Sikh School To Be Built In Slough, England.

Why don't you read what's posted BEFORE you make a fool of yourself? l already explained to you how the government gets their 90% back, and more, so they end up making a profit.

The school will teach the national curriculum, just like any other school, but instead of having christian prayers at morning assembly they will do whatever Sikhs do, what's wrong with that? Where is the government "selling out for 10%"?

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Was it said that the school will teach Sikh school ideology? Yes

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No-one knows what ideology they will be teaching so this is more rubbish.

Sheesh! Some people just can't admit they were wrong, at least Hobbes states quite clearly that he is stating an opinion.

Spurious:
Lacking authenticity or validity in essence or origin; not genuine; false.

Specious
Having the ring of truth or plausibility but actually fallacious: a specious argument.

Whatever --- take your pick. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

So basically the UK government awards grants to qualified applicants to decrease classroom sizes regardless of extra curriculum.
Yes it does award grants to qualified applicants....... It is not regardless of extra curriculum.... if the extra curriculum fails to qualify...for example they what to teach white supremacy...the school would not have qualified fro the grant
What's weird is that they are funding 90% and selling out for 10. :huh:

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How are they selling out?

I would like to once again make it clear that Britain doesn't have a constituional seperation of church and state. This is because in the most part is it not needed. The British don't generally tend to be as religion orientated as the USA, most of the traditional churches will be lacking attendance, and come election time people will be voting for a government...not a spiritual leader....this is not to say that the british don't believe in god. Odd thing is that the most devoted groups to their religious traditions do tend to be those that are either immigrants or come from families that are fairly new to the country.
If the school in this case was to be a C of E school i doubt it would have made the news apart from the local papers.


Before anyone says "I am british and i am serious in my religion" i am making a generalisation.

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Originally Posted by busy

Do any of those teacher's teach Sikh ideology? Yes or No?

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I can't answer that any other way except that they may or may not...chances are that any religious lessons will be in the form of the "assembly/ morning prayer" where the whole school gathers in a hall.
As i said my niece attends a church school in the Uk and the only religious teaching she has are readings during morning prayer/assembly. The rest of the day is spent on the national curriculum.

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Plus UKResident said once open it's 50% funded. Is that correct?

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I can't vouch for the accuracy of the figure but it would seem to be a reasonable number

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Originally Posted by Busyman

So basically the UK government awards grants to qualified applicants to decrease classroom sizes

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It's not to decrease class size. It only happens if there is a need for a new school. the class size has a maximum and if the local school have not achieved that maximum then there would not be a need for the state to supply funds for a new school

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Originally Posted by UKResident

Spurious:
Lacking authenticity or validity in essence or origin; not genuine; false.

Specious
Having the ring of truth or plausibility but actually fallacious: a specious argument.

Whatever --- take your pick. :rolleyes:

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Neither work. I've only used the facts given to form my own opinion.

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Originally Posted by JPaul

I wasn't suggesting your argument was specious, only that it may have been the appropriate word for UKProxy's intended meaning.

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No problem J.

You merely gave more rope for UK's suicidal hanging. ;)

Ah, the personal stuff, this must mean you've run out of ideas then, good.

That was a joke, and was part of a longer piece, as you well know. But it's OK, you can get personal, l really don't mind, l find you quite amusing.

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... your explanation is patently specious.

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You've been waiting to use that word, l can tell. ;)

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Originally Posted by JPaul

It didn't come across as a joke. Particularly when one of your first posts to me included "How's Mary", or similar.

Others can decide whether you were attempting to be humorous when you posted it. I simply don't believe you, your explanation is patently specious.

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"Specious"- could you stop using that word, at all?

OK..

I couldnt be bothered to read the last few pages so..

1/ Parents have a right to choose where their children are taught.

2/ It is illegal for a school to refuse admission on the grounds of Race/Religion etc.

3/ They cannot make children go to the extra religious element, and children have the right to refuse to go to them.


As I said earlier, the Catholic Schools in particular, in this area have a waiting list to get in.

These children are from all religions/races.

The Catholic Church sponsors the schools so that the Catholic Faith will be made available to Catholic schoolchildren in the area. They usually have a presence on the board of Governors.

At the end of the day though, just like any school in the UK (except Public Schools (read: Private Schools for those in the USA))... Its the Governors that decide School Policy and who they want to sponsor them, if anyone...

ie: The Parents of the children of that school (or in this case, the parents of the community the school was to be built in)



Im all for schools getting extra funding if they can. I'd much rather they did this than followed the US route where some schools are marketing Coca Cola etc and selling it to raise cash (as an example) etc etc