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Originally Posted by Barbarossa

torque is turning force, innit.

how hard it turns, like. :idunno:

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That sounds right, onomatopoeia and all.

So what does it mean when a car has zero torque?
Cos like a Mazda RX8 has zero torque :eyebrows:

Edit: lol wtf numbers Skweeks. I'm not some kind of car mad maths genious.

Perhaps you can only drive a Mazda RX8 in a straight line :smilie4:

I presume the actually mean that there net zero torque.
I believe it means that there is no excess force, it is constant, therefore there is no friction so it is more effective.

But then again, car people aren't phycisists. So who the fuck knows?

Also : http://www.khanacademy.org/science/p...tion-to-torque
You only need to watch it for 2 minutes. Then he explains what it is.

Ffs.

Can't you tell us? I like it when you tell us.... :(

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Originally Posted by Skweeky

I presume the actually mean that there net zero torque.
I believe it means that there is no excess force, it is constant, therefore there is no friction so it is more effective.

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:lol: :crazy:
Yours and barbie's posts made me lol for entirely different reasons.

Thanks, both, but I think I'm gonna have to wait for Bo.
He's like the two of you combined and tempered.

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Originally Posted by Skweeky

Also : http://www.khanacademy.org/science/p...tion-to-torque
You only need to watch it for 2 minutes. Then he explains what it is.

Ffs.

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No it's okay. I understand what torque is now, I just need to know why a Mazda RX8 doesn't have any.
Thank you, though, hidden depths girl <3

I don't know what on earth happened there o_O

I'm going to give this one more go, for Barbie's sake:

Imagine you are the wheel of a car.
The engine is exerting a force on you which makes you want to rotate
However, because there is a heavy car above you and a lot of ground below you, there is also a force exerted between you and the ground (because of the pressure).
If the force coming from the engine is equal to the force coming from the ground, then the result is zero torque and whatever you are doing will not change. (if you are not rotating, you won't start rotating, if you are rotating, the speed will not increase or decrease).

Specially for you I have been reading up on Mazda RX8s and why they have no torque. According to the forums, it just has very low torque, so it means the force coming from the engine won't be much more than the force counterbalancing it, therefore it won't be very agressive at pulling away or accelerating.

okayyyyyyyy......

Surely every stationary car has zero torque then, or cars would be spontaneously rolling all over the place out of control!!!!

Well yes, because imagine if your car was made of paper, if the wind was strong enough it would blow it along unless you countered it with another force blocking the rotational force exerted on the wheels.

Thank fuck I bought an office chair with zero torque.
Typing this post would be a nightmare.

In related news; Surprisingly, I now completely understand the torque/Mazda conundrum.
Cheers, Skweeks :]

Hooray!

What is a bit weird though is that I thought the Mazda RX8 I drove had fantastic acceleration.
But whatever. I guess it was all smoke and mirrors because of the screeching and preconceptions I had.

Well I don't really get it at all, but I don't want to press the point for fear this thread would become as dull as the bike thread :dabs:

Poor Barbie :no:
At least you have your phoatieshop talents to fall back on.

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Originally Posted by manker

What is a bit weird though is that I thought the Mazda RX8 I drove had fantastic acceleration.
But whatever. I guess it was all smoke and mirrors because of the screeching and preconceptions I had.

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I don't think it's about how effective it is at accelerating, it's more about how agressively it does it. Like, you know when you put your foot down and you feel this moment of pull just before you accelerate? If you have high torque, you would feel that pull more. Torque is also referred to as moment of force (I think) so this pull is just the time where it is gaining momentum.

Although frankly, I could be wrong. I am applying my physical understanding of torque on this but it could be that it means something slightly different in motoring.

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Originally Posted by Skweeky

Poor Barbie :no:
At least you have your phoatieshop talents to fall back on.

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That's Bo you're thinking of.
I get them mixed up, too.

Easy way to remember is that Bo is black.

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Originally Posted by Skweeky

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Originally Posted by manker

What is a bit weird though is that I thought the Mazda RX8 I drove had fantastic acceleration.
But whatever. I guess it was all smoke and mirrors because of the screeching and preconceptions I had.

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I don't think it's about how effective it is at accelerating, it's more about how agressively it does it. Like, you know when you put your foot down and you feel this moment of pull just before you accelerate? If you have high torque, you would feel that pull more. Torque is also referred to as moment of force (I think) so this pull is just the time where it is gaining momentum.

Although frankly, I could be wrong. I am applying my physical understanding of torque on this but it could be that it means something slightly different in motoring.

