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mjmacky
You don't quite understand what a sociopath is. To clear it up, a sociopath is
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a person, as a psychopathic personality,
whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
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Therefore, sociopaths have BELOW average social skills. Maybe that's why you're so confused about your insertion difficulties?
From where do you get that sociopaths have below average social skills?
That's the first time I've ever heard that.
That link you posted doesn't say anything about below average social skills. "skills" being the magic word here.
I, on the other, could find dozens upon dozens of references saying that they are more often than not:
highly intelligent
highly manipulative
have absolutely no morals (this does in no way mean they don't know how to act)
do not feel remorse or even have a conscience (in our sense of the word)
do know the difference between right and wrong, but couldn't care less
The perfect sociopath hides his illness so well, that no one knows he or she is one.
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shipwreck
I don't think that OlegL has Asperger's, is a sociopath or mentally deranged in any other way. I just think that he is possessed and in dear need of an exorcism.
Figuring out the demon's name is the first step to heal him.
@OlegL: How do you say this name? LgelO...
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mjmacky, NightOwl is right. The term "antisocial behavior" probably implies that they violate social norms by stealing, killing, and etc. But, as far as I understand, their social skills are usually within normal range. And that's why I said that if I were a sociopath, I would probably not be a virgin now.
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Night0wl
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Originally Posted by
mjmacky
You don't quite understand what a sociopath is. To clear it up, a sociopath is Therefore, sociopaths have BELOW average social skills. Maybe that's why you're so confused about your insertion difficulties?
From where do you get that sociopaths have below average social skills?
That's the first time I've ever heard that.
That link you posted doesn't say anything about below average social skills. "skills" being the magic word here.
I, on the other, could find dozens upon dozens of references saying that they are more often than not:
highly intelligent
highly manipulative
have absolutely no morals (this does in no way mean they don't know how to act)
do not feel remorse or even have a conscience (in our sense of the word)
do know the difference between right and wrong, but couldn't care less
The perfect sociopath hides his illness so well, that no one knows he or she is one.
Actually the magic word was antisocial, which is why I made it bold. Well, I know what you're getting at, but I think it's a matter of defining terms here. You are talking about a different matter (which I'll get to later). So since you didn't take it to the next step (besides visiting the link), I will do it for you.
Let's define antisocial (examples removed):
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1. unwilling or unable to associate in a normal or friendly way with other people
2. antagonistic, hostile, or unfriendly toward others; menacing; threatening
3. opposed or detrimental to social order or the principles on which society is constituted
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When you examine antisocial behavior, such as that of a sociopath, they cannot or refuse to behave in a socially acceptable manner. This would be specific to the environment of the supposed sociopath. What you are referring to are manipulative people (as you used the term yourself). They are not sociopaths. In fact, with the exception of intelligence in most cases, you are describing politicians. We have a list of things we could call politicians, but sociopaths aren't one of them.
I, sir, am a sociopath. Though I may be intelligent, manipulative, lack morals (or couldn't care less about them), that's not what makes me a sociopath. What makes me a sociopath is the absolute distaste in expected social behavior, and in this regard refuse to act sociable. Now, someone who can't act sociable obviously lacks the skill to, and one who refuses to act sociable doesn't present a means of testing their social skill. So dozens and dozens of references that characterize sociopaths as social butterflies that have the capability to suppress sociopathic behavior is merely a departure from the original condition that just happens to captivates interest.
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OlegL
mjmacky, NightOwl is right. The term "antisocial behavior" probably implies that they violate social norms by stealing, killing, and etc. But, as far as I understand, their social skills are usually within normal range. And that's why I said that if I were a sociopath, I would probably not be a virgin now.
No, NightOwl wasn't exactly right here, I covered it in my response to him. You're both confusing sociopaths with something else. You also equate social behavior as being the only means to attracting a woman. I happen to be attractive and incredibly intelligent. Though I have this grand opinion of myself, I am still pretty shy around women. My social skill set (ironic use of term) includes pointing out to them when they're wrong, which would explain why I'm not the kind of guy that could bed or date a majority of the women that may interest me. Sociability is only one quality that has a biological invocation in attracting a mate in this case, are you saying that you have already failed at all the other factors including appearance, financial incentive, and mental stimulation?
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Mjmacky, I don't know, maybe I am an uninteresting person, and that could be one of the reasons I wasn't able to get laid yet. But the kind U.S. government thinks I have a disability, and I get social security disability benefits. Doesn't it mean that if I have this disability, it's my main problem, not my appearance or etc.?..
And, by the way, I still think you are a bit wrong about what defines a sociopath. When I say that they usually have normal social skills, I mean that they are able to make friends, to have relationships and etc... Unless they have some other condition besides sociopathy, they possess just as much ability to make friends as normal people do. I think the word "social" has two meanings. One of its meanings has to do with law and morality, but it can also have the other meaning: the ability to make friends, to get laid, and stuff like that.
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Actually you are exactly right mjmacky, when you say, that I believe many politicians and other high ranking people in society to express antisocial and even sociopathic behavior. We dived quite deep into this subject in school during classes revolving around administration and ethics, as some of the other students also studied psychology.
Not being dragged down by things like morals and remorse can get you far in the world, unfortunately.
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Oleg:
You're describing more a psychopath and not a sociopath. For some reason I couldn't pull that term from memory earlier. Upon reviewing the redeeming qualities of sociopaths and psychopaths, I learned that I'm also a psychopath.
As for you Oleg, the golden standard you're admiring is that of a psychopath. Now, being a psychopath might have allowed to the loss of my virginity, but being a sociopath keeps me stuck in long bouts of monogamous relations. So essentially, make sure you're chasing the correct pathological disorder, otherwise it might not help you get laid. However, those 2 choices are quite limiting, if you want to chase a disorder to get laid, may I recommend the pathological liar. They have the highest success rate of nailing dumb sluts, which is right up your alley.
Night0wl:
Yeah by terms, I think there's a confusion between sociopaths and psychopaths. However, establishing a difference between those conditions seems to receive some of its own debate. I think it's important to make a distinction between the two, otherwise what's the point in having this kind of flexibility in language?
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Common belief is that a psychopath is a psychopath either from birth or from some kind of brain damage cause by e.g. an accident i.e. not something the person has any control over. A sociopath on the other hand was not a sociopath at birth and has developed into one through his/her upbringing or lack thereof as well as effects from events that have occurred during childhood up through the young teens, while the brain is still developing at high rate.
Still there is no known real cure for either one. I read on wikipedia though, that they were starting tests with cannabis, which makes sense, since many of the effects are quite the opposite of antisocial behavior e.g. rage.
Edit: The easiest definition of the difference between the two.
A psychopath can't distinguish between right and wrong
A sociopath can distinguish between the two just fine. He just doesn't give a fuck.
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Okay, I take some of my words back because I said some dumb things. I don't wanna be a psychopath, sociopath, or a pathological liar. I just wanna be a normal person and I just wanna get laid with a hot woman.
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Become a member of theplace and use what you learn there for good instead of evil.