Ontologically speaking, how can GOD be proven

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by LubTheStaringCat

To those who believe proof Isn't necessary, It's called faith.
Maybe some of you have heard of It.
I don't need proof of the existence god, I just believe.

How many retards will argue Black Is white, personally I couldn't care less about anyone else's opinion.
It's the Individual's opinion or belief that matters, not the mad scientists approach.

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Quite right.

God meets secularism on the battlefield of a man's (or woman's) faith.

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Why doesn't he/she just appear in Times Square, Trafalgar Square, Tiananmen Square etc. I'm sure that would turn the whole World into God fearing subjects.:whistling

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Originally Posted by bigboab

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Quite right.

God meets secularism on the battlefield of a man's (or woman's) faith.

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Why doesn't he/she just appear in Times Square, Trafalgar Square, Tiananmen Square etc. I'm sure that would turn the whole World into God fearing subjects.:whistling

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And abrogate the requirement of faith?

What would be the point.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by bigboab

Why doesn't he/she just appear in Times Square, Trafalgar Square, Tiananmen Square etc. I'm sure that would turn the whole World into God fearing subjects.:whistling

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And abrogate the requirement of faith?

What would be the point.

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To prove to the unbelievers that there is a supreme being. The Bible would no longer be a book based on Chinese Whispers and fables from Aesop.

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Originally Posted by bigboab

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Originally Posted by j2k4

And abrogate the requirement of faith?

What would be the point.

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To prove to the unbelievers that there is a supreme being. The Bible would no longer be a book based on Chinese Whispers and fables from Aesop.

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"Unbelievers" won't believe in miracles either, Bob.

It's easier to attribute phenomena to science, you see, which takes us right back to...faith.

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To prove to the unbelievers that there is a supreme being. The Bible would no longer be a book based on Chinese Whispers and fables from Aesop.

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"Unbelievers" won't believe in miracles either, Bob.

It's easier to attribute phenomena to science, you see, which takes us right back to...faith.

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You accept miracles as the work of God. Why don't you accept disasters as the work of God too? Then again that might negate some of the 'miracles'.

Like the girl who survived the air crash in the indian ocean recently. 'Praise the Lord, it's a miracle'. No mention of the Lords' involvement in the death of the other 153 passengers.:whistling

We will have to agree to differ on religion Kev. However at my age I am keeping my options open.:lol:

There is very little difference between my DNA and a potatoes..

And yet a strain of Flavobacterium is capable of digesting certain byproducts of nylon manufacture, even though those substances are not known to have existed before the invention of nylon in 1935. The three enzymes the bacteria are using to digest the byproducts are significantly different from any other enzymes produced by other Flavobacterium strains (or any other bacteria for that matter), and not effective on any material other than the manmade nylon byproducts... forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an example of Evolution in action?

As I said before, even if that is evidence of Evolution, its not evidence regarding whether God(s)(ess)(esses) exist. Just evidence against Creationism, which is a wholley different, if connected subject.

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Originally Posted by Rat Faced

And yet a strain of Flavobacterium is capable of digesting certain byproducts of nylon manufacture, even though those substances are not known to have existed before the invention of nylon in 1935. The three enzymes the bacteria are using to digest the byproducts are significantly different from any other enzymes produced by other Flavobacterium strains (or any other bacteria for that matter), and not effective on any material other than the manmade nylon byproducts... forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an example of Evolution in action?

As I said before, even if that is evidence of Evolution, its not evidence regarding whether God(s)(ess)(esses) exist. Just evidence against Creationism, which is a wholley different, if connected subject.

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I don't recall creationists making an argument that evolution does not occur, just that perhaps Darwin's theories are not sufficiently rigorous to encompass the sum total of the change they presume to explain.

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Originally Posted by Rat Faced

There is very little difference between my DNA and a potatoes..

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Well, then.

Nothing to do with creationism or evolution. It just proves that RF is a good spud.:whistling

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Originally Posted by bigboab

Nothing to do with creationism or evolution. It just proves that RF is a good spud.:whistling

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I suppose, since merely knowing him wouldn't be taken as proof, not with this crowd.

I mean, if someone were to require proof I enjoy hanging out here on a Saturday morning, that would be as convincing as anything else I could offer up.

Who created God?