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So are you gonna get another cat or wot :ermm:

I don't have one at the moment :o
So yes.

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Not bad, barbis

Brilliant, Barbs.

You must be back already. You're not internetting at the pub, that doesn't seem like something you'd do.
But anyway, how was the gin soaked soak and his surroundings?

torque is basically what barbie and skweeky said, to make it simple think of horsepower as how much power it can put out to make the car move and the torque is what helps get the power down to the tyres on the road, more torque helps with towing and stuff too. It's a lot more than that but that's enough for what you're after, like.
i'd guess an rx8 not having much torque would be cause it's a wankel engine instead of a normal engine, no idea why tho', i know feck all about them.

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Originally Posted by manker

You must be back already. You're not internetting at the pub, that doesn't seem like something you'd do.
But anyway, how was the gin soaked soak and his surroundings?

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The pub is like forty-five seconds away. It was bereft of spastics until I turned up. Sat in the rather nice smoking garden and tried to read that fucking Game Of Thrones nonsense. I want to know what happens, but I have to read like 1600 pages of wank before I even catch up with the tellybox show. Woe is fucking me. I've started, so I'll finish. Had two pints of Harp, smoked heavily. Bought six Asian looking beers and came home.

I'm wanking as I'm typing this, btw.

I read all the GOT stuff. I can totally tell you anything you need to know.

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Originally Posted by Proper Bo

torque is basically what barbie and skweeky said, to make it simple think of horsepower as how much power it can put out to make the car move and the torque is what helps get the power down to the tyres on the road, more torque helps with towing and stuff too. It's a lot more than that but that's enough for what you're after, like.
i'd guess an rx8 not having much torque would be cause it's a wankel engine instead of a normal engine, no idea why tho', i know feck all about them.

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Wankel engines use rotation to drive instead of pistons. I'm not sure how that would affect the torque, but I am guessing it may have something to do with piston motion having more periods of momentum than a rotational engine would have?

Just guessing now though.

I'm halfway through the first book, Skweeks. I'm actually enjoying the nuances and back histories that don't figure big in the TV show. I'll get through it.

Can't help thinking I could be wasting my time with something better, though.

Watched Paddy Barnes sting yon Indian for a bronze. I can't stand his voice, so when the interview came on I just put the volume on moot.

Boom fucking boom, children.

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Originally Posted by chalice

I'm halfway through the first book, Skweeks. I'm actually enjoying the nuances and back histories that don't figure big in the TV show. I'll get through it.

Can't help thinking I could be wasting my time with something better, though.

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I read all the books over Christmas, loved them. I spend most of my time studying these days so whenever I read for recreation I tend to choose fantasy or something similar that requires no mental effort.

The rx8 has 156 lb-ft of torque btw, that's not much less than my diesel civic had as standard so I don't know who told ewe they have no torque but i'm guesising it was one of your hairdresser mates.

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Originally Posted by Skweeky

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Originally Posted by Proper Bo

torque is basically what barbie and skweeky said, to make it simple think of horsepower as how much power it can put out to make the car move and the torque is what helps get the power down to the tyres on the road, more torque helps with towing and stuff too. It's a lot more than that but that's enough for what you're after, like.
i'd guess an rx8 not having much torque would be cause it's a wankel engine instead of a normal engine, no idea why tho', i know feck all about them.

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Wankel engines use rotation to drive instead of pistons. I'm not sure how that would affect the torque, but I am guessing it may have something to do with piston motion having more periods of momentum than a rotational engine would have?

Just guessing now though.

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Just guessing at where to put a curly-whurley more like?

Hoi, Bojak, what was the festival like, you strange satire-punk hybrid creature.

Review or fuck the fuck out.

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Originally Posted by Skweeky

Wankel engines use rotation to drive instead of pistons. I'm not sure how that would affect the torque, but I am guessing it may have something to do with piston motion having more periods of momentum than a rotational engine would have?

Just guessing now though.

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Just guessing at where to put a curly-whurley more like?

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I like your ironic approach?

It were good, like.
The lineup wasn't as good as usual but we still got whopped and pished to the macks and had a kwality thyme.
I didn't even get into any 'disagreements' this time:smilie4:

It was a bit shit how rancid, stiff little fingers and agnostic front were all on at the same time tho', ended up watching rancid cause i've seen slf and agnostic front more times than dave has posted about That Woman.

Neville Staple was feckin kwality too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htNT4-Ezn50

Noice.

Bo, did you know that manker is going to see the Foo Fighters in Belfast so he can meet up with chavis to go on the bender of the decade?

True story.

chavis is bender of the decade? :o