The reporter was in Denmark.:ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
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The reporter was in Denmark.:ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
How the fook did he figure that, then?
I've been to Denmark, and that's def not how I'd describe them.
I'm figuring he's only describing the "good" parts he went to. :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
I mean he was there. He even talks with the Imam from Denmark that raised the stink and sent copies of the cartoon to the Middle East.
He describes the stark contrast between the Muslim parts and the rest of Denmark.
That clip (hopefully) should be about 15 minutes long. The show runs about 45 minutes and they do 3 stories plus Andy Rooney.
edit: They probably cleaned up for the reporter.:P
15,000 atheists in London rioted after a blank sheet of paper was found on a cartoonist's desk :)
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Originally Posted by Cheese
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Originally Posted by Vargas
sorry, i was to lazy to check all 33 pages in the thread :OQuote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
Understandable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vargas
I had heard the joke before Cheese posted it too.
Still funny though.
Yeah, watched what there was of the clip all the way through, he seems to have been there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
But he really can't have been paying attention. Or they did a very good job of avoiding like 95% of what was actually there.
Last I was in Copenhagen some junkie walked right into me, and then started swearing at me, in danish (which I kinda' understand, as it sounds like swedish spoken with a mouth full of porridge), 'cos I'd "walked into her".
The place looks like a run-down, dirtier version of Sweden to me (no offence to any danish people, your laws are better in general, anyhow).
I didn't even know that there were any specifically muslim parts, if they didn't make that up. I thought it was like it is here, where they just live like the rest of us. Recent immigrants tend to get put in specific areas tho', but that's for logistical reasons, you get put where there is room when you've not yet become a part of society and can't provide for yourself.
Anyway, he should see the free-zone/free town/Christiania in Copenhagen.
I'd hate to see what you'd put if you did want to offend Danish people! :schnauz: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
Hehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
There's nowt wrong with Denmark, anyhow, or I wouldn't have gone there.
And their laws aren't as strict when it comes to a lot of things.
I used to know a Danish girl, she was filthy. :naughty:
And burning up mosque's and hanging pig's head at their doors after killing Danish director in Denmark is noting?Quote:
I saw Talibans blowing up buddhist statues, I saw Bin Laden and other Talibans claiming responsibility for planning terrorist attacks, I saw people being interviewed after the Talibans had been driven off, and they didn't seem very unhappy.
U must agree that religion racism is in every where.
The binladen thingy is different thing; they had noting to do in Afghanistan government.
Ohh and mercenary operation is done by all country's, like US interfering in Africa.
in all governments there are some peoples who are with them and who don’t that why there are opposition parties, if u see 80% of population of Afghanistan still continue the left over rules(women in scarf’s), its the way those people think, same thing goes for Iraq.
Did u saw any thing in graves, making graves and Set's r easy, what so doubtful is the numbers, where in the hell they got 6million Jews at that time.Quote:
I've seen Auswitch, I've seen where the showers were, and were the massgraves were situated. I've seen recordings of witness-statements from both germans, civilians and soldiers and non-jewish soldiers on the allied side. I've seen pictures from the camps, and heard the stories of survivors, I even saw one hold a speech, when I was very little. Saw the tattoo and all.
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/2hol...amcartoo-1.jpg
Do u even read history, it’s was British who give Jews that peace of occupied land, its was America who armed Jews to take what they want by force. Who did u think were Nazi people, they were the same German blood and they hated Jews (what u guys say), how can u deny that in Europe there was no hate for Jews. Let face that in history the Jews were hated by all (no offence meant).Quote:
Personally, I think you are growing more unpleasant with every post you make.
Neither myself, nor any member of my family, nor my nation had anything to do with the creation of the state of Israel, and it's my understandning that those people who went there, went there willingly, even eagerly. Which at least in part had to do with their religion.
Furthermore, there are plenty of Jews all throughout the western world, here too, whose families never left for Israel, and who most certainly were never driven out, and who, again, has the rights that everyone else does, in my country.
