what are the motherboards called w/ two processors? I don't want a server motherboard.
Any links from newegg thanks.
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what are the motherboards called w/ two processors? I don't want a server motherboard.
Any links from newegg thanks.
I want to get something that can handle a rendering 3d images and then surf the web without any lag, so im looking for a dual processor, would dual cores be better? I'm planning to install windows xp on it. Any ideas what to use?
there called dual socket motherboards
dual socket are server motherboards arent they? would windows xp work on them? wouldnt i need like a special case for them too? would i be able to run it as a normal computer?
some are set up as servers. the ones that you are looking for are called workstation motherboards. They are generally setup for performance, and many offer dual graphics cards. A friend of mine has dual operon 246s on one for gaming- here is a link
http://www.bitterrootlan.com/THE_CORE.html
If you want AMD, look for socket 940- they fit opteron 2xx series and above, and I am yet to see one with less than two sockets (up to four)
As for Intel, you are looking at Xeon Processors on socket 603 or 604
I know that windows will support two processors- THE_CORE runs XP with it's two proccessors, I have seen spec sheets for a computer with the same motherboard, running 2 opt 275 (dual core) proccessors, for a total of four, and as far as I know, it was running xp. be warned though, that computer cost $12000. also, a dual socket motherboard can run with only one CPU, so you can get a running computer, and eventually upgrade if that works better.
As far as motherboards, I know the one THE_CORE is running is very good- Tyan K8WE, but for $600, it should be. most of these boards also require registered ram, which is more expensive. there is one out there that does not, not sure how it gets away with it. on the downside, that particular board does not have a single pci port. I don't know much about Xeon motherboards.
Dual cores will git er done. What kinda stuff do you model?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul814
was just looking at an ad for a tyan board that is a quad- socket 940 with dual PCI-E ports, but I don't have enough for a $1000 board, four $1200 processors, 32gb of registered ram, and two graphics cards, not to mention harddrives, powersupplys, cases and the like. sure would be nice though.
Dual cores will get most things done, infact for most things they could replace dual socket workstations. the biggest difference between a single dual core CPU and two single core CPUs is the ram. a dual socket motherboard is going to support twice the ram. if four gigs is not enough ram, move up to dual socket. the other advantage is that you could have two dual core CPUs, so it all depends on the power that you require. you have to be in need of a lot of computing power to need a dually. that dually that I posted a link for earlier will server video games at the same time, while playing one of the games at highest resolution settings, and you will notice the smallest amount of lag.
Well I'm building the computer for someone, budget was 1k+. I picked so parts out at work, I'll pick the other stuff later, gotta do some homework first. The computer is meant for a video editing, CAD, and 3d render. It isn't meant for gaming.
So far here are the parts how does it look?
Probably the other stuff I'm going to get for it
Case is going to be a Cool Master
Neopower PSU
Video Card ATI All In Wonder
Soundcard = Built in
HD 250 Seagate Sata
DVDRW/CDRW
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Don't buy an SLI board unless you know for sure that you will use an SLI setup (2 bridged graphics cards).
RAM looks to be a good choice.
AMD Dual core is also a good choice instead of a dual socket mobo.
yea, seems easier to set up anyways, well i have to ask the person if he wants to use SLI, he wants it upgradeable thats why, he wants to have 2 monitors which he will buy seperately so I don't know if he will want the SLI in the long run
he doesnt play to change it for a while so its better to be on the safe side.
Is there any geforce that can do what an all in wonder can do?
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you don't need sli for dual graphics, in fact that won't run at all. most high end grapics cards have two ports on them for two monitors. my x800 is running two monitors. you take a performance hit with two monitors on one gpu, you can run two gpus, one for each monitor so that each is running for just one monitor, but you don't link them as in SLI or Crossfire. all that is required for two graphics cards is two pci express ports. Of course all SLI or Crossfire boards have this, but there are boards that are not SLI or Crossfire with dual PCI-E ports. If you are going with an ATI card, I would get a Crossfire Board. SLI is for NVidia. I know that you said ATI all in wonder, but what level? X800, X850, X18OO ect? Edit: Wrote this before the parts list was posted. X800 is a good GPU, I am pretty happy with it.
lol i like DFI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136165
but im not messing with it with the COOLMASTER cases lol. Last computer I made with it the 120m fan got in the way w/ the audio thing and I spent 1 hr burning a notch in the fan to make it fit.
Which one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131584
The DFI board gives you a second Lan port, 2 extra rear panel USB ports, 3 extra SATA ports and a much better audio setup. All for under $60. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul814
To be fair, if you need just one of the extras provided by the DFI board it is probably better to get that board rather than add things to the ASUS board, but if you don't need any of those extra features you are just wasting money, imo. Also note the the DFI board only supports SATA I while the ASUS board supports SATA II.
Watch out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul814
You need to find out exactly what software your customer will be running and pick the vid cards from their approved list.
I just built a pair of PCs for these guys specifically to do CAD design and run their production machines.
We ended up using these Quadro cards based on their software maker's recommendations.
Apparently they are quite pleased with the performance as they are ordering a third machine for the graphics designer.
Ask your friend to specify the software he'll be using and build around that.
Since Cad was mentioned as one of his uses I don't think your choice of Video card is enough. Most Cad programs are video card intensive and require the Quadro type cards, try googling "cad video cards" and see what comes up. Also Cad cards have not gone PCI-express because they are mostly for buisness and gaming is not an issue so becareful what you choose here as the cards will be AGP Pro most likely.
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Appzalien
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Originally Posted by Newegg
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/opteron.html :dabs:
Been wanting one of these for a while.
Not sure where to buy them, tho'.
Well its his own home computer he wants to do like video editting and stuff and run a 3d home program thing. And probably software like microstation and autocad
I work in a company where the designers use microstation alot and the computers are all Dells so I don't see how great they can be. I can't find the computers they use on the site. But their P4 - 3.0ghz, 1gb ram. Don't know about the video card. I know its dual monitors.
I wonder if they'll make one of those quad socket mofos for the AM2....Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
AM2 will (should) introduce the quad core Opterons...
quad core x quad socket.....ooooohhh yeah
hehe, wonder how much power a beast like that would need?
we just got a new Dell :sick: server at work, dual Xeon :sick: :sick: ,
and it came with a 940W PSU I think
it's a f*ckin monster
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depends on the CAD software, and what you're doing with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Appzalien
meh....our draftsmen/engineers (running AutoCAD 2006).....
use onboard video...32MB shared memroy FTW! :01:
on like, 600-800MHz PIIIs and Celerons FTW! :01: :glag:
It all depends on what you are doing. at the cad lab we use PRO-E which is pretty resource hungry, and we were running it on old dells with 256 ram and onboard video. (they were replaced the semester after I had my cad class and are all new now) of course we weren't modeling very complex parts, and if they got complex at all you had to suppress elements so they weren't taking up ram. it all depends on what you are doing with the programs. if you are modeling an entire car in PRO-E you are going to want a couple gigs of ram and a damn good graphics card.
I've been wondering about that as well, it would be pretty cool (probably not literally), altho' waaaay out of my price-range :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by fkdup74
Also, I was pretty sure they announced a board with dual sockets and SLi, but I didn't see it now, at first.
But it's the Thunder K8WE (S2895) :wub:
I'd not mind having that board, if I could ever get the money for that, two of the best NVidia cards I could find, and two of the best opterons.
One day tho', one day I will get a board that's that buffed up compared to the other mobos on the market.
I hope.
All the Quadros.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
Imagine two 4500s running in SLi.
Smooth CAD-work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
A very Nice motherboard, but if you are going to dream, why not dream for one of Tyan's quad socket mobos?
Why bother about that, when Tyan has mobos with eight sockets as well?
There's only so much processing power I need.
The K8WE-version I was talking about would be enough for pretty much anything I can think of.
this just on a quad socket with dual cores :pinch:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/fkdup74/ugh.png
plus $8000 for 16 2gig sticks of 184pin registered ram
plus harddrives (15000 rpm raid array?)
plus two top level graphics cards...
ya, I can't afford it.
Well, we know what we can get if we win a lot of money.
yea, I have one of those.....I mainly use it to play minesweeper :ph34r:
Drugs and hookers?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
hmm, *plays lotto...