I'm actually going to buy a new computer this time...need opinions.

Well, I've decieded that I am going to buy a new computer near the end of January and I just wanted the opinions of the computer people here.

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CPU:AMD Athlon64 939 3500BP+/2.2GHz CPU(FSB400,512K L2 Cache,Boxed,Venice)
MOBO:MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard(AMD Socket 939,PCI-E, SATA/Audio/Gb LAN/1394)
RAM:OCZ4001024V25DC-K 2x512M DDR400 Value Dual Channel(2.5-4-4-8,Lifetime warranty)
VIDEO:Sapphire ATI Radeon X850XT 256M GDDR3 (PCI-E, TVO/DVI)
HD:Seagate 160G SATA Hard Drive (NCQ, 8M Buffer, 7200RPM)
CD/DVD:LG 16X DVD-ROM Black
CDRW:LG 4167B 16X DVD-R/+R Dual Layer DVD Writer Black
FLOPPY DRIVE:Samsung 1.44M Floppy Drive Black
SOUND:Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS 7.1 Sound Card (OEM)
LAN:Integrated 10/100M Ethernet Adapter
CASE: Antec Super LANBOY Mid-Tower (No PS,Aluminum,F-AU,WD,Silver) 
POWER:Enermax EG465P-VE FMA 460W Power Supply (20/24, dual-fan)
O/S:XP Home

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Price: $1519.15 after tax. What do you guys think about my RAM, Case and power supply choices?

Crits needed, I am paying 1500$ for it.

- Dual core if you can.
- No need for 3 1/2 floppy, but since they're cheap....it's your money
- OS should be Windows XP Pro, Home is teh sux

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Originally Posted by cpt_azad

- Dual core if you can.
- No need for 3 1/2 floppy, but since they're cheap....it's your money
- OS should be Windows XP Pro, Home is teh sux

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agreed. get the athlon x2. cheaper dual core with performance comparable to $800 cpu's.

ditch the x850xt and the 7.1 sound card. do u even have a 7.1 speaker system? save up some $$ and get urself a 7800gtx. what's more important? graphx or sound? :dry: i say visuals

and are you buying windows xp home? wtf are u thinking m8? this is a filesharing forum! :naughty: :naughty: :01: :01:

and get an asus mobo

Why a dvd-rom and a dvd±rw?

I've got the same motherboard, but the model down from it (K8N NEO4-F) and am happy with it. Has eveyrthing I need.
Compare the two boards and see if the extra features are really worth the extra price...

The board also has 7.1 channel sound onboard, so dump the sound card for now until you try the onbaord sound...if you really dont like it you can always order that card later on.

Dump the dvd-rom drive and just go for the burner.

Alrite, 1500$ is really my limit so I wont be getting a 7800, nor a X2 (mabye 6 months- a year down the road)


Is the X850 any good? is it really worth 300$ CAD? And I guess Ill save 70$ and dump the 7.1, but I dont want any lag. Would trading the sound card for another stick of 512 do me good?

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CPU:AMD Athlon64 939 X2 3800+/2.0GHz Dual Core CPU(FSB400,2x512K L2,Boxed)
MOBO:MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard(AMD Socket 939,PCI-E, SATA/Audio/Gb LAN/1394)
RAM1:OCZ4001024PDC-K 2x512M DDR400 Premier Dual Channel (2.5-3-3-7)
RAM2:OCZ400512EL 512M DDR400 PC3200 (2-3-2-6)
VIDEO:OCZ400512EL 512M DDR400 PC3200 (2-3-2-6)
HD:Seagate 160G SATA Hard Drive (NCQ, 8M Buffer, 7200RPM)
CD/DVD:Seagate 160G SATA Hard Drive (NCQ, 8M Buffer, 7200RPM)
CDRW:Liteon SOHW-1693S 16X DVD-R/+R 4x Dual Layer DVD Writer Black
FLOPPY:Samsung 1.44M Floppy Drive Black
SOUND:Integrated 5.1 Channel Surround Sound
LAN:Integrated 10/100M Ethernet Adapter
CASE:Mecca Mid-Tower Case Black (ATX 400W,front Audio/USB,w/Window)
POWER:ATX Power Supply (Built-in with Case)

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No OS (expecting help getting that cost free;) )

How we like?

Why did you change a reasonable case and PSU for a pile of crap? Ok, your original case was possibly a little pricey (depending on taste) but the PSU was about right.

The one you've chosen now is at the rock bottom end of the scale. I have to query how long it is on average until the PSU fails in those things. Ok, you'd get a new PSU, but you'll find you aren't covered for the consequential loss of your other parts.

If you want a cheap case, that's ok, but dump the crap included psu and get a decent one.

Alrite, sorry I dont know these things lol. Ill go back and up my price too 1600$ to get the good PSU

Besides that, anything else?

Canuk did you not just get a Laptop for xmas?

I wish lol...

i dont think x850xt has pixel shader 3.0. Get a 7800gt, it'll last you much longer. Also eVGA is shipping me a free copy of quake 4, plus eVGA comes with life time warranty :D . Oh and yeah, you need atleast a 450w power supply to run it. I recommmend an antec smartpower 2.0 500w powersupply for 70$. I really wouldnt recommend an amd 3500. amd 3000 can easily be overclocked to the performance of the 3500, so you'd be saving yourself some good money...

vid card i recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130247

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Originally Posted by cpt_azad

- Dual core if you can.
- No need for 3 1/2 floppy, but since they're cheap....it's your money
- OS should be Windows XP Pro, Home is teh sux

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The Venice is Dual Core.

