boycotts of Danish goods in middle East!

as some of you may know there is a boycotts of Danish goods in middle east from past few days because of a Danish news paper by making ridicules cartoon of Prophet Mohammad(pbuh), also few countries including sudia Arabia and labia withdraw their ambassadors from there, I want to point a view of mine.
http://www.upi.com/InternationalInte...0-052626-1117r

In the answer to why did this news paper made that cartoon they said it was to show the freedom of speech, I want to know what kind of freedom is that, even if that is stepping over our moral believes. To me it was very stupid comment that they were showing freedom of speech, they could go on political leaders but they had to make fun of religious matters. maybe to them religious matter is noting and they can make fun of Jesus as they regularly do(no offence meant, we believe in him and have huge respect for him, prophet Eesa is mentioned with respect in Quran) any time they want but that doesn’t work here, we don’t tolerate with those kind of things. The news paper site was destroyed by a hacker and was back last days and apologized in a way that "we got it wrong".
Denmark ambassador in Saudi Arabia said 100million damage was made overall middle east in few days cuz of boycotts, and now the foreign minister is waiting for an act by our governments for what is happening, I say how the feck they can blem us for whets happening, we deserve an apologies and they asking us for one.
These boycotts will continue even if Denmark government apologies so it could be a lesson for those who think they can go away with this kind of act.

Did they used to sell alot of bacon in Muslim countries before this all happened then? :blink:

dont know whats that but mostly dairy goods like puck cheese r being sold.

GTFOOH.

They don't boycott over there.

They behead.

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Originally Posted by BawA

as some of you may know there is a boycotts of Danish goods in middle east from past few days because of a Danish news paper by making ridicules cartoon of Prophet Mohammad(pbuh), also few countries including sudia Arabia and labia withdraw their ambassadors from there, I want to point a view of mine.

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Sorry, I know we're not supposed to laugh at people who's first language is not English, but do you mean Libya? :blink:

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GTFOOH.

They don't boycott over there.

They behead.

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your the perfict example of what that person who made that cartoon belived.
if ur realy from zimbabwe u should know better then me what happens in ur own country.

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Originally Posted by BawA

as some of you may know there is a boycotts of Danish goods in middle east from past few days because of a Danish news paper by making ridicules cartoon of Prophet Mohammad(pbuh), also few countries including sudia Arabia and labia withdraw their ambassadors from there, I want to point a view of mine.

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Sorry, I know we're not supposed to laugh at people who's first language is not English, but do you mean Libya? :blink:

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yeh, feckin MSword changed the word when i was checking the spelling http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/images/icons/icon2.gif

It's just that labia withdrawal means something completely different... :naughty:


EDIT: Sorry, let me try and be on-topic:


I sympathize with you if you are offended by cartoons of your religions founder, however this reminds me of the whole Salman Rushdie Fatwa thing, and I am sure there are other examples:

What is it about the Muslim faith that is so scared of criticizm?

I shouldn't single out Islam really, because fundamental Christianity has the same problem I think, especially in the US, but anyway, can't you rise above it and see the funny side?

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GTFOOH.

They don't boycott over there.

They behead.

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your the perfict example of what that person who made that cartoon belived.
if ur realy from zimbabwe u should know better then me what happens in ur own country.

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Oh gawd, I only draw on the numerous occasions where people over your way get offended and call for an execution. :salmon rushdie:

Of course they are boycotting Danish goods. Has anyone issued a fatwah yet?:dry:

you know whats the diffrence between us and west, they dont belive in religious as much as we do, we do take certain thoughts from others about the religious belives offended but u guys dont, if u dont agree with something keep it to your self u dont need to make a book about it and anger a entire muslim world, majority is above one persons beliving.
u guys may dont take a bad word offensive about the bible but we do, what salman rushdie(cursing the quruan) did was crossing the line, if it wasnt wrong entire muslim wouldnt take it offensive just whats now happened in denmark.

Can you explain why religious beliefs have to be treated differently? Why is "freedom of speech" not to be respected but religious beliefs are ?

:pinch: i thought for a second that busyman actually got rodding.

all i can say is good luck with the boycottage :01:

the simpsons always make fun of hinduism but I dont complain about it :blink:

I'll ass that I agree with you bawa, that religion is very important in the middle east. We stopped in dubai on teh way to india a few years ago and I remember seeing a huge mosque inside the airport.

ps. freedom of speech is pretty much the same as freedom of expression, no?

so if a muslim is offended, who is anyone to bitch if he chooses to buy food from a different country? all these guys are doing is expressing themselves in a, get this, peaceful manner :smilie4:

Presumably, all the kids in Arab countries have stopped playing with Lego as well. :mellow:

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GTFOOH.

They don't boycott over there.

They behead.

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your the perfict example of what that person who made that cartoon belived.
if ur realy from zimbabwe u should know better then me what happens in ur own country.

