Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
well its 6am and i havnt been to bed yet (3yr old daughter still wide awake and babysitting lol) shes wide awake im dead on my feet. so when i get some sleep, i may think this is a great idea (cant see it myself though lol)
On BCG we have got a plan though, We dont let everyone upload, so we cant do it with torrents uploaded, but we are going to do it with Good members you bring into the site. (and who those good members bring into the site)
I wont go into to much detail as its all hush hush atm, but ratio wont be the only way you can get promoted to PU/SPU, even though you can still get promoted purely on ratio as well.
as for all the details of it, you will just have to wait and see, it took me 10 minutes to think it up, its going to take a week + to code the thing. and it is pretty complex.
but like i said, if you are an uploader on BCG then you can already se the proposal and what we are going to do.
Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
We are developing a new HD tracker that will have unique ranking system. Its still in development and there is a lot of work to do but I can say its gonna rock ;)
Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
Although I rarely post on public forums, this particular thread touched a very important issue. Unfortunately most staffers follow policies that ruin file sharing ideology. By demanding enormous ratio and uploaded credits users are prompted to use seedboxes, making trackers look like topsites than BT communities.
Personally I’m neither a supplier nor a distributor to create huge buffers by uploading/downloading stuff that I’ve no idea what is all about. I prefer to download a file, watch/read/hear it, leave a proper comment and seed it, just to share it with others as the original encoder/ripper/uploader share it with me. And all these in a friendly environment that gives you the sense of a true community.
Regarding that ''the criteria for different user classes'' and the ''tracker’s general policy'' are the main factors that can convert a tracker into an elite BT community, I believe that the following propositions could solve lots of issues (especially for small private trackers).
The ideal way to keep alive the exclusive content of a tracker (packs, old torrents etc) and good swarms in all torrents (not only in 0-day stuff), is seeding ratio.
SEEDING RATIO (concerns each torrent separately).
S.R. = Seeding Ratio: Counts only for torrents that have been completely downloaded from this site
t = Time (hours): Seeding time after a torrent have been snatched
0 < t < 336 : S.R.= ( 0,8 * t) / 336
336 < t < 672 : S.R.= 0,8 + 1.2 *( t - 336) / 336
672 < t < 1008 : S.R.= 2,0 + 1.5 *( t - 672) / 336
t > 1008 : S.R. = 3,5 + 2,0 *( t - 1008) / 336
Example:
If someone seeds a torrent for 14 days (336 hours / 2 weeks) he will have a seeding ratio=0.8 for this.
If someone seeds a torrent for 56 days (1344 hours / ~ 2 months) he will have a seeding ratio=5.5 for this.
The tracker will count in each torrent those parameters:
Size Ratio = Upload/Download
Seeding Ratio = S.R.
Ratio = Size Ratio + Seeding Ratio
Size Upload
Seeding Upload = Seeding Ratio * Download
Upload = Size Upload + Seeding Upload
Rules:
Ratio > 0,6 (referring to each torrent separately)
Total Ratio > 0..8 (concerns ALL the torrents)
Example:
Someone has downloaded 2 torrents of 10GB each
1st torrent : Uploaded 7GB + Seed it for 3 days
2nd torrent : Uploaded 4GB + Seed it for 7 days
1st torrent :
Size Ratio = 7/10 = 0,7
Seeding Ratio = 0,8 *72 / 336 = 0,17143
Ratio = 0,17143 + 0,7 = 0,87143
Size Upload=7GB
Seeding Upload = 0,17143 * 10. ~ 1,7GB
Upload = 7 + 1,7 = 8,7GB
2nd torrent :
Size Ratio = 4/10 = 0,4
Seeding Ratio = 0,8 *168 / 336 = 0,4
Ratio = 0,4 +,0,4 = 0,8
Size Upload=4GB
Seeding Upload = 0,4 *10 = 4GB
Upload = 4 + 4 = 8GB
Total Upload (clear) = 7+4 = 11,0GB
Total Upload (inc. SR) = 8,7 + 8 = 16,7GB
Total Download = 20,0GB
Total Ratio (clear) = 0,55
Total Ratio (inc. SR) = 0,835
How does this promotion thing work
User:
The default class of new members. Must maintain a Total Ratio (inc. SR) > 0.8
Member :
Member for at least 4 weeks.
Total Download > 50GB
Total Upload (inc. SR) > 52.5GB (ratio>1.05)
Power:
Member for at least 12 weeks.
Total Download > 200GB
Total Size Upload > 160GB (Total Size Ratio > 0,8 )
Total Seeding Upload > 80GB (Total Seeding Ratio > 0,4 )
Elite
Member for at least 24 weeks.
Total Download > 500GB
Total Size Upload > 450GB (Total Size Ratio > 0,9 )
Total Seeding Upload > 300GB (Total Seeding Ratio > 0,6 )
No (systematic) H’n’R in one’s profile
Hero
Member for at least 48weeks.
Total Download > 1TB
Total Size Upload > 1TB (Total Size Ratio > 1,0 )
Total Seeding Upload > 800GB (Total Seeding Ratio > 0,8 )
No H’n’R in one’s profile
Legend
Member for at least 72weeks.
Total Download > 1,5TB
Total Size Upload > 1,5TB (Total Size Ratio > 1,0 )
Total Seeding Upload > 1,2TB (Total Seeding Ratio > 0,8 )
No H’n’R in one’s profile
Need manual approval
Vip
Assigned by mods at their discretion to users they feel contribute something special to the site. (ex-dedicated-uploaders, help in coding/design/forums, offer tutorials etc)
Uploader
Appointed by Staff
Donor
Just donate
User-Classes (apart from staff):
User:
Account is disabled after 28 days of inactivity
Member :
Special Forum
View NFO
View tracker stats on homepage
Bookmarks
Advanced Search
Choose Stylesheet
Can download DOX over 1MB
Account is disabled after 42 days of inactivity
Power (same privileges as Member plus the following):
Special Forum
View torrents log
Can make requests
Can request 1 invite (need staff’s approval)
Anonymous on peerlist (hidden seeding/leeching)
Account is disabled after 60 days of inactivity
Elite (same privileges as Power plus the following):
Special Forum
View Top10
Can request custom title
Can request invites (need staff’s approval)
Anonymous on snatch-list
Immune to automatic demotion.
Hero(same privileges as Elite plus the following):
Special Forum
View Userlist
Custom title
1 invite
Anonymous on Top10
Hidden Stats
Immune to automatic demotion.
Legend (same privileges as Hero plus the following):
Special Forum
View Staff
2 invites
Upload rights (can hide uploads)
Ip no recorded (no log one’s ip on the database)
Immune to automatic demotion.
Vip (same privileges as Elite)
Uploader (same privileges as Elite)
Donor (same privileges as Member plus donor star)
General rules for all user-classes:
01. Useful posts, comments, forum activity
Irc rights according to one’s forum activity and user-class
02. Invite tree
Invite one bad user leads to warning
Invite two bad users leads to permanently loose your invite rights
Trading : Account disabled
03. Overseeding
Systematic overseeding (ratio>3 in 0-day stuff) leads to a warning and then demotion to the previous user-class
For instance: Size Ratio>3 and Seeding Ratio<0,1 in more than five torrents can lead to a warning and demotion to the previous user-class
All these can be applied to all kind of trackers. For example in a no ratio tracker the promotion can be based on the Size Upload and the Seeding Upload.
In order to make that post I’ve taken into account lots of factors. The basic idea is to promote good users who really using the site (seeding/leeching both 0-day & old stuff) and keeping alive it’s exclusive content. Staffers must realize that users who rent a seedbox for 2 months, create huge buffers and then start leeching can’t be considered elite members!
Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
^^ Great post, well done.
I will have to print it off and go through it in more fine detail before I can digest what you have suggested, and then comment more fully, but massive kudos on thinking something through like that and sharing it, thanks.
Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
where can i find these type of rules
i would like to be in this tracker
A well organized place like this is home for me.
Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
03. Overseeding
Systematic overseeding (ratio>3 in 0-day stuff) leads to a warning and then demotion to the previous user-class
A reduction in upload/download stats to accompany this?
Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
i had a very similar plan for a tracker that we where going to launch last year, but the owner went into hiding and i ran out of time ............. and well that was that.
Re: most user classes are outdated and lame
Quote:
Originally Posted by
KennyX
03. Overseeding
Systematic overseeding (ratio>3 in 0-day stuff) leads to a warning and then demotion to the previous user-class
A reduction in upload/download stats to accompany this?
When I said that I have taken into account lots of factors, I really mean it.
For example if someone has ‘’Size Ratio > 4 ‘’in a specific torrent but after seeding it for a long period, then this is totally understandable. The only problem is overseeding, meaning Size Ratio > 3 in 0-day stuff. One way to prevent this is not ‘’A reduction in upload/download stats’’ but a very simple rule.
Size Ratio>3 and Seeding Ratio<0,1 in more than five torrents can lead to a warning (I have edited this to the original post :P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jukesta
where can i find these type of rules
i would like to be in this tracker
A well organized place like this is home for me.
All these are personal proposals and nothing more. This is how I imagine an elite tracker, which unfortunately have founded yet. Whereas all the suggestions I’ve made may seem too complicated, in reality are very simple as all the variables are estimated by Upload, Download & seeding time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SgtMajor
^^ Great post, well done.
I will have to print it off and go through it in more fine detail before I can digest what you have suggested, and then comment more fully, but massive kudos on thinking something through like that and sharing it, thanks.
Thanks mate. Just waiting for your full reply :)