Then how u can’t sue condalisa rise for denying secret prison camps in Europe with thousands of Muslims whom r being tutored.Quote:
If he stands up and says it never happened, that is certainly him metaphorically spitting every survivor in the face, and a denial of the fact that they suffered.
Why nobody sues Sharon for 100's of mascaras (instead they support him).
That’s now (maybe) but in WWII the only advantage they was staying away from war (Soviet Union), they simply could leave the country cuz they were not welcome in army.Quote:
Furthermore, there are plenty of Jews all throughout the western world, here too, whose families never left for Israel, and who most certainly were never driven out, and who, again, has the rights that everyone else does, in my country.
How u can say that, Prophet Mohammad was every Muslim’s Prophet, he means a symbol of our religion to us.Quote:
The cartoons on the other hand, were by all accounts not intended to hurt the average Muslim on the street. And, it would be a Muslim bloke's right to draw the same sort of cartoons about jesus, if he felt like it, in Denmark.
And we don’t draw other prophet cartoon to show that what they did was offended, as I said before all prophets (Noah, moss, eissa and Mohammad) are named in Quran and we respect them not just because we fear god, during our education we’re regularly thought about them.
Muslims being tutored, perhaps by Sharon of 100 mascaras?
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You being a mod should know not to post something that is off-topic AND instead of making a point, just pointing out someone's grammatical errors. 2 things have been shown here by Afronaut:Quote:
Originally Posted by Afronaut
1) Mods are pretty damn hypocritical
2) Generalization that everyone on earth speaks perfect English, and those that don't...well they're just labeled stupid.
Sorry, I'm just really pissed off today, as for BaWa's post:
1) You can't really counter-argue Iran's PM speech about how the holocaust never took place by saying something like there are tourture camps in Europe. Such a thing not only does not exist (and if it does, it changes very little things about your rebuttle), it is counter-productive.
Instead of saying that Iran's PM was wrong in saying that, you just countered it by saying "what about such and such"? Well that's like subtracting unlike variable, it doesnt make sense.
(I don't know who Bawa quoted, so this is directed to whoever was quoted in Bawa's last post)
2) (Not Bawa's post): You must really be fuckin smart eh? Shiz, did you get your history pHD at the school of shitology? Or are you just pulling some sort of colorful crap out of your ass? This is exactly what is happening to more and more people nowadays, they are believing the media more and the past is now becoming whatever the media wants it to be. Ask your average Joe or Jane (no not Americans, this is targeted towards everyone) about the current situation in the ME and who is right. I can guarantee a lot of the answers are going to be "Israel is right" or something along the lines of that, such things make me wanna puke in their faces. Israel WAS created by the UK and with support from the US. (However I must point out that the UK did give weapons to the Palestinians). Where do you think Israel get it's annual military budget from? I dont know about you (and trust me, if you disagree on me on the next point doesnt matter who you are, you're either a fuckin liar and a hypocrite, or a just backboneless individual), but I certainly would pick up a gun and fight for my country and my freedom and my land if some other occupying force just happened to come over and take over Canada because some UN resolution passed allowing another party to legally take over my country.
The last sentence is true for everyone (unless you were obviously being oppressed before...even then it has anamolies). Would you not fight for your right, fight for your country, and your land that you have been leaving on peacefully for oohhh I don't know, generations upon generations?
Another thing is that the Jews and the Arabs lived peacefully before Hitler came to power. It's when the Jews started to move out of Europe and into Palestine (pre-1945) that things got heated (UK giving weapons to Palestinians).
If anything (and this goes for BaWa and every other Jew hater, or Arab hater, or w/e), Hitler is the one to blame. If it was not for him, there would be no WWII, there would be no Israel (albeit it probably would have been created sometime in the future if the set of events went the way it did, but who's to say for sure?) and most of all there would be 6 million more Jews on this earth (that last statement is not racist, I hate it how when people say something that "sounds" racist and is targeted towards Jews, they automatically and spontaneously consider it to be racist).
So in conclusion, everyone STFU.
Muslims chill the fuck out, they're pictures, it's not the end of the world. FFS, we're not even Muslims. ANY MUSLIMS THAT SAYS HE'S A MUSLIM nowadays is just plain out lying. Real muslims died out years ago. I can tell you taht a real muslim would not kill, maim, burn and steal/riot over a bunch of stupid pictures and use Islam as a shield.
It's very very disgraceful. The other day (yes I'm muslim, and yes that last statement was oxymoronic and a paradox for sure. I'm muslim in the sense that I was born into a "muslim" family but I don't really follow it what-so-ever) I received an email from some el-fago that said to spread the word about boycotting Danish goods. What in the fuck? And at the bottom of the email the dumbfuck had the nerve to put "Remember, one day Muhammad (PBUH) will ask you what you did for him and Islam, so do the right thing."
I literally wanted to punch the guy out if I knew who he was, and worst of all, all "muslims" are buying into this chain-letter bullshit. Muslims are giving Islam a badname, any shred of respect for Islam from the outside world (non-"muslim") have diminished into an infinitismely small amount.
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So ya, STFU everyone, the sooner we can ignore the so called "muslim" (population), the sooner this will die down.
And the cartoonists that made those pics, I support you 100%, freedom of speech cannot be usurped away by radicalism because it seems Islam is the official shield for wreaking havoc. [sarcasm] It's totally fine to kill others and go fucking crazy over a bunch of pictures because it's against our religion...[/sarcasm] even though such things (murder, rioting, stealing) are completely against our religion...so wait? Paradox anyone.
Everyone's a fucking hypocrite (yes even me, I won't be a hypocrite and I'll add myself to the list).
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If you actually read this entire post, kudos for not having a brain seizure due to bad grammer and inconsistent sentences (me no good english). And if any of it made sense, then at least someone out there understands where I'm coming from.
Heh heh. You said "fag".Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt_azad
being a hindu, I find it hard to believe how many muslims there are in India, and how many mosques. I've seen mosques built where hindu temples were built.Quote:
U must agree that religion racism is in every where.
THEY OWNED FUCKING AFGHANISTAN!!! THEY WERE THE GOVERNMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
The binladen thingy is different thing; they had noting to do in Afghanistan government.
If they didn't interfere, everybody would be dead by now, from AIDS and STD and civil wars. :dry:Quote:
Ohh and mercenary operation is done by all country's, like US interfering in Africa.
Where do you fucking think they'd find the jews? It's not hard, there were plenty of jews living there. They killed 6 million jews from: Germany, Poland, Austria-Hungary and the surrounding countries. You sound as if you tihnk Jews are a minority everywhere. and when you see one, you should be able to say, 'Hey look its a JEW, I thought I'd never see one, can I have your autograph'Quote:
Did u saw any thing in graves, making graves and Set's r easy, what so doubtful is the numbers, where in the hell they got 6million Jews at that time.
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Do u even read history, it’s was British who give Jews that peace of occupied land
thats all I have to say.
I read all of azad's post, very interesting thoughts. BAWA's gonna flame you for not being pure-blooded muslim.
bawa's a prick though so it doesn't matter ;)
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Originally Posted by BawA
Don't you think it is a little hypocritical to post a cartoon mocking the Jewish Holocaust in a thread were you are complaining about people publishing cartoons mocking your own faith.
Also, can you read what the top left hand corner of your cartoon says? Or, more importantly, can you understand what it means? Maybe in future you should not get your holocaust jokes from an Israeli site?
From the same page:
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/iran...rtoonfunny.jpg
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/iran...seo480213.html
Bawa, who the fuck feeds you this nonsense?
Mosques being burned in Denmark, director being killed? :blink:
When, and what the fuck are you talking about?
Torture camps... <-That's a lie, made up, a fabrication, not real. Get it?
And I dunno' what you mean about mascaras, I really don't.
As for the talibans, well, maebach said it: They ran the fucking place!
As for the holocaust, how stupid are you, to think it's made up. What sort of fucktard propaganda have you been fed?
It would, as I've already said, have been impossible to make that up, and fool us all. Discounting the graves and whatnot that exist today, there's a whole lot of history they had to have faked.