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What, I thought you lived in dubai?

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Originally Posted by BawA

your the perfict example of what that person who made that cartoon belived.
if ur realy from zimbabwe u should know better then me what happens in ur own country.

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What, I thought you lived in dubai?

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hes talking to busy (busy's flag is zimbabwe's)

I'm boycotting American sports events after they mocked my country in the latest episode of Family Guy. So I shan't be watching the Superbasketball Universe World Series Megafinal on 5th Febuary.

:lol: what about teh superbowl?

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I'm boycotting American sports events after they mocked my country in the latest episode of Family Guy. So I shan't be watching the Superbasketball Universe World Series Megafinal on 5th Febuary.

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Bet you watch the Royal Rumble (It's on Usenet already, btw)

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I'm boycotting American sports events after they mocked my country in the latest episode of Family Guy. So I shan't be watching the Superbasketball Universe World Series Megafinal on 5th Febuary.

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Bet you watch the Royal Rumble (It's on Usenet already, btw)

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but he's obviously not paying for it :smilie4:

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Originally Posted by BawA

you know whats the diffrence between us and west, they dont belive in religious as much as we do, we do take certain thoughts from others about the religious belives offended but u guys dont, if u dont agree with something keep it to your self u dont need to make a book about it and anger a entire muslim world, majority is above one persons beliving.
u guys may dont take a bad word offensive about the bible but we do, what salman rushdie(cursing the quruan) did was crossing the line, if it wasnt wrong entire muslim wouldnt take it offensive just whats now happened in denmark.

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So Rushdie mustdie 'cause he called Mohammed a doodyhead.

It makes sense now.

And here I'm thinking I should defend myself and family during a break-in and you just get insulted and wanna break out the AKs.

Silly me.

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Originally Posted by BawA

you know whats the diffrence between us and west, they dont belive in religious as much as we do, we do take certain thoughts from others about the religious belives offended but u guys dont, if u dont agree with something keep it to your self u dont need to make a book about it and anger a entire muslim world, majority is above one persons beliving.
u guys may dont take a bad word offensive about the bible but we do, what salman rushdie(cursing the quruan) did was crossing the line, if it wasnt wrong entire muslim wouldnt take it offensive just whats now happened in denmark.

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So Rushdie mustdie 'cause he called Mohammed a doodyhead.

It makes sense now.

And here I'm thinking I should defend myself and family during a break-in and you just get insulted and wanna break out the AKs.

Silly me.

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You're not comparing like for like.

As Bawa says, devout muslims think differently about religion. Allah is a part of their family, the most revered part of their life. Prayer is offered five times a day and religion is never out of their thoughts.

I think this is a clumsy analogy but if some guy wrote a bestseller that called my Mam a whore, I'd probably want to beat the crap out of him, maybe not kill him, but certainly ensure that I was seen to be standing up for my Mam's honour such that other people wouldn't be tempted into writing a similar book.

I don't condone the fatwah, but I can certainly understand the motives behind it.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

So Rushdie mustdie 'cause he called Mohammed a doodyhead.

It makes sense now.

And here I'm thinking I should defend myself and family during a break-in and you just get insulted and wanna break out the AKs.

Silly me.

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You're not comparing like for like.

As Bawa says, devout muslims think differently about religion. Allah is a part of their family, the most revered part of their life. Prayer is offered five times a day and religion is never out of their thoughts.

I think this is a clumsy analogy but if some guy wrote a bestseller that called my Mam a whore, I'd probably want to beat the crap out of him, maybe not kill him, but certainly ensure that I was seen to be standing up for my Mam's honour such that other people wouldn't be tempted into writing a similar book.

I don't condone the fatwah, but I can certainly understand the motives behind it.

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The fatwah is what I'm talking about.:ermm: I know the motives.

Then what's with the glib comments.

'You get insulted and wanna break out the AK47s'.

It's hardly the same thing.

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Then what's with the glib comments.

'You get insulted and wanna break out the AK47s'.

It's hardly the same thing.

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I view calling for the execution of another for an insult as going "too far".

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Then what's with the glib comments.

'You get insulted and wanna break out the AK47s'.

It's hardly the same thing.

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I view calling for the execution of another for an insult as going "too far".

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Me too.

However, to insult a deity, who to millions of people is as real as our parents are to us, and who these same millions of people speak to with their intimate desires and dreams five times a day, is hardly the same as calling someone a 'doodyhead'.

I don't know why anyone would even make such a correlation.

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Originally Posted by Cheese

I'm boycotting American sports events after they mocked my country in the latest episode of Family Guy. So I shan't be watching the Superbasketball Universe World Series Megafinal on 5th Febuary.

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Bet you watch the Royal Rumble (It's on Usenet already, btw)

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Cheers, I will download it and watch it. But I shall only cheer for the Canadians and Mexicans.

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I view calling for the execution of another for an insult as going "too far".

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Me too.

However, to insult a deity, who to millions of people is as real as our parents are to us, and who these same millions of people speak to with their intimate desires and dreams five times a day, is hardly the same as calling someone a 'doodyhead'.

I don't know why anyone would even make such a correlation.

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I was trying not to be crass, for once.

I didn't know your whole focus was 'cause I said "doodyhead". :dabs:

The latest is an Iraqi militant organization calling for all muslims to attack Danish and Norwegian targets (A christian magazine reprinted the pictures over here shortly after their original release).

While I agree with freedom of speech, and there was certainly nothing illegal about the pictures per se, I don't believe it to be the morally right thing to do.

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Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS

The latest is an Iraqi militant organization calling for all muslims to attack Danish and Norwegian targets (A christian magazine reprinted the pictures over here shortly after their original release).

While I agree with freedom of speech, and there was certainly nothing illegal about the pictures per se, I don't believe it to be the morally right thing to do.

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I must agree. And we must not forget, the terrorist, who killed the dutch director (theo van Gogh) for making a film about islamic women being abused. wasn't taht freedom of speech/thought on van gogh's part?

@ cheese - candia pwns mexicans

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Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS

While I agree with freedom of speech, and there was certainly nothing illegal about the pictures per se, I don't believe it to be the morally right thing to do.

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Surely freedom of speech is an absolute, isn't that the point.

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Me too.

However, to insult a deity, who to millions of people is as real as our parents are to us, and who these same millions of people speak to with their intimate desires and dreams five times a day, is hardly the same as calling someone a 'doodyhead'.

I don't know why anyone would even make such a correlation.

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I was trying not to be crass, for once.

I didn't know your whole focus was 'cause I said "doodyhead". :dabs:

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It wasn't.

I mentioned it once, right at the end of the conversation.

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Originally Posted by BawA

as some of you may know there is a boycotts of Danish goods in middle east from past few days because of a Danish news paper by making ridicules cartoon of Prophet Mohammad(pbuh), also few countries including sudia Arabia and labia withdraw their ambassadors from there, I want to point a view of mine.
http://www.upi.com/InternationalInte...0-052626-1117r

In the answer to why did this news paper made that cartoon they said it was to show the freedom of speech, I want to know what kind of freedom is that, even if that is stepping over our moral believes. To me it was very stupid comment that they were showing freedom of speech, they could go on political leaders but they had to make fun of religious matters. maybe to them religious matter is noting and they can make fun of Jesus as they regularly do(no offence meant, we believe in him and have huge respect for him, prophet Eesa is mentioned with respect in Quran) any time they want but that doesn’t work here, we don’t tolerate with those kind of things. The news paper site was destroyed by a hacker and was back last days and apologized in a way that "we got it wrong".
Denmark ambassador in Saudi Arabia said 100million damage was made overall middle east in few days cuz of boycotts, and now the foreign minister is waiting for an act by our governments for what is happening, I say how the feck they can blem us for whets happening, we deserve an apologies and they asking us for one.
These boycotts will continue even if Denmark government apologies so it could be a lesson for those who think they can go away with this kind of act.

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Over here in the U.S. , there is a cartoon show called South Park. It made fun of Jesus and God , and there really wasnt an uproar, or in other words, it was never banned by the government or anyone. I'm not condoning the act the of Danish the newspaper.

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Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS

While I agree with freedom of speech, and there was certainly nothing illegal about the pictures per se, I don't believe it to be the morally right thing to do.

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Surely freedom of speech is an absolute, isn't that the point.

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You can still question the motive/necessity to print those pictures, and if you view the incident as slandering can you justify it as morally right?

What is legal isn't necessarily right as I see it.

(Off to bed)

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Over here in the U.S. , there is a cartoon show called South Park.

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:lol:

The guy lives in Dubai, rather than a cave, and has 3k posts on a filesharing forum, I'm pretty sure he's aware of South park.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I was trying not to be crass, for once.

I didn't know your whole focus was 'cause I said "doodyhead". :dabs:

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It wasn't.

I mentioned it once, right at the end of the conversation.

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Then what was it?

The motives of the Muslims were known quite obviously....so wtf?

Read my posts again.

If you can't do that, I can't be arsed.

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Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS

While I agree with freedom of speech, and there was certainly nothing illegal about the pictures per se, I don't believe it to be the morally right thing to do.

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Surely freedom of speech is an absolute, isn't that the point.

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ja, so it's fair to act offended.

by that i suppose it's also fair for us to call this whole thing silly :dabs:

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Read my posts again.

If you can't do that, I can't be arsed.

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"Busy you don't understand. You don't get it."

"Ok what is it then?"

"Oh never mind. :lol: The invalid doesn't doesn't get it."

Back and forth over the most mundane.:ermm: