Re: 2nd amendment V private comapny
Gun laws (which are amazingly inconsistent) and company policy are two separate things and even if the state allows the actual carrying of arms that doesn't mean you can carry them everywhere. Government buildings and private land are examples.
As I said the constitution isn't just about guns. It covers many freedoms and although one may have a certain freedom that doesn't mean that freedom overrides another's different freedom.
Any sensible gun owner respects this and I think it a reasonable assumption that one that doesn't perhaps isn't the sort of person that one would be happy to have a gun.
Re: 2nd amendment V private comapny
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Originally Posted by JPaul
Sorry, I'm causing confusion.
If the state in question has laws which allow the company to have such a ban.
If the company has the ban in force.
If he knowingly broke the ban.
If it's a sackable matter.
Then they have every right to sack him.
Based on what the link you provided shows, it's a "no brainer".
The important issue is whether the laws of the state allow this.
If however people are arguing that he did in fact have a constitutional right to own / bear the weapon but that the company was still entitled to sack him, then they are arguing that State law / company policy is more important than your constitution.
Which is what I find to be strange, particularly as I always thought you chaps held the constitution to be sacrosanct.
Law in general is but it isn't absolute or else we wouldn't need it interpreted.
Again, this fella could decide to bring the gun into the office 'cause the Constitution made no distinction.
I could bring a gun into AAFB. It's my right.
Re: 2nd amendment V private comapny
Sorry, I don't understand AAFB.
So, do you have a constitutional right to have a gun. Or can that not be answered.
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Originally Posted by JPaul
Sorry, I don't understand AAFB.
So, do you have a constitutional right to have a gun.
Sorry, Andrew Air Force Base.
and yes. The fella in the article can still have a gun.
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Originally Posted by Busyman
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Originally Posted by JPaul
Sorry, I don't understand AAFB.
So, do you have a constitutional right to have a gun.
Sorry, Andrew Air Force Base.
and yes. The fella in the article can still have a gun.
Thanks for the AAFB.
Re the next part, I didn't mean him specifically.
Do citizens of the USA have a constitutional right, under the second amendment to your constitution, to have a gun.
Re: 2nd amendment V private comapny
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Originally Posted by JPaul
So, do you have a constitutional right to have a gun. Or can that not be answered.
Generally speaking you have the right to have a gun. There are exceptions to this and various laws controlling ownership. Not everyone has that right and it depends on which state one is in as to who can or cannot have a gun and in some places what kind of arms.
Groups like the NRA are extreme and believe in unrestricted gun ownership and gun carrying. They are trying to force a company to allow guns on their property by means of a product boycott.
Americans do hold the constitution sacred. The problem is that not everyone interprets it the same way.
Re: 2nd amendment V private comapny
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Originally Posted by JPaul
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Originally Posted by Busyman
Sorry, Andrew Air Force Base.
and yes. The fella in the article can still have a gun.
Thanks for the AAFB.
Re the next part, I didn't mean him specifically.
Do citizens of the USA have a constitutional right, under the second amendment to your constitution, to have a gun.
Already answered.
Re: 2nd amendment V private comapny
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Originally Posted by vidcc
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Originally Posted by JPaul
So, do you have a constitutional right to have a gun. Or can that not be answered.
Generally speaking you have the right to have a gun. There are exceptions to this and various laws controlling ownership. Not everyone has that right and it depends on which state one is in as to who can or cannot have a gun and in some places what kind of arms.
Groups like the NRA are extreme and believe in unrestricted gun ownership and gun carrying. They are trying to force a company to allow guns on their property by means of a product boycott.
Americans do hold the constitution sacred. The problem is that not everyone interprets it the same way.
I'm only really interested in how the Courts interpret it. As we are discussing a matter of law.
So, if I understand you right, with regard to the specific issue of gun ownership, not the Constitution as a whole..
All else being equal a person may have the right to own a gun in one State. However if they were to move to another State, then they may not have the same right.
Which means that, for this specific issue, the States interpret the meaning of the Constitution and it therefore varies from State to State.
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Originally Posted by JPaul
I'm only really interested in how the Courts interpret it. As we are discussing a matter of law.
Ok I shall re-word it...not every justice interprets the constitution in the same way and there will always be people disputing the rulings of the court.
Re: 2nd amendment V private comapny
Dont the bears get a bit pissed off?
Whats wrong with your own arms?