Most people back then had nothing to do with the jews, but they saw enough to believe, unless you are trying to say it's a vast conspiracy spanning generations everywhere in Europe, and beyond.
And we don't all hate jews, most people here and elsewhere don't worry more about the jews than any other people. And Europe isn't a country, you can't point at what some Germans did in the 1930s and 1940s, as an example of what people think in my country today, you jackass.
As for the creation of Israel, it was felt, by certain parties that the jews were owed something because of what they'd been through, because some had waited so long to act, and to see what was going on, I reckon.
I'm sure there were other, more political reasons as well, but hatred of jews was not the motivator.
And yeah, there were and are lots of jews all around the world, many more than the six million said to have been killed during the holocaust, certainly.
And those six million were, again, as maebach says, gathered together from more than one country. How few people do you think there are in the world, really, If you think six million members of an ethnic group such as the jews is an impossible number?
And captain azzz, I hope your #2 wasn't directed at me, especially so since I'm european, but neither british, nor american, nor a citizen of any country that was a major player in the war, hence my country had fuckall to do with the creation of Israel.
Don't fuck with afro, Bawa really doesn't deserve respect, not after what he's been saying, and the lies he's perpetuating.
And as for the cartoons themselves, I've said this like three times already:
The cartoons seem to have been aimed at fanatics, you know, the blokes who tell people to grab a bomb and go and blow up innocents.
It's a way of saying: "This is the mohammed you believe in, this is what you've turned him into" to them.
Unless you really think mohammed and allah want people to kill innocents, that's not the mohammed you believe in.
I think he's talking about Theo Van Gogh. He was called by a muslim radical because he made a fil on women in islam, or something like that. I guess after he was killed, people burned down mosques in Denmark :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
theovangogh
At least I think thats what he meant.
Yeah, but asda is an interweb fantasist tit, which trumps a prick in anyone's book.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
That bloke got murdered by a muslim fundamentalist in the Netherlands over a year ago, so I suppose that's where any mosques got burned, and churches got burned too, not just mosques.Quote:
Originally Posted by maebach
I've even seen people write that the mosques got better protection from the police, but I dunno' about that.
You have to admit that him trying to act as the voice of reason in here is downright hilarious, tho'.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Yee, it's fuckin hilarious aint it dumbass? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
Someone please just lock this thread, BaWa will never be able to comprehend what I or the rest of the board is trying to say.Quote:
"Hi my name isSnnYFaggot, how may I suck your cock today?"
He's an understanding person, he will try to comprehend, have faith. :mellow:
THEY OWNED FUCKING AFGHANISTAN!!! THEY WERE THE GOVERNMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
The binladen thingy is different thing; they had noting to do in Afghanistan government.
i meant Bin Laden not taliban http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/images/icons/icon2.gif
You know, sometimes you almost have me convinced you've got an IQ over 70, then you go and make some shit up, ie: "I do steroids and I've just beaten up a burgular, lolz, roflmao...", and sometimes it's well nasty, like inciting people to scam twelve year olds, or you try and act all righteous when you haven't got a clue of what's going on, or some other jackassery like in this thread (are you pretending to be an "intellect" again? :unsure:), and I know my first impression was right :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt_azad
Whoever lets the monkey type, can you take the keyboard away from him? it's embarassing.
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Anyhow, mods, don't close it, let it play itself out (you can cut this out tho', if you think things are getting nasty).
I'm still hoping BawA'll calm down and start thinking critically, he may be acting all kinds of predjudiced and uninformed right now, but I s'pose he's caught up in some sort of hysteria, over yonder.
Yeah there's this cartoon that's coming to poke their eyes out.:blink: :pinch:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
That’s shows your not aware of any sh*t.Quote:
Bawa, who the fuck feeds you this nonsense?
Mosques being burned in Denmark, director being killed?
When, and what the fuck are you talking about?
Torture camps... <-That's a lie, made up, a fabrication, not real. Get it?
U dont know anything about history (when you said about Israel).
