Well It's Democracy

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Originally posted by hobbes@5 August 2004 - 10:26
Come on Arm, reality check time.  Let's not go off the deep end.

As Manny said, and living in South Texas, I can verify, people are literally killing themselves to get in the US.

Did you know that for foreign doctors, if they want to practise here, they must be completely retrained.  So if a fully qualified Indian neurosurgeon wants to work here, he must repeat 7 years of residency and THEN must somehow convince the US government that he is exceptional and should be allowed to practice in the US.

Imagine going to Canada and they ask you to repeat k-6 grades.  That is called a major disincentive.  Guess what, they are coming in droves to do this.

We still have a decent country, perhaps you need to travel the world, as I have, to appreciate what you've got.

Sounds to me like an attitude adjustment would do your whole world-view a great benefit.

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Well the Mexicans sure. America may be crappy but still better then being poor in Mexico.

And spinningfreemanny, your so full of shit. Theres no economic growth. Just because a few hundred thousand Mcjobs are appearing doesnt mean economic growth. What about all the millions of high-tech, high paying jobs that are lost? Lost and arent coming back but are going straight to India. Progress my ass. <_<

And foreign doctors having to be retrained once they get here, maybe having some extra training by a year or 2 but repeating med school again sounds like bullshit to me.

And no we got a shitty country. All our so-called freedoms(which the government and corporations are working hard to take away and have won) we can get in any other developed country in the world, plus more.

And sure ill go to other countries. B) Some time this year or later hopefully ill go to Iran and see how the Persians are. :01: The Iranian youth is starting to like heavy metal you know. :o

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Originally posted by Arm@6 August 2004 - 00:26
And spinningfreemanny, your so full of shit. Theres no economic growth. Just because a few hundred thousand Mcjobs are appearing doesnt mean economic growth. What about all the millions of high-tech, high paying jobs that are lost? Lost and arent coming back but are going straight to India. Progress my ass.

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lol, I didn&#39;t make up the words economic growth by myself. Its actually documented and scientifically proved through mathmatics. I guess you can always try to prove math wrong. :huh:


Edit: A poll came out with 79% of small business owners voting for Bush and 15% for Kerry. Why do you think that is? maybe it&#39;s actually going good for them and a basic economics class will tell you that small business dictates true economic growth.

It&#39;s still complete fantasy.

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Originally posted by MicroScreen2@5 August 2004 - 18:12

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Should gays be given the right to marry ?

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yes

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but not the right to adopt ?

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not yet

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thanks for clearing that up, you where getting lost in the debate and i for one am fine with your viewpoint.

I wouldn&#39;t want to ban gay adoptions personally but on this issue i can see both sides as valid.

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Originally posted by Arm@6 August 2004 - 00:35
It&#39;s still complete fantasy.

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Well refuted...

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Originally posted by vidcc+5 August 2004 - 19:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vidcc &#064; 5 August 2004 - 19:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@5 August 2004 - 18:09
You guys were touting this thread (last page) as "idealistic crap".

In truth, it does not quite rise to that level.

Please keep trying-

Sincerely,

j2

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HUH ?[/b][/quote]
mutter, mutter, murmur, buzz, mutter...

People continually insist on broadening and/or outright changing the definitions of words.

Guess what?

My Toyota is now a Ferrari.



Here&#39;s what I want:

I want someone here to justify appropriating the term "marriage" for use by our gay population, when everything else has been profferred under the term "civil union"?

Keep in mind that, in light of the extra-special specialness of a gay coupling, any other wordings arising from whatever creative constructs can be arranged through full access to all 26 letters of the alphabet would be allowed.

I hereby submit "clopnoferrowiage" as a possible term.

unholy matrimony?

lol

Unritualistic antiagnostic matrimony.

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Originally posted by MicroScreen2@6 August 2004 - 00:42
unholy matrimony?

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translates too easily to demonic matrimony

neutral matrimony