Re: FTN opened the doors!
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Originally Posted by
Cabalo
GFT sells their invites too.
And yet, there are ways to obtain an invite without donating. I'm simply pointing this out. The same applied for ScT; while donating ensured you an invite, the staff always granted good members invites to bring in new blood. It wasn't unheard of that people who never donated were sitting on 10 ScT invites with no intention of giving any of them out.
The same applies to PTN (where I got an invite to use at my discretion just for a post); HDBits (where staff allow respected members to bring friends in, when the open invites was canceled, and continue to do so) etc. However, the problem here stems from the fact that FTN invites are donor exclusive.
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That given; I don't understand what the big deal is. While one may think that helping the tracker out by in-swarm activity and/or forum contribution, basically being a monumental member, should be the judgmental factor on whether invite privileges should bestowed on him/her; it's simply a false belief. Donations help the tracker just as much as any other sort of activity, if not even more. A tracker selling invites is nothing out of the ordinary and it's just what the BT world has come to. Simple as that; deal with it.
Re: FTN opened the doors!
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That given; I don't understand what the big deal is. While one may think that helping the tracker out by in-swarm activity and/or forum contribution, basically being a monumental member, should be the judgmental factor on whether invite privileges should bestowed on him/her; it's simply a false belief. Donations help the tracker just as much as any other sort of activity, if not even more. A tracker selling invites is nothing out of the ordinary and it's just what the BT world has come to. Simple as that; deal with it.
The big deal is that the site is getting ruined.
I blame this on all parties.
Traders: Your the reason this has gotten this bad, as there is almost no legitimate invites being put to use.
FTN: You shouldn't have given invites out to donors only, rather for a site that rare you should had staff go around a recruit (just one idea I came up with).
Legitimate users: Stop referring people that request ftn to gft. That is the poison that the traders thrive off of. Ftn needs legitimate members more than gft does at this point in time. We must adjust to bad decisions trackers make and as a community try to fix them.
Re: FTN opened the doors!
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Tv Controls you
The big deal is that the site is getting ruined.
I blame this on all parties.
How can you justifiably say that the site is getting ruined? Weren't the invites only given out yesterday? I fail to see how the site could have been ruined in that short space of time.
As has been previously mentioned, what's the harm in giving donors, effectively those who keep the site running financially, an incentive in so far as allowing them to invite someone they should hopefully know to join the tracker/community?
No-one is daft enough to think that it will ONLY be good users who are now able to join FTN, everyone knows there will be traders etc managing to find their way there now, but wasn't that always the case? Admittedly it may be slightly easier for them to do so now, but would I be wrong in thinking that the vast majority of those who do this are simply collecting and will eventually fade away anyway if it doesn't suit them anyway?
The way you seem to be talking just now, it will only be bad users, or traders, or whatever else that joins up... what abut the new members who actually WILL be good for the community/tracker? Why not focus on those? :)
Re: FTN opened the doors!
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Tv Controls you
FTN: You shouldn't have given invites out to donors only, rather for a site that rare you should had staff go around a recruit (just one idea I came up with).
Non-donors are not the ones putting food on their table. Donors are and they have to keep doing whatever it takes to make them donate.
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In most cases the repeat donors that keep a tracker alive do so because they like the place, not because they are expecting perks out of it. In simpler terms, putting more incentives out for donors will only increase the amount of donors not the amount of donations from the current donors.
Re: FTN opened the doors!
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Legitimate users: Stop referring people that request ftn to gft. That is the poison that the traders thrive off of. Ftn needs legitimate members more than gft does at this point in time. We must adjust to bad decisions trackers make and as a community try to fix them.
i agree :)
Re: FTN opened the doors!
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Originally Posted by
Albo Da Kid
Non-donors are not the ones putting food on their table. Donors are and they have to keep doing whatever it takes to make them donate.
I strongly disagree, seeders are the ones putting food on the table.
Seeding is the best donation you can ever give to the BT community. I personally only donate when I really like how a tracker is ran.
Re: FTN opened the doors!
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Originally Posted by
Tv Controls you
I strongly disagree, seeders are the ones putting food on the table.
Seeding is the best donation you can ever give to the BT community. I personally only donate when I really like how a tracker is ran.
Do you think hosting companies would allow their servers to be used for free as long as the site that was ran from it was well seeded? (legal technicalities aside :lol:)
I fully agree that members seeding torrents and keeping them alive is essential to a site in order for their torrents to stay alive... but don't you think it's more important to actually be able to afford the hardware to run your site first?
I'm the same as you in that I'll only donate if I enjoy how the site is ran, and offers something that little bit different from the countless others that are available, but at the end of the day I think myself that it's the donators who initially keep the site alive for those seeders to even exist and build their ratio's on...
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@Burnsy... well explained.. simple logic :D
Re: FTN opened the doors!
I was quickly looking over the trade section here and it seems most of the threads with FTN in the topic title are still people looking for FTN. That probably won't change much even with this new invite policy. Legitimate traders that got invites will still look for equal value (meaning high value) or look to get back something impossible for it. Therefore the invites will still be very valuable and hard to obtain for most traders.
Sure there will be a natural surge in trading activity but it will die down gradually as some of the traders get caught and others lose interest. FTN is still a small tracker which makes it easy to see who's coming and going.