Theo van Gogh, he was the main reason why those cartoon where made, if he wasn’t to make his freaking movie he wouldn’t piss his murderer and a hate wouldn’t rise in Denmark against Muslims after that, many mosque were burnt and damaged buy local residents in Denmark. FFS watch some news.
I never said "NO JEWS WERE KILLED", I only doubted the numbers, I think that huge number is to maximize whole thing.Quote:
As for the holocaust, how stupid are you, to think it's made up. What sort of fucktard propaganda have you been fed?
You’re more pissed then the way EU acted after Iran's PM's speech, I wonder if u have same Fillings for Bosniaherzogoving.
I think board members know better who to respect, the guy with poor English or the guy who uses his "good" English to curse and swear.Quote:
Don't fuck with afro, Bawa really doesn't deserve respect, not after what he's been saying, and the lies he's perpetuating.
What lies ive been telling? If u believe that much in freedom of speech u should respected what I think and my right to say them.
U say there r better way for Muslims to show their sadness and their view over those cartoon and they shouldn’t been burning flags well same thing goes to your self, if the cartoonist wanted to prove something he could go with something more decent, he knew the consequences but he choose to do what he wanted and the results r here.Quote:
And as for the cartoons themselves, I've said this like three times already:
The cartoons seem to have been aimed at fanatics, you know, the blokes who tell people to grab a bomb and go and blow up innocents.
It's a way of saying: "This is the Mohammed you believe in, this is what you've turned him into" to them.
Unless you really think Mohammed and Allah want people to kill innocents, that's not the mohammed you believe in.
To Cpt Azad...
Not going on the way of Islam doesn’t mean u should abandon it, as a Muslim u should try ur best no matter how best is that. Take it this way, drinking one drop of alcohol doesn’t make you unforgivable, u can always go back after all Allah is RAHIM.
and I don’t share the same thoughts with you about not having real Muslims now(a simple example is my mother) but I do believe today’s Muslims r less Muslim then what they've used to be, but only Prophets r absolute mankind’s, away from any mistakes and humans r mistakable.
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Thanks http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/images/icons/icon1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
Bawa
I think there is perhaps too much distrust and inaccurate reporting on both sides.
The mosques in Europe are not on fire - who says they are? Likewise, many of the peaceful demonstrations against the cartoons have been ignored by the Western media. The violence that has occurred and the deaths, about 150 so far, and rising, seems wholly disproportionate to the original problem from a Western standpoint and causes more distrust and unease.
The original cartoons were not especially cruel or nasty and were making political points about bombers using Islam as a cover not religious ones. To be perfectly honest, few in the West are interested in Islam - it hardly sits well with our culture and lifestyles. I don't think anyone wants to insult Muslims but train and plane bombs do attract attention - mostly the wrong sort of attention. The noisy radicals give the impression that they speak for all of Islam. It is up to the ordinary Muslim to show that they do not. Violent protests with huge numbers of dead do not help this cause. The Turks had a huge demonstration in Istanbul without killing anyone or burning any embassies. Is this not a better way?
With regards the killing of Jews in WW2, I am baffled as to why this is an issue. The documentation is there. A lot of people died in WW2 - upwards of 35 million and possibly more. Why this sudden questioning of whether the Germans really did what they say they did? The Jewish holocaust was not the only one of WW2. The Japanese death camps in China killed huge numbers and the Germans were responsible for the deaths of 20 million Russians. In turn the Russians killed several million Germans. The only valid gripe that I can see regarding the Holocaust is that it tends to blur the fact that WW2 was a holocaust for a lot of peoples including Gypsies, Slavs and Manchurians. However, the solution is to raise awareness of these other attrocities rather than diminish the one that occurred to the Jews.
to be honest thats one quality post :thums up:
i can say thats a no sided post.
but still Prophet Mohd is a symbol of our religion and pointing finger at him is pointing finger at muslims generaly, and people who want to point our negitive points should find better exampels, our Prophet did what he could do to educate us, to direct us at "Right", its some of us who go to so called the "wrong way" he shouldnt be held for that.
thats my final words in this thread.
