Do You Know Someone With An E85 Vehicle?

I'm curious 'cause I heard GM has many that use that type of fuel now.

I've been thinking about getting an SUV but was waiting for one with decent fuel economy and I'm not sure E85 addresses that.

I know Willie Nelson has vehicles that run on ethanol but I thought the fuel economy was worse.

I want the '07 Chevy Suburban (wanted the Cadillac Escalade but it costs too much)
http://a137.g.akamai.net/n/137/3538/...le_mfr_430.jpg

This runs about $55,000 but allows me to do everything I need. My job gets me discounted prices on GM vehicles but I don't know how much it'll be.

I'm curious as to how much a Suburban that runs on E85 fuel would be and what the advantages are.

On the surface, if E85 doesn't give me better fuel economy and/or the fuel cost more, than it doesn't really help me except to say I won't be using foreign oil.

It has to be more to it than that.

I do love the fact that we could see a future where we grow our fuel (corn and stuff).

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Originally Posted by Busyman

This runs about $55,000 but allows me to do everything I need.

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Explain the need for the huge gas guzzler.


I would like to point out that this is a ridiculous vehicle choice when your concern is fuel economy.

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Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

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Originally Posted by Busyman

This runs about $55,000 but allows me to do everything I need.

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Explain the need for the huge gas guzzler.


I would like to point out that this is a ridiculous vehicle choice when your concern is fuel economy.

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1. Hauling lumber and other materials for my home.

2. Hauling lots of audio gear.

3. Transporting a number of kids and their parents.

4. 4x4 for rare times in the snow.

The concern is fuel economy for an SUV. Do you know the fuel economy of a '07 Chevy Suburban using all gasoline and all ethanol?

I think the Tahoe gets something like 22 mpg.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I think the Tahoe gets something like 22 mpg.

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Are they US gallons, or real ones?

are you planning to go off road or are you a poof?

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1. Hauling lumber and other materials for my home.

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A $55,000 US luxury SUV to haul lumber?

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2. Hauling lots of audio gear.

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Moving a symphonic orchestra?

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3. Transporting a number of kids and their parents.

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How many and don't they have vehicles?

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4. 4x4 for rare times in the snow.

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I live in Canada and I don't need 4X4 to drive in snow often.





I any case, it's just ridiculous to expect fuel economy from a Suburban.

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Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

A $55,000 US luxury SUV to haul lumber?
Didn't I just say it? RIF.
Name another SUV that size.

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2. Hauling lots of audio gear.

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Moving a symphonic orchestra?
No. Mixers, keyboards, computers...shit like that.

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3. Transporting a number of kids and their parents.

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How many and don't they have vehicles?
Alot and sure they do, dad.

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4. 4x4 for rare times in the snow.

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I live in Canada and I don't need 4X4 to drive in snow often.
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I any case, it's just ridiculous to expect fuel economy from a Suburban.

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No shit...when compared to a car. :1eye: dUh! :1eye:

There's also crap like the Ford Excursion that got 10 mpg which I deem ridiculous.

I find that people harp on SUV for their gas mileage yet say nothing about sports cars which serve way less purpose.

Thanks for answers on E85.:wacko:

small man = big car

always happens:no:

It really makes no difference.

Surely you don't expect us to believe that you can afford a $55k penis substitute when you can't afford full fare for your missus at the cinema nor a microwave for your Mam.

VB is helping you indulge in your fantasy, you should be grateful - the rest of read half way thro' your initial post, rolled our eyes and decided that in future, we'd get our fairytales from Grimm.

£31 000 for a car that size? It either sucks bawls, or cars are dirt cheap in merkinland:dabs:

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Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

A $55,000 US luxury SUV to haul lumber?

Moving a symphonic orchestra?

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3. Transporting a number of kids and their parents.

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How many and don't they have vehicles?

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4. 4x4 for rare times in the snow.

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I live in Canada and I don't need 4X4 to drive in snow often.





I any case, it's just ridiculous to expect fuel economy from a Suburban.

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No shit...when compared to a car. :1eye: dUh! :1eye:

There's also crap like the Ford Excursion that got 10 mpg which I deem ridiculous.

I find that people harp on SUV for their gas mileage yet say nothing about sports cars.

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i know you're not capable of rodding so... people do bitch about sports cars. people with sports cars do drive them fast. they're not a hazard in built up areas.

sports cars have lots of redeeming features. buying a 4x4 that will never go off road is gay :dabs:

http://www.stopurban4x4s.org.uk/excuses.htm


Well, here's one perspective....

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http://www.stopurban4x4s.org.uk/excuses.htm


Well, here's one perspective....

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Big, tall 4x4s have far bigger rear blind spots than normal cars, making it impossible to see a child for more than 15 feet behind them, and much further for short drivers.

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Big, tall 4x4s have far bigger rear blind spots than normal cars, making it impossible to see a child for more than 15 feet behind them, and much further for short drivers.

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You'll just be able to make out the quiff of his Even Steven over the steering wheel :no:

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Originally Posted by manker

It really makes no difference.

Surely you don't expect us to believe that you can afford a $55k penis substitute when you can't afford full fare for your missus at the cinema nor a microwave for your Mam.

VB is helping you indulge in your fantasy, you should be grateful - the rest of read half way thro' your initial post, rolled our eyes and decided that in future, we'd get our fairytales from Grimm.

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What's the fairytale?

I could afford it years ago so I couldn't give a shit* whether you believed the first post or not.:huh:







* Whether this is the correct version or whether I should or shouldn't give 2 or even 3 shits, I could or couldn't give a shit. If one struggles with this wording then simply get some pussy to get your mind off grammar. However, If you think that there is something, possibly, in the world that you do give 9 shits about, feel free to use whatever the fuck comes to mind since, if you could or couldn't give a shit, it doesn't fucking matter....now does it? ANSWER ME MOTHERFUCKER!!!. Thanks, and fuck yo mama.

A night of roddage to celebrate the new smiley would not be right nor proper without Busyman completing the menage de twat.

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9191/rod25qn.gif

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A night of roddage to celebrate the new smiley would not be right nor proper without Busyman completing the menage de twat.

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9191/rod25qn.gif

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As if I never knew.:mellow:

Good entertainment, though.

Nice smiley.:happy:

:dabs:

There's a huge difference between wanting something and needing something.

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10. People won't think you are an 'idiot'

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Too late. :P

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There's a huge difference between wanting something and needing something.

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How much :unsure:

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There's a huge difference between wanting something and needing something.

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Of course.

I don't need most of luxuries I have now.

Right now, I load any grimy or somewhat bulky items in my Camry. Often times I have to call my uncle and borrow his pick-up truck and he lives across town.

I could keep doing that.

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There's a huge difference between wanting something and needing something.

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How much :unsure:

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Exactly as much as the difference between a sensible vehicle and a Suburban.

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How much :unsure:

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Exactly as much as the difference between a sensible vehicle and a Suburban.

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bout 3 inches :smilie4:

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There's a huge difference between wanting something and needing something.

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Of course.

I don't need most of luxuries I have now.

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... This runs about $55,000 but allows me to do everything I need...

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Of course.

I don't need most of luxuries I have now.

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... This runs about $55,000 but allows me to do everything I need...

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RIF.

It does everything I need.

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How much :unsure:

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Exactly as much as the difference between a sensible vehicle and a Suburban.

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Oh you must have a hybrid vehicle then.

Good to know.

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... This runs about $55,000 but allows me to do everything I need...

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RIF.

I does everything I need.

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so does a stryker. what's your point?

It may do stuff you want.

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Exactly as much as the difference between a sensible vehicle and a Suburban.

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Oh you must have a hybrid vehicle then.

Good to know.

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I said "sensible".

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It may do stuff you want.

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RIF.

You fucked up. Just take it, man.

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Oh you must have a hybrid vehicle then.

Good to know.

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I said "sensible".

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Oh ok. What has VB deemed sensible in all his rigidity?

I guess it wasn't sensible for my uncle to own a pick-up with 4x4?

I guess it's not sensible to own a car with AWD?

I guess it's not sensible to buy an SUV even if it has decent fuel economy?

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It may do stuff you want.

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RIF.

You fucked up. Just take it, man.

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You don't seem to have a clue what you're talking about.

As usual. :dry:

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RIF.

You fucked up. Just take it, man.

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You don't seem to have a clue what you're talking about.

As usual. :dry:

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Yet post #24 makes no sense as you laid it out. I gotcha.

I may need to haul lumber and other building materials (or have it hauled) yet may not need a tractor trailer to haul it.

Does your intelligence level wane as it gets later or does it consistently remain scant all day?

You aren't even rodding, ffs, although I treat it all the same.

Keep posting. You're burying yourself.

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Keep posting. You're burying yourself.

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Nothing more to post.

You may want to point out post #3...if that helps.

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You don't seem to have a clue what you're talking about.

As usual. :dry:

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Yet post #24 makes no sense as you laid it out. I gotcha.

I may need to haul lumber and other building materials (or have it hauled) yet may not need a tractor trailer to haul it.

Does your intelligence level wane as it gets later or does it consistently remain scant all day?

You aren't even rodding, ffs, although I treat it all the same.

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a man car and a trailer would be cheaper :smilie4:

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php...men+drive+SUVs

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4. 4x4 for rare times in the snow.

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It's funnny when there's the really bad snow falls and you see people with 4x4 SUVs driving with 2 wheel drive (you can tell :P).:lol:

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4. 4x4 for rare times in the snow.

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It's funnny when there's the really bad snow falls and you see people with 4x4 SUVs driving with 2 wheel drive (you can tell :P).:lol:

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One thing I can't stand is when someone gets a large SUV and gets it without 4WD.

A friend of mine at work bought a Ford Expedition....2WD.

The reason: He didn't like how high the truck sat.:dry:

When we had a big snowfall his ass got stuck numerous times on his way home.

Fucking embarassing.:lol: :lol: :lol:

On a side note:

I'm finally missing the snow, which is why I picked this time to be off for teh surgered knee.

It snowed a couple days ago....a lot.

Tomorrow it's supposed to be 60 degrees. :huh:

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4. 4x4 for rare times in the snow.

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It's funnny when there's the really bad snow falls and you see people with 4x4 SUVs driving with 2 wheel drive (you can tell :P).:lol:

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What is considered a really bad snowfall? I drive all the time in the snow in 2wd despite the fact that my truck has 4x4. why waste the gas when I don't need all four wheels driving (actually two wheels due to open differentials, but that is another story)? I have rairly seen a condition in my 18 years here in montana that would require a good driver to engage 4x4 on pavement. The times I have seen usually involve leaving the paved surface involentarly (no, having 4x4 engaged would not have helped), and 4x4 might get you on the road without a towtruck. however, if all four tires (or even one front tire and one back tire due to open diffs) are on the same surface that 2wd couldn't get you off of, 4x4 won't help. Learn to drive in snow before you decide that you need a 4x4 crutch. Remember, usually, the 2wd version of a truck will be lighter, get better gas milage, have better acceleration, better stopping, better handling, and be cheaper to work on. if your tires don't touch dirt, go with the 2wd and throw some sand in the back in the winter (same for a 4x4).