1. Fuck all people get fined.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
2. Even less go to Jail.
3. No one is shit scared it's called respect.
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Why do you even want ITS it's a community tracker, clearly you couldn't give a toss about that.
The only arguments are with those with less than 3 months here, only here for 1 thing before they piss off to their pissant world.
Why bother.
Definitely a big NO vote.
Respect LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by sear1. Fuck all people get fined.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
2. Even less go to Jail.
3. No one is shit scared it's called respect.
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Why do you even want ITS it's a community tracker, clearly you couldn't give a toss about that.
after demonoid got busted .... watever happened to AXXO,Hockney and all those other guys
they respected the demonoid community and followed the rules ...wat happened to them?
i read it online ...that AXXO is taking a break .... LOL .... its more like running from the cops
Demonoid ratted those guys out .... just like a criminal
when a criminal gets busted .... he wont go down alone .... he will bring all his accomplices down
i never knew people joined private trackers just to be part of the community..... if u wanted to be part of a community join facebook,myspace,orkut, ...the list is endless
i join private trackers just to download
I voted no. The problem with all these traders is that they have a complete disregard for the rules that trackers set for their own security. I really don't understand these people, maybe if there could be a special site in their own language so they can understand, but seeing these people ignoring rules, trading or even selling invites/accounts makes me discriminate against certain countries I won't name.
Everyday when I enter the invites section I always see a giveaway thread with some scrub giving away 10 trannytorrent invites in order to get more "BT Rep". FST is overloaded with little kids ... the FST staff should buckle down and cooperate with tracker staff before it's too late to fix this mess... because torrent staff have people who track traders/sellers and they will get your IP. So question is, what ever shall you do traders when you're baned from every site? Use proxies for the rest of your internet life? Best end this stupidity now and ban all trading/giveaways from this forum. FST isn't meant to be a safe haven for 13 year old account traders to spam threads every second ... it's a forum where file sharing is discussed. Period.