Re: IDE Ribbon Cable help
You can only connect 2 drives to IDE cable (Master and slave).
Most motherboards have 2 IDE connectors so 2 cables can support up to 4 devices. The problem is that optical drives also use them.
If you motherboard has SATA then you can use that.
You can also use a USB2 external housing.
Lastly, you can add a PCI card that can add more expansion capabilities to your system.
What motherboard do you have?
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Most MB have 2 IDE connectors (each connector can handle 2 devices each for a total of 4 devices). Your are NOT going to find an IDE cable with 3 or 4 connections because there is no such animal.
Other solutions:
SATA Drives
USB external drives (you can daisy chain these up to 128 times)
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Re: IDE Ribbon Cable help
Each IDE connector can have 2 devices. A master and a slave. Most mobo's have 2 ide channels, so you can have 4 hard-drives, so long as you don't want any optical drives.
You might want to consider a SATA drive, or connecting an external drive via USB.
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Thanks for the info
I've got a KM2MCOMBO-L ~ a bit outdated now :(
I like the sound of the PCI card for expansion, did not know they did one.
ebuyer have a caddy @ £3.99, looks okIDE Caddy With 2 Fan
I'm sure they would work on the PCI expansion
I'm a bit unsure about USB2 for an external drive, compared to the PCI card idea, Will see if I can get some details on transfer speeds first.
SATA Drives: don't know if that would work on my PC, unknown if I could convert, I've seen the New Maxline Pro 500GB with 16 MB Cache, good reports.
Much appreciated
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External Serial ATA 1+1 Port PCI Adapter - ebuyer @ £12.04 PCI Adapter
This would be a great upgrade for my PC at a low cost,
and would work well I hope with the Ebuyer Caddy + sata drive for each bay in the PC, and would be handy so I can hot swap if need.
Ask a question, get an answer, problem sorted, Nice one!
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Originally Posted by CELEBS_ARE_US
Ask a question, get an answer, problem sorted, Nice one!
It's just because you're not French.
We seem to terrify them...
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Anything terrifies the French lol...
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Hey Duff...how's the RAID array working out?
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Thanks for the info :)
the only price I can find at the mo is £34.61 for this card, not as cheap.
looks good, can run 4 drives on it, but the data rates only 133mb/s
would I be better using the SATA Port card with data rates @ 1.5Gb/s
and the Serial ATA card comes ready with the cable as well.
I'm sure this is the one to go for, well hope! :lol:
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Originally Posted by CELEBS
Thanks for the info :)
the only price I can find at the mo is £34.61 for this card, not as cheap.
looks good, can run 4 drives on it, but the data rates only 133mb/s
would I be better using the SATA Port card with data rates @ 1.5Gb/s
and the Serial ATA card comes ready with the cable as well.
I'm sure this is the one to go for, well hope! :lol:
I would go for that card and a sata drive.
Then you can use the drive if you build/upgrade your computer later on.
Make sure you've got enough connectors for power in your computer, and for a sata drive you will need a molex to sata cable.
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Thanks Rossco, The one thing I did not think about... "power connectors"
just had a look, yes i have two available.
found a molex to sata on ebuyer @ £4.11 each:ITEM:
Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB @ £65.77 each
x2 HDD £131.54/x2 molex to sata £8.22/1x Serial Ata card £12.04
= £151.80 ~ 304.726 CAD
sounds quite good to me, will be a good setup at a good price!
Thank you
EDIT: Sata power converter on ebay, buy it now price £1.99 + £1.00 p&p
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Hey Duff...how's the RAID array working out?
eh good, i get problems if I don't defrag once in a while, but other than that i get 12 day uptimes no prob, sometimes it does that clicking but it doesn't crash it anymore, so its all cool.
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Originally Posted by CELEBS
Thanks for the info :)
the only price I can find at the mo is £34.61 for this card, not as cheap.
looks good, can run 4 drives on it, but the data rates only 133mb/s
would I be better using the SATA Port card with data rates @ 1.5Gb/s
and the Serial ATA card comes ready with the cable as well.
I'm sure this is the one to go for, well hope! :lol:
IDE maximum data rate is 133MB/s
SATA maximum data rate is 150MB/s
But the mechanical limitation of most drives is still less than 100MB/s.
You won't notice any speed difference.
You can still go with SATA if you want. Look for the best price for the card and drive combination.
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Originally Posted by clocker
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Originally Posted by CELEBS_ARE_US
Ask a question, get an answer, problem sorted, Nice one!
It's just because you're not French.
We seem to terrify them...
Or the French Canadiens ,who just like to be different ! :) Ok OK could n't help it !:D
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Try the new WD drives:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=94403
16MB cache for only 60p extra per drive but save money on the sata power converters - WD drives still accept molex power connectors.
If you are getting 2 drives don't forget that you need a data cable for each drive with sata. The controller card only comes with one cable so you need to buy one for the second drive.
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=58191
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Thanks Lynx
All I need now is buy one get one free :lol:
Thats a good deal, 250GB - 16MB Cache at that price.
love the look of the SATA cables compared to the old IDE, that would make a well tidy PC.
Thanks all for ya help on this one :)
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If you have chosen sata drives thats ok, you can always switch them to a sata capable motherboard later but you need to know that a sata pci card is limited by the speed of the pci bus, you will not get 150mb/s speeds until you have a sata motherboard.
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Originally Posted by Appzalien
If you have chosen sata drives thats ok, you can always switch them to a sata capable motherboard later but you need to know that a sata pci card is limited by the speed of the pci bus, you will not get 150mb/s speeds until you have a sata motherboard.
Standard pci bus throughput is 33MHz x 32 bits width = 1.056Gb/s. While this does not match the 1.5Gb/s (not 150mb/s) of the Sata I interface, it still outstrips the media speed of about 500mb/s for a high end drive. Without multichannel RAID the limiting factor is still the media transfer speed and will continue to be for some time.
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Originally Posted by Appzalien
you will not get 150mb/s speeds until you have a sata motherboard.
While this does not match the 1.5Gb/s (not 150mb/s) of the Sata I interface....
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What is the long-term road map for SATA?
SATA defines a roadmap starting at 1.5 gigabits per second (equivalent to a data rate of 150MB/s) and migrating to 3.0 gigabits per second (300 MB/s), then to even higher data rates. This roadmap supports up to 10 years of storage evolution, based on historical trends.
http://www.sata-io.org/faqs.asp
Perhaps 'alien had his casing wrong....
but then I've seen multiple instances of case-raping in this thread. :frusty: