New Orleans to Get Free City-Wide WiFi

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New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has announced that the entire city of New Orleans will be blanketed by a free WiFi network within a year. This move is expected to boost the city’s economy that was all but destroyed from the Hurricane Katrina disaster.

Thanks to Intel Corp., Tropos Networks and Pronto Networks who donated most of the hardware necessary for the project, these hardwares will be mounted on top of street lights in order to cover the whole city.

The network will operate at a speed of 512 kilobits per seconds, until the city’s state of emergency is lifted, which will then drop to a 128 kilobits per seconds in accordance to state laws restricting government-owned internet services.

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It's nice to see that Mayor Nagin still has the city's priorities in order. :dry:

Yeah, what an asshole.

He should be in the same canoe as most of the N.O. police force: OUT OF WORK.

Well he has already purchased a home in the Dallas area.

Heck of a way to "roll your sleeves up" and show your fellow citizens you're going to stay and help out Nagin. :dry:

N.O. is ferked up bad right now. People lost their homes, jobs, everything. I honestly don't think this project will be much of a help.

The state is really a mess and we have no leadership to take charge and problem solve.

It’s good to know that there is WIFI available throughout the entire city when there are still parts with no electricity and clean drinking water.

multitask: n.

Often used of humans in the same meaning it has for computers, to describe a person doing several things at once. The term multiplex, from communications technology (meaning to handle more than one channel at the same time), is used similarly.

jargon

umm...ooookay. :blink:

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Originally Posted by Skizo

umm...ooookay. :blink:

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What is causing you confusion?

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Originally Posted by Skizo

umm...ooookay. :blink:

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What is causing you confusion?

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Your're in the wrong thread.

Compton's Encyclopedia/Dictionary is down the hall, then make your first left.:ermm:

Explain to me.

What is wrong about doing more than one thing at a time?

Sure the electric and water isn't up in all places yet, sure there are still houses not rebuilt. Is the suggestion that the people that are tasked with these are somehow going to be hindered because other "less urgent" tasks are being carried out ? Has this work stopped to carry out other tasks? Are resources being taken away ?

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Explain to me.

What is wrong about doing more than one thing at a time?

Sure the electric and water isn't up in all places yet, sure there are still houses not rebuilt. Is the suggestion that the people that are tasked with these are somehow going to be hindered because other "less urgent" tasks are being carried out ? Has this work stopped to carry out other tasks? Are resources being taken away ?

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It's about priorities. There are so many other items on the list that need to be attended to before a city-wide WIFI stsyem is installed. That should be item #694 on his list. Instead, it's underway and to be completed within a year. I mean c'mon. I can just see him in the conference room while the levees are being repaired, discussing WiFi. :dry:

EDIT: You know, after thinking about this, it makes perfect sense. Residents who don't have cars or couldn't afford gas to drive out of the city in the face of Katrina have a real need for wireless connections don't they?

Perhaps it will help "boost the city’s economy that was all but destroyed from the Hurricane Katrina disaster"? I'm just guessing like but that's what I got from the article.

Getting electricity to the rest of the city and getting residents (workers) back in their homes will do much more for N.O.'s economy that free WiFi. That's where he needs to concentrate his "efforts".

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Originally Posted by Skizo

Getting electricity to the rest of the city and getting residents (workers) back in their homes will do much more for N.O.'s economy that free WiFi. That's where he needs to concentrate his "efforts".

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Agreed. How will citywide Wi-Fi help the economy?

Money and resources have to be allocated to get it. There shouldn't be 1 cent allocated "to get on the internet".

This is something that established cities do, not ones that have just had the equivalent of a bomb dropped on it.:dry:

I like Nagin somewhat but he's being fucking stupid.

Use a context similar to that applied to Iraq.

Three months after the coalition invades, Baghdad is still sans much of it's infrastructure (electricity, water, etc.).

Bush announces city-wide Wi-Fi.

See what I mean?

This omits the fact that New Orleans is (and will be, likely for years) in much worse shape than Baghdad.

The only good that will come out of all this is Mayor Nagin and the pinhead Governor will never get re elected. With the lower east N.O. being completely wiped out they lost a whole demographic of voters, which won them the elections last time. Those people aren’t coming back because most of them had nothing before the storm so their living conditions improved with getting relocated to other cities.

I met a guy who was from N.O. while I was in Chicago waiting for a flight home after the second hurricane. I saw he was using a Red Cross credit card so I asked if he was from N.O. and he told me yes. We talked for a while and he told me that he got a job in Chicago making more than twice than what he was being paid before and he was staying in a nice neighborhood. I asked if he was even going back and he said hell no that he’s much better off now than he ever was and his family felt a lot safer now.

Edit: Nice analogy J2

Internet > fresh water, electricity, education, people

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It worries me that Americans have so little confidence in their own ability to do more than one thing at a time.

I was unaware that nobody was working to fix the power lines. Although that would require civil electrical engineers and not communication engineers. But you are right, perhaps the communication engineers should stand around and do nothing or be given shovels.
To me it seems a case of we are rebuilding so we might as well do it while we are at it.

If there was a case of they are putting wifi in instead of fixing the other stuff I could see your point but in all honesty it looks like they are doing it as well as fixing the other stuff.

Honest question.

Does NO have a city owned electric supply or is it a private company?
Same question about the water supply

I think that you’re having trouble grasping the scope of this Vid.

It’s been three months since the hurricane and there are still areas that are wastelands. Places that are completely littered with debris that needed to be cleaned up so that the roads can become passable again. It needs to be a all hands on deck type thing to clean the place up and make it livable first and not divert resources and man power to installing the internet that people can’t even use.

This is exactly what I mean by no leadership. Everyone in this mess has to work together as a team with everyone pulling in the same direction to rebuild the infrastructure.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

It worries me that Americans have so little confidence in their own ability to do more than one thing at a time.

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You're talking about a city that is the remnant of what it was; a Stone Age place.

Multi-tasking is a bit of a dream.

No doubt some of that is taking place, by there is no "cyber" aspect apparent.

BTW-

Mayor Nagin?

A little early to be running for re-election, isn't it?:P

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

I think that you’re having trouble grasping the scope of this Vid.
I get it perfectly well thanks

It’s been three months since the hurricane and there are still areas that are wastelands. Places that are completely littered with debris that needed to be cleaned up so that the roads can become passable again. It needs to be a all hands on deck type thing to clean the place up and make it livable first and not divert resources and man power to installing the internet that people can’t even use.
so you think communication engineers should be given shovels
This is exactly what I mean by no leadership. Everyone in this mess has to work together as a team with everyone pulling in the same direction to rebuild the infrastructure.

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And installing wifi as well as all the other stuff is pulling in the opposite direction how?

I agree with the poor view of nagin and his abilities in an emergency situation , however this seems to be more about politics that substance. If this was a case of J2's "ideal world" and the private sector was in charge, we would be hearing "all hail the private sector, look they are so efficient we even have wifi"...

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

I think that you’re having trouble grasping the scope of this Vid.
I get it perfectly well thanks

It’s been three months since the hurricane and there are still areas that are wastelands. Places that are completely littered with debris that needed to be cleaned up so that the roads can become passable again. It needs to be a all hands on deck type thing to clean the place up and make it livable first and not divert resources and man power to installing the internet that people can’t even use.
so you think communication engineers should be given shovels
This is exactly what I mean by no leadership. Everyone in this mess has to work together as a team with everyone pulling in the same direction to rebuild the infrastructure.

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And installing wifi as well as all the other stuff is pulling in the opposite direction how?

I agree with the poor view of nagin and his abilities in an emergency situation , however this seems to be more about politics that substance. If this was a case of J2's "ideal world" and the private sector was in charge, we would be hearing "all hail the private sector, look they are so efficient we even have wifi"...

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There's underground cable, telephone poles with aerial cable, central office network, etc to be taken care of.

DC doesn't have citywide wifi and is teaming with internet users so is it even a splinter in the mind's eye of NO? A citywide wifi does not boost the economy of NO unless goods and services are from....NO through that wifi network.:dry:

I bet their most basic communication infrastructure is fucked in many parts of the city.

SDRAWKCABSSA

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Use a context similar to that applied to Iraq.

Three months after the coalition invades, Baghdad is still sans much of it's infrastructure (electricity, water, etc.).

Bush announces city-wide Wi-Fi.

See what I mean?

This omits the fact that New Orleans is (and will be, likely for years) in much worse shape than Baghdad.

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I don't understand.:huh:

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Originally Posted by vidcc

If this was a case of J2's "ideal world" and the private sector was in charge, we would be hearing "all hail the private sector, look they are so efficient we even have wifi"...

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If the private sector were in charge, they'd be pressing for re-location.

In any case, they'd get it done faster, better, cheaper, and, yes, there would probably be WiFi, but only in due course.

Apparently you are having trouble gauging the scope of this.

Everyday new areas are made passable that previously weren’t where bodies are being recovered. There are still thousands that are missing or unaccounted for that families are desperate to know where their loved ones are. So if everyone can do pitches in and works together you can achieve something faster. So yes I would put a shovel in the hands of a communications engineer because he’s an able bodied worker that can help to speed up the task.

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

Apparently you are having trouble gauging the scope of this.

Everyday new areas are made passable that previously weren’t where bodies are being recovered. There are still thousands that are missing or unaccounted for that families are desperate to know where their loved ones are. So if everyone can do pitches in and works together you can achieve something faster. So yes I would put a shovel in the hands of a communications engineer because he’s an able bodied worker that can help to speed up the task.

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There were some technicians from Verizon sent down to help with the communication work and they end doing "other shit" to help.

Things just kinda work out that way.

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

Apparently you are having trouble gauging the scope of this.
Not at all. To me it seems that you are unable to gauge the vastness of the ability to achieve things the USA has at local and national level. An odd view in my opinion and possibly even a defeatist view.

Everyday new areas are made passable that previously weren’t where bodies are being recovered. There are still thousands that are missing or unaccounted for that families are desperate to know where their loved ones are. So if everyone can do pitches in and works together you can achieve something faster. So yes I would put a shovel in the hands of a communications engineer because he’s an able bodied worker that can help to speed up the task.

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Ok lets keep all the restaurants closed as the waiters are able bodied. Auto repair shops as well.
Good manpower management is not about numbers, it's about putting the right people in the right place.

BTW I thought the "clean up" was in the hands of no bid private contracts...surely this means it was done yesterday :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

Apparently you are having trouble gauging the scope of this.
Not at all. To me it seems that you are unable to gauge the vastness of the ability to achieve things the USA has at local and national level. An odd view in my opinion and possibly even a defeatist view.

Everyday new areas are made passable that previously weren’t where bodies are being recovered. There are still thousands that are missing or unaccounted for that families are desperate to know where their loved ones are. So if everyone can do pitches in and works together you can achieve something faster. So yes I would put a shovel in the hands of a communications engineer because he’s an able bodied worker that can help to speed up the task.

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Ok lets keep all the restaurants closed as the waiters are able bodied. Auto repair shops as well.
Good manpower management is not about numbers, it's about putting the right people in the right place.

BTW I thought the "clean up" was in the hands of no bid private contracts...surely this means it was done yesterday :rolleyes:

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Waiters have shit to do with basic government infrastructure.

A citywide wifi network managed by the government for people to enjoy the internet has shit to do with basic government infrastructure as well.:dry:

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

Apparently you are having trouble gauging the scope of this.
Not at all. To me it seems that you are unable to gauge the vastness of the ability to achieve things the USA has at local and national level. An odd view in my opinion and possibly even a defeatist view.

Everyday new areas are made passable that previously weren’t where bodies are being recovered. There are still thousands that are missing or unaccounted for that families are desperate to know where their loved ones are. So if everyone can do pitches in and works together you can achieve something faster. So yes I would put a shovel in the hands of a communications engineer because he’s an able bodied worker that can help to speed up the task.

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Ok lets keep all the restaurants closed as the waiters are able bodied. Auto repair shops as well.
Good manpower management is not about numbers, it's about putting the right people in the right place.

BTW I thought the "clean up" was in the hands of no bid private contracts...surely this means it was done yesterday :rolleyes:

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I’m not saying that we aren’t able to chew gum and walk at the same time what I’m trying to say is that we need to prioritize. Lets get all the man power that we have get the cities vitals back up before we focus on getting them internet access.

Most of the businesses there are shut down anyway because there are no people to patronize them. Bourbon St. has reopened but it’s more of a symbolic thing and the airport is open but it has very limited flights arriving.

Now the airport is open but its very eerie in there because there is only one terminal open, one baggage claim that works and all the restaurants and shops inside are all closed.

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

I’m not saying that we aren’t able to chew gum and walk at the same time what I’m trying to say is that we need to prioritize.
Have these "priority tasks" not been addressed? is no action being taken? have they been ignored?

Lets get all the man power that we have get the cities vitals back up before we focus on getting them internet access.

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Where does it say the focus is Internet access ?

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New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has announced that the entire city of New Orleans will be blanketed by a free WiFi network within a year.

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It is one of the projects in the reconstruction. It is not taking priority over the "cities vitals"
Judging by this over reaction one might think that Nagin said we are putting everything on hold so we can install wifi
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I just don’t understand why worry about something like that now.

I can tell you for a fact that there is no way in hell that city will be close to back to normal in a year. As J2 pointed out it really is like Baghdad there but without tanks.

Lets just say you used to live and work in the city of N.O. Since the hurricane you’ve been staying at a relatives because your house isn’t livable and has to be torn down and rebuilt. You are also unsure if you will have a job to return to when are finally you are able to move back to the city because your employer pulled out of the city and relocated. How would you feel if the Mayor of your city was talking about getting the internet for the entire city instead of worry about your home or job?

What will they use it for? Look for a job? Probably not. Look for more handouts? Probably. Look for porn, like certain people who used the money the government and others gave them to get back on their feet, but instead used it at strip clubs to pay for lap dances? Definitly.

seriously i don't think this is gonna make a dent in the budget, and it's gonna rawk some. maybe they could look on wikipedia and get educated :ermm:

Come on guys, after losing all their belongings, beds, linnen and blankets..they are going to be blanketed with WiFi, which will be very handy in the sub-artic temperatures of New-Orleans...

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Originally Posted by vidcc

Where does it say the focus is Internet access ?

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New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has announced that the entire city of New Orleans will be blanketed by a free WiFi network within a year.

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It is one of the projects in the reconstruction. It is not taking priority over the "cities vitals"
Judging by this over reaction one might think that Nagin said we are putting everything on hold so we can install wifi
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Money sure is being spent on it and at a time when every dollar is needed.

It's fucking stupid. DC doesn't have citywide wifi and it'd benefit the city more than NO.

Picture that and take it into perspective.

"A bomb just dropped on the city and one project we are undertaking is citywide wireless internet access. This will help boost the economy.":ermm:

Citywide internet access is something you put in when the fucking city has a heartbeat....IF EVER.

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Thanks to Intel Corp., Tropos Networks and Pronto Networks who donated most of the hardware necessary for the project, these hardwares will be mounted on top of street lights in order to cover the whole city.

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It's fucking stupid. DC doesn't have citywide wifi and it'd benefit the city more than NO.

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Unless work on the other rebuilding stops or slows down to do this I can't see why the complaints

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It's fucking stupid. DC doesn't have citywide wifi and it'd benefit the city more than NO.

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Unless work on the other rebuilding stops or slows down to do this I can't see why the complaints

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Money sure is being spent on it and at a time when every dollar is needed.

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Add to the fact that government run wifi spots are rarely viable and usually shut down.

It doesn't do the city good (especially this city) and drains money.

What part of it aren't you getting? It's as dumb as the NO government wanting to cover a buildings with PB & J...even if other work isn't stopping.:ermm:

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What part of it aren't you getting?

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Oh I get you point of view, I just don't agree with it.

@Vid incase he missed it:

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Lets just say you used to live and work in the city of N.O. Since the hurricane you’ve been staying at a relatives because your house isn’t livable and has to be torn down and rebuilt. You are also unsure if you will have a job to return to when are finally you are able to move back to the city because your employer pulled out of the city and relocated. How would you feel if the Mayor of your city was talking about getting the internet for the entire city instead of worry about your home or job?

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I am trying to make sense of this.

The only thing I can think of is it someway helps not only the City workers but FEMA inspectors?

I know right now a lot of people whose homes weren't totally destroyed are commuting into the City to repair them. From what I have heard a lot of them (homeowners) are now waiting on inspections to be made by the City. A lot hinges on these inspections, because if the City determines they have actually had to make repairs over fifty percent of the home's value, they have to rebuild said home to comply with their flood plain ordinance........such as ON STILTS. This is even if their insurance company's tell them their damage was only forty percent. I could see where this would help with correspondence that way.

That is really the only sense I can make of this. Of course, there is always Economic Development. :D