At Bawa, I doubt the numbers as well but I have no idea what the real numbers are either. :idunno:
Based on what, pray tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Just to inform, im not a moderator anymore. have not been for couple of months.
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Iknowhope Bawa could type with little more sense sometimes
so that I as a non-english-linguor could understand the post.
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Again, who has fed you the nonsense you believe in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BawA
It wasn't hatred of jews that made the british, and americans (AND NOT MY PEOPLE, 'K?) help create Israel.
If you are going to keep insisting that your idiocies are correct, please provide me with one solid, unbiased source, as evidence of what you said. Please.
Go for it, genious.
He was dutch, the mosques and churches burned there, after his death.Quote:
Theo van Gogh, he was the main reason why those cartoon where made, if he wasn’t to make his freaking movie he wouldn’t piss his murderer and a hate wouldn’t rise in Denmark against Muslims after that, many mosque were burnt and damaged buy local residents in Denmark. FFS watch some news.
Why would the Danes go out their way to pick a fight with you, as you seem to think they wanted, over something that happened in another country?
Go and get the facts straight.
Is there anyone, anywhere, who has claimed that the numbers are off wrt Bosnia, then?Quote:
I never said "NO JEWS WERE KILLED", I only doubted the numbers, I think that huge number is to maximize whole thing.Quote:
As for the holocaust, how stupid are you, to think it's made up. What sort of fucktard propaganda have you been fed?
You’re more pissed then the way EU acted after Iran's PM's speech, I wonder if u have same Fillings for Bosniaherzogoving.
And before you start rambling about "toture camps" in Europe, please take a moment to reflect on what the things that happened in old Yugoslavia didn't just affect muslims, and that the war wasn't about muslims versus everybody else.
Some serbs held bosnians and croats in concentration camps, some croats held bosnians, and probably serbs, and so on.
Those serbs who perpetrated the initial crimes weren't aiming at the bosnians because they were muslims, the were trying to cleanse what they saw as their land from other peoples. Then, as the war escalated, I suppose the other side(s) lost their minds as well, there was plenty of ethnical cleansing, but it wasn't about you.
They weren't exclusively muslim concentration/death camps, they were camps where one side or another put those who they saw as enemies.
And it most certainly wasn't Europe as a whole that committed the crimes.
It was two peoples, in one nation (well, technically three, now).
Oh yeah, and they can't be the camps you mentioned before, since you wrote:
No one, except for the people who committed the crimes, denied what happened in Yugoslavia, so it can't be those camps you are talking aboutQuote:
Then how u can’t sue condalisa rise for denying secret prison camps in Europe with thousands of Muslims whom r being tutored.
Where are those secret camps where muslims are being tortured then?
As far as I know, you made them up. So yeah, lies. Evil lies at that.
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I think board members know better who to respect, the guy with poor English or the guy who uses his "good" English to curse and swear.Quote:
Don't fuck with afro, Bawa really doesn't deserve respect, not after what he's been saying, and the lies he's perpetuating.
What lies ive been telling? If u believe that much in freedom of speech u should respected what I think and my right to say them.
Have you read what you posted lately?
You've claimed all kinds of things about Europeans, including my people, things that most certainly aren't true, and you've thrown in a denial of the holocaust, or as you'd have it now, a doubt of the number of people that died, and btw, as long as we are on the subject, would it matter if it was only 3 million people or something who died in that horrible way?
Feck, claiming that we all think alike, and that we have the same constitution, and all of the statements you've made about us all being some sort of homogenous group, is not just stupid, it's sort of an insult all of its own.
Or do you like it if someone says that all arabs are the same?
At least my insults have been personal, I've called you a jackass, I haven't insulted, and accused everyone in your part of the world of being against me, or any other, more horrible things. Without evidence to back it up, at that.
How does that answer what I said? It doesn't.Quote:
U say there r better way for Muslims to show their sadness and their view over those cartoon and they shouldn’t been burning flags well same thing goes to your self, if the cartoonist wanted to prove something he could go with something more decent, he knew the consequences but he choose to do what he wanted and the results r here.Quote:
And as for the cartoons themselves, I've said this like three times already:
The cartoons seem to have been aimed at fanatics, you know, the blokes who tell people to grab a bomb and go and blow up innocents.
