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Doesn't newsgroups contradict the claim "Never pay for File Sharing!"? I mean, people are paying money for the "quality" servers aren't they? Maybe the saying should be changed to "Occasionally pay for File Sharing!"?. I just put this out as something to think about.
It is true BUT that message is meant for n00bs to filesharing who may see the ads for kazaa gold and other things then go out and buy it which is NOT worth any money.
Many people don't pay for newsgroups, but people do pay for convenience. A quality pay server removes the need to multiplex several free news servers together into a virtual quality server.
I have been using newsgroups for over a month and it is well worth the paying the small monthly fee. I can find some things on there I can't find on bt at all. And there is always a good speed. I have never been under a steady 730 kbs, sometimes I hit over 800. But I do go between the both. I use bt sometimes for items that I don't see on any newsgroup.
I think it means "Never pay for P2P".
Newsgroups access is probably one of the best investments a computer user would make. Most software is then free.
using newsgroups is hardly sharing. its leeching.Quote:
Never pay for File Sharing!
and the right package at the right price is well worth the money!
Yeah your not sharing files....therefore you pay innit!!!
Ahh yes, I see your point. Quite true :)Quote:
using newsgroups is hardly sharing. its leeching.
and the right package at the right price is well worth the money!
Yea and the warning has a good purpose, especially to noobs as rossco said,
If you get speeds like that cerote, I might even sign up as those speeds are incredible! :w00t:Quote:
It is true BUT that message is meant for n00bs to filesharing who may see the ads for kazaa gold and other things then go out and buy it which is NOT worth any money.
Thanks
Well put it this way, for a one year subcription with NewsHosting and Newsleecher for a year comes to around £100, that's about 27p a day. Hardly breaking the bank is it.
Compared to the money you save by not having to buy movies, cds, rent movies, buy software, games, etc...definately. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimi...
Here is what I pay for to download warez.
Food, electricity, appartment, ADSL, bus to work, Giganews account, computer equipment, toothpaste, coffee (oh yeah you need it to stay online), soap, clothing (for work), light bulbs (or else the eyes goes to hell) etc etc etc.
My life is just about internet and downloading... smart guys says I got no life of course, but I'm happy!
i pay for the speed and retention from newshosting, i think $14.95 (USD) a month is nothing to what you get (unlimited bandwidth, uncapped speed)
you pay for bandwidth service not the actual content itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by kazaaman
so the claim "never pay for file sharing" still stands
my isp gives me 5 gig a month of free downloads from giganews. so its free for me
If you pay for a full year, you get a discount and it averages out to about $12 (USD) per month. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by linuXshock
i get speeds of about 1.3 mega BYTE per sec very quick as i have a 10mbit connection. The only thing is that bt quite often has stuff i cant find on usenet so i use that for most of my dl, but if i want something quick and its big i use usenet, much faster, although i do get 700kBps usint good torrent ratio site as well
Is it Scenereleases that usenet offers?
@Kotan
Its everything that usenet offers
i found usenetserver to be better than newshosting i pay $39 every 3 months for unlimted cap :)
just as much scene releases as there are on torrent sites, only without the crappy ratio stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kotan
With bittorrent my cap is over 900kbs. for me paying for somthing even a little goes agianst what Piracy really is. anyway I bet I can find anything on bittorrent sites that you can find on news groups!
Umm, did you take a wrong turn somewhere? This is the Newsgroups sub forum. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gish
You have got to be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gish
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry dude, but i played the BT game and have had accounts at numerous private trackers including but not limited to Demonoid, BitSoup, Bitme, TL, FL, Oink, Pisexy, F*N, BitMeTv, HDBits, and the content on Usenet continues to blow my freakin mind.
I will not go into specifics, but I just downloaded (from usenet) the first 8 seasons of my favorite show in DVD-R format, before this ofcourse i scoured the BT network and came up with 1 season.
This is just but one of numerous examples of the insane content of news groups.
Look into a 3-day free trial at giganews, just to see what you are missing.
Maybe in a parallell universe :PQuote:
Originally Posted by gish
24 bucks a month for unlimited DL!
Why pay even two bucks a month:D
For example: how long would it take to DL a 4 and a half gig movie on usenet. it takes me two to three hours on bittorrent
Usenet is only limited by your max speed, unlike BT.Quote:
Originally Posted by gish
With a 10Mbit down a 4.5GB dvd would take 1 hour.
Yeh but how long to seed back ? Theres no need to upload on usenet .Quote:
Originally Posted by gish
plus you do not need a fair number of seeds to hit your maximum download rate .
Just one seed is all it needs on usenet...Quote:
Originally Posted by 0ctane
never payed for file sharing.
donations are very different from monthly payments.
only donated once for TL, and i really think they deserved every cent of it.
i was quoting bit torrent that you would need many seeds to max connection not everyone has fast upload compared to a usenet botQuote:
Originally Posted by Chewie UKJust one seed is all it needs on usenet...Quote:
Originally Posted by 0ctane
I pay a site £1 (87c) a month and I get all films, music, programs, the lot. Dont mind paying that!
All I can say is good luck to those that want to use p2p. I also have been down that road and just love sitting on a tracker for weeks to get a 100 meg file. Also in UK many ISP's limit your usage both up and down. Therefore BT becomes even less attractive. I want a 4 Gig DVD on BT that means 8 gig usage to include my up and down share ratio. My ISP restricts to 50 gig per month. It is a no brainer usenet wins.
I would also just like to say hi to the forum....
Cheerio
Hi Broadsword, welcome to the forums. Let's all point and laugh at the P2P users. :lol:
I was agreeing with you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 0ctanei was quoting bit torrent that you would need many seeds to max connection not everyone has fast upload compared to a usenet botQuote:
Originally Posted by Chewie UK
Newsgroups are worth every penny a full DVD in 3 hours compared to 3 days on torrents.
For me its not just speed, its fast releases, different content, security, and best of all no uploading or begging for tracker invites :)
Agreed :yup: , i've found of releases on there before any torrent sites .Quote:
Originally Posted by P_Floyd
If you look in right groups you know wot i mean :naughty:
I would never go back to free "P2P" filesharing apps, ngs are a lot more reliable and quicker... Plus the ngs community is more helpful than any other...
I use p2p aswell, but only when I have to. I am registerred on 4 torrent trackers and having a share ratio above 1.0 on all. I also take stuff from usenet and share on torrents as well as posting in my favourite NG. Man I so good I should have a halo! All this on a 384kbs upload and 8meg download.:01:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimi...
I would stop using P2P to be honest, will get you into a lot of trouble one of these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadswordI use p2p aswell, but only when I have to. I am registerred on 4 torrent trackers and having a share ratio above 1.0 on all. I also take stuff from usenet and share on torrents as well as posting in my favourite NG. Man I so good I should have a halo! All this on a 384kbs upload and 8meg download.:01:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimi...