Please?

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Originally Posted by bumrocks

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Originally Posted by chow_mein

so your against trading cause its breaks site rules, yet you willing to break them by doing giveaways? :lol:

lets hope you get reported, should you do any :P

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You will not find one giveaway here that I have done...Or anywhere for that matter...Seedhours at TTi are the extent of my past giveaways.

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Except for those giveaways you describe as PTN authorized recruitment.

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Originally Posted by Cabalo

I voted No.

You were one of the few people i actually liked around this shitpool that the BT world is, I wished you genuinely and heartfelt that you would succeed in that tough situation you had in real life some months ago, as you might remember.
Somehow, I believed i could expect more from you in other situations, and you just sat quietly watching things go. I was kinda wrong but I expected more from a friend, and for a long time i blamed it on the fact you often spent a lot of time away from the communities due to your job.

About the trader's hunting here at FST: as you might recall, we had a conversation about this one at castfromsociety.com (notice as I didn't censor the link, as we both have the same mutual respect), and I was taught by you how the process works to link catch a trader. And you might recall that when I caught the first and only one, sometime later I went there and removed all data, and I explained I couldn't do such a thing to FST, a place I like and respect for what it does. It's still written there, as a witness to all this.
We then proceeded to talk via PM, where you told me you kinda felt bad for doing this at FST, as they were some cool guys. I then explained you how morally wrong it is do such things,though funny and easy. This happens in the exact same time Serb approaches me to join his "crew", whom I promptly told I wasn't interested.

But yet, you proceeded.

You hang with some of the worst scum in the BT playground, as one day when you stop to look at it through a 3rd perspective you'll realize. you are their friend, and you stood by their side no matter the issue, forgetting some of the primordial principles of the definition of a community.
You betrayed this forum, its members, its staff, and your friends here. You did it because you want to please someone, who are a cancer. And FST was just some means to you.

Why did I vote no? Because you never forgave a trader (someone who brakes rules). Why should it be any different with you? Be coherent for once.

It's just a minor setback for all the damage you caused to some people for your own self promotion at some circles.
I used to like you, but since you stopped talking to me when the "not cfs material" ban happened, I have every reason to believe you are not the guy I expected you to be. Neither does this forum.

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Ya avin a bobble innit?

How about when you publicly accused me of scamming here at fst? In fact you unleashed your dog on me so you keep your hands clean. What a load of gash.

About bumroks: I really like you mate and you are doing a good job but I had to vote NO cause in life is not only what you are doing but how you are doing it.
tara

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Originally Posted by TrollinThunder

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Originally Posted by bumrocks

You will not find one giveaway here that I have done...Or anywhere for that matter...Seedhours at TTi are the extent of my past giveaways.

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Except for those giveaways you describe as PTN authorized recruitment.

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Recruitment != random user giving out invites.

It's all the same.

it's fair

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Originally Posted by TrollinThunder

It's all the same.

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To each their own, but there is still a fundamental difference.

If the qualification of "random" in your post is the essence of the difference, then you're missing the point.

Giveaways/recruitments are open to whoever is willing to take a couple of screenshots and upload them to an imagehost. Run a speedtest. Answer a few questions maybe.

The difference in who is giving is not important except in the case where a site is actively seeking to stop public giveaways. So it only matters when someone like the OP is out there hunting and reporting the giveaway. It doesn't matter generally who gives the invite because they are already a member. Sure, an authorized giveaway has the express confidence of the staff, but it's who is receiving the invite that matters. It's the random user who receives the invite that is the problem.

I've signed up at so many sites through giveaways, recruitments, irc interviews, http application forms, even trades and friendly trades. I know from experience that those recruitment efforts are hardly more secure than the random user giving out invites because I've never been denied...

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Originally Posted by TrollinThunder

If the qualification of "random" in your post is the essence of the difference, then you're missing the point.

Giveaways/recruitments are open to whoever is willing to take a couple of screenshots and upload them to an imagehost. Run a speedtest. Answer a few questions maybe.

The difference in who is giving is not important except in the case where a site is actively seeking to stop public giveaways. So it only matters when someone like the OP is out there hunting and reporting the giveaway. It doesn't matter generally who gives the invite because they are already a member. Sure, an authorized giveaway has the express confidence of the staff, but it's who is receiving the invite that matters. It's the random user who receives the invite that is the problem.

I've signed up at so many sites through giveaways, recruitments, irc interviews, http application forms, even trades and friendly trades. I know from experience that those recruitment efforts are hardly more secure than the random user giving out invites because I've never been denied...

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I'm not talking about who receives the invitation, I'm talking about who's offering them and under what pretenses.

chow_mein's reply was that bumrocks was breaking tracker rules via his "giveaways", at which point bumrocks pointed out he never did any actual "giveaways", he has only done recruitment. That was the point I was mainly arguing, that he wasn't breaking any rules due to the fact that it was an authorized recruitment thread, and that an authorized recruitment thread cannot and should not be misinterpreted as a "public giveaway" and is in fact not breaking said rules.

Arguments evolve. Just troll with the punches.

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Originally Posted by TrollinThunder

I believe in second chances. I'd be interested to read of your adventures hunting traders. How many heads do you have on the wall? What was your favorite weapon? Etc.

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I wonder if he gave a second chance to the traders he "hunted", maybe once that is answered we can move on.