I wont be ordering online because I do not own a credit card, I will be going to this place:

www.cty.ca

EDIT: Woha, theres no way I can afford a 7800GT, I think I will stick with my curent card for now, and upgrade if needed down the road. As long as I have a good mobo I'm happy.

use your parents credit card....

BTW do you mean 1500$ Canadian dollars?

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Originally Posted by Formula1

The Venice is Dual Core.

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not.
I have a Venice.
90nm single core.
of course I would be more than willing to sell it off to you as an X2. :shifty:

Manchester, Toledo, those are duals.

What vid card did you choose and did u remove that dvd rom drive?
In your new listing those 2 items are kinda screwed up :P

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Originally Posted by Formula1

use your parents credit card....

BTW do you mean 1500$ Canadian dollars?

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They wont let me, and yes CAD.

@ Rossco, I'm sticking with the X850 cause thats the most I can afford.

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Originally Posted by TheCanuk

I'm sticking with the X850 cause thats the most I can afford.

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not a bad card at all, you should be OK with it

personally, I'm tired of all this nVidia fanboy shit
I fell for it once, with the 6600GT, big fuckin mistake :dry:

get what you can for now, the X850 should be fine, and,
later if you want to go heavier on gfx,
well by then the X1800 will be further along in development,
then you can look at high end cards from both ATi and nVidia,
and decide what suits you best

-edit- and good deal on dumping the sound card
the Audigy2 is fucking shitty, I speak from experience
TBO, I really think my onboard sound was better than this POS Audigy2
(I think I posted that same opinion in another thread)
I need to uninstall it and go shoot it :P

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Originally Posted by Formula1

i dont think x850xt has pixel shader 3.0. Get a 7800gt, it'll last you much longer. Also eVGA is shipping me a free copy of quake 4, plus eVGA comes with life time warranty :D . Oh and yeah, you need atleast a 450w power supply to run it. I recommmend an antec smartpower 2.0 500w powersupply for 70$. I really wouldnt recommend an amd 3500. amd 3000 can easily be overclocked to the performance of the 3500, so you'd be saving yourself some good money...

vid card i recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130247

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The Venice is Dual Core.

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No, no its not.

So you guys think this system will run BF2 at highest settings lag free? (system lag, crappy 1mb connection :P)

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Originally Posted by TheCanuk

So you guys think this system will run BF2 at highest settings lag free? (system lag, crappy 1mb connection :P)

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never played BF2 :P
but I do believe that an X850XT should handle it fine

all I know is this 6600GT still struggles on feckin C&C Generals,
w/ a 3500+ Venice, 1GB dual channel, low latency Patriot RAM,
the vid card has to be the fuckin bottleneck

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Originally Posted by fkdup74

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Originally Posted by TheCanuk

So you guys think this system will run BF2 at highest settings lag free? (system lag, crappy 1mb connection :P)

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never played BF2 :P
but I do believe that an X850XT should handle it fine

all I know is this 6600GT still struggles on feckin C&C Generals,
w/ a 3500+ Venice, 1GB dual channel, low latency Patriot RAM,
the vid card has to be the fuckin bottleneck

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I take it you've tried it with a different graphics card to prove your accusation.

It's surprising how many people don't realise the extra sound quality that has been built in to current games, so they expect the same old low quality audio codecs to provide the same performance. When that doesn't happen they blame the graphics card, and finally realise something else is the cause (or give up in disgust) after the 3rd graphics card doesn't solve their problem.

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Originally Posted by lynx

It's surprising how many people don't realise the extra sound quality that has been built in to current games, so they expect the same old low quality audio codecs to provide the same performance. When that doesn't happen they blame the graphics card, and finally realise something else is the cause (or give up in disgust) after the 3rd graphics card doesn't solve their problem.

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ok......got a proposal for you.....
you send me anything X700 Pro or better and I'll prove it :P

oh btw, yes the 6600GT sucks even with a sound card, which happens to suck as well
Audigy2...pfffft....nVidia's onboard sounds better :sick:

and before yer high horse carries you off too far....
I've tried this POS with and without fastwrites enabled,
with and without overclocking,
with and without other services running,
tried about everything under the sun, profiles, BIOS settings, different drivers, you name it

bottom line IMO, it just doesn't live up to the hype
and it was nicknamed the Doom3 card? it's laughable
I give the 6600GT and Radeon 9200 about the same score :lol:

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Originally Posted by fkdup74

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Originally Posted by lynx

It's surprising how many people don't realise the extra sound quality that has been built in to current games, so they expect the same old low quality audio codecs to provide the same performance. When that doesn't happen they blame the graphics card, and finally realise something else is the cause (or give up in disgust) after the 3rd graphics card doesn't solve their problem.

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ok......got a proposal for you.....
you send me anything X700 Pro or better and I'll prove it :P

oh btw, yes the 6600GT sucks even with a sound card, which happens to suck as well
Audigy2...pfffft....nVidia's onboard sounds better :sick:

and before yer high horse carries you off too far....
I've tried this POS with and without fastwrites enabled,
with and without overclocking,
with and without other services running,
tried about everything under the sun, profiles, BIOS settings, different drivers, you name it

bottom line IMO, it just doesn't live up to the hype
and it was nicknamed the Doom3 card? it's laughable
I give the 6600GT and Radeon 9200 about the same score :lol:

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Thing is, I was under exactly the same impression until I got a separate sound card, then all the lagging problems went away. Still, it's your money, go ahead and spend a fortune on another graphics card which won't solve your problem.