It's a way of saying: "This is the Mohammed you believe in, this is what you've turned him into" to them.
Unless you really think Mohammed and Allah want people to kill innocents, that's not the mohammed you believe in.
You chose to interpret the cartoons in the worst way possible.
Now, what is worse - a couple of blokes making a few drawings, insulting nutjobs. Or millions of people rioting, burning flags, killing and getting other killed, or like you do, accusing people who had nothing at all to do with the making of the cartoons, of all sort of idiotic things.
You made the choice to refuse to even try to understand what the actual purpose behind the cartoons might have been. You have made the choice to alienate yourself from the rest of the world. And you have decided to insult all of Europe, without having a fucking clue what you are talking about.
In my book, Your bad > His bad.
So yeah, I'll swear and I'll insult you to my heart's content, 'cos you deserve all you get, by now. And, everything I say about you, is about you, not muslims in general.
proxy hiccups.
Dutch mosques burned...? it was just a few dumb kids that had to little to do and were too dumb to think by them selves. Only 1 small fire at a mosque, and 1 school burned down. Still too much but as Bawa proves there are a lot of dumb and ignorant people in the world.
Bawa, i'm pretty sure that Mo... was a good guy that wanted the best for the people, too bad that the people writing his words in the koran twisted a lot, and even worse, there are a lot of people that use those written words and interpret it the way they like it to be interpreted. With the low education level in most of the muslim countries you get people that haven't learned to think for themselves, taking the words of the people that just can read, as granted.
btw same thing goes for christianity in general, with the difference that education level in most of the western countries is higher and people start to think for themselves. With that religion gets far less important and the radical and fundamentalistic ideas get lost. So now i'm just hoping they get more education in the middle east and east. Give people the tools to think for themselves, give them work, a good home and a future to care for. And they won't get upset by some cartoons anymore. They will worry about real important things in life....
Fucking thing is that the ruling people in the muslim countries (most times religious leaders) are just trying to avoid that... Cause that will end their reign! Simple as that....
I really think that if the people would have a chance and the political/religious leaders would not interfer, there is a solution for palestina (and all the other conflict regions in the world). I'm sure people will live together in peace, no matter what colour or religion they are. Build houses and help eachother out. feed eachoter, trade with eachother, hell, even mary eachother.
There are no real boundries between people and countries. It's only imaginary lines that too bad are sometimes abused by people that are in search of power.
You're Wrong there, Quran was writen by Prophet Mohammed once and is never been Editen (Unlike bible), its been untouched and editing it is a big sin for us.Quote:
Bawa, i'm pretty sure that Mo... was a good guy that wanted the best for the people, too bad that the people writing his words in the koran twisted a lot, and even worse, there are a lot of people that use those written words and interpret it the way they like it to be interpreted. With the low education level in most of the muslim countries you get people that haven't learned to think for themselves, taking the words of the people that just can read as granted.
so u think that people are not allowded to think in religion matters(here), our prophet himself mentioned in quran that not to choose Islam just becuz u were born muslim, he said to reserch and find the answers for "why's".
religion is big part of our lifes(e.g we have to pray 5 time a day) we cant just leave it.
not beliving in the religion and not giving it any piority is why u have huge numbers of rapes, molestations, gay and lesbian's over there, there r no bounderies for u guys, u just keep doing what u want(so called "freedom").
we have strict rules for them, thats why our avarages over above mentioned cases are almost zero. churches have child molestations cases and gay fathers(for god sake is that a god house or devils), we have christians over here, notting wrong goes with them, u know why cuz they have more power in thier beliving then you.
btw i forgot to tell you that u have a nice vision built up for islamic countries, u think all islamic countries are like iran or pakistan, well that not true, mostly we have a mix compenition of islamic and democratic rules(for eg. we dont allow to drink on streets so u go nuts and make problem for others but we have some special places for them).