Among predictions for the U.S. in 2007:
-25 percent anticipate the second coming of Jesus Christ.
-19 percent think scientists are likely to find evidence of extraterrestrial life.
Source.
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Among predictions for the U.S. in 2007:
-25 percent anticipate the second coming of Jesus Christ.
-19 percent think scientists are likely to find evidence of extraterrestrial life.
Source.
:lol:
Well Jesus keeps crossing the southern borders and no matter how many times we send him back he keeps on coming back....so it's a bit past a "second coming" :unsure:
As for extraterrestrial life, does that include bacteria?
I personally think it unlikely they will find evidence next year but I do believe that with all those solar systems out there it's more likely that there is life than there isn't.
I don't believe we have been "visited"
When you see something like the first one, it makes you realise how important the religious vote is out there, it also makes it rather scary to think that there are people actively working towards causing Armageddon. :O
that's what i thought. no wonder bush doesn't worry about the future, he doesn't anticipate there being one :fear:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
I don't think that scientists finding evidence of extraterrestrial life is that far-fetched; they've already discovered evidence of water on Mars. It may not be ET, but bacteria counts.
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maybe the point is that more people think it's possible that jesus will comeQuote:
Originally Posted by MagicNakor
Yeah, but they see Jesus returning as being evidence of extra-terrestrial life.Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankinsmaybe the point is that more people think it's possible that jesus will comeQuote:
Originally Posted by MagicNakor
It's pretty much difinitive proof, if you think about it.
I'm glad it's not the kind of thing I think about.
Odd. I would figure the percentages to be higher.
I think it is kind of a tradition to predict the second coming just to be on the safe side - if you say it won't happen then it just might, sort of thing :shifty: It never seems to bother them much if it doesn't though.
If Jesus did return nobody would believe it was him anyway :happy:
Is he supposed to come back in human form then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
If he is then he has a problem as anyone that claims to be him is considered to be nuts :unsure:
I dunno what else he'd come back as. :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by vidccIs he supposed to come back in human form then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
If he is then he has a problem as anyone that claims to be him is considered to be nuts :unsure:
Perhaps he's already here and has actually come back as my refrigerator?
Most people I know (that are "strongly" christian) believe it will be a spirit (casper) form. however they have their differences as to if he would be visible or working "through us".Quote:
Originally Posted by BarbarossaI dunno what else he'd come back as. :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
Perhaps he's already here and has actually come back as my refrigerator?
He's already come back.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ttlesthobo.jpg
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If Jesus were in fact to return, don't you think he'd be almighty enough to bypass such a trifle?Quote:
Originally Posted by vidccIs he supposed to come back in human form then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
If he is then he has a problem as anyone that claims to be him is considered to be nuts :unsure:
That's just ridiculous, the whole point of christianity is that he died on the cross and came back in his physical body, if he didn't, what's the point of it all?Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
That's right, he called himself Krishnamurti this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicNakor
There's no trifle in my fridge :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuSIf Jesus were in fact to return, don't you think he'd be almighty enough to bypass such a trifle?Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
Seriously though, I keep putting bottled water in my fridge, and the day after I'm bringing out bottles of wine.
It's a real money-spinner :whistling
Obviously, the image serves a purpose. Don't blame me if you haven't seen The Littlest Hobo. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
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the whole point of christianity???? The death was but one chapter surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
So all Christians are in lockstep, they interpret the bible exactly the same way. The way you do?
All I did was relay what those around me believe. I do also know people that think he will be in human form. The point being that it's not a decided fact (as far as anything believed entirely on faith can be "fact") which is why I raised the question.
There are many different Christian churches with many different views.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by vidccMost people I know (that are "strongly" christian) believe it will be a spirit (casper) form. however they have their differences as to if he would be visible or working "through us".Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
Back in sunday school, they always made it sound as if he'd be reborn.
Which I always thought would be the point, him walking the earth and being all inspirational n' stuff.
I see how him coming back as an invisible spirit might be convinient tho', every old nutter could claim they'd been touched by him that way.
They "made it sound" or they said "he would".Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
Being "reborn" only means as a man if you come with that preconception.
There was an interesting debate here a while back as to what god is, is he an immortal being (that made man in his image) or is god everything around (god is "mother nature" so to speak...hard to describe).
I have no problem with people believing in god etc. I do however feel that in many "organised religions" the doctrines were rooted in the views preferable to the original members and as time went by this expanded so that the religion became a reflection of the followers viewpoint instead of the original profits.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
Different people within one "church" can have differing views.
What form the second coming will be is one example.
The death penalty is a fine example of moral differences within Christianity. Some will say jesus was about forgiveness and point to the "first stone" story. Others will point to an eye for an eye.
Some will point to the ten commandments "shall not kill" to say the death sentence is wrong and that god should be the one that takes the life of the killer, not man.
Mang, I was four, or five years old, last I attended one of those sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
My lasting impression, tho', was that they figured he'd once again become incarnated, and I've not read, or heard anything saying otherwise.
But then, I can't really claim to having paid much attention to matters regarding jeebus in specific, since then.
If I ever looked in a bible after that, I'd skip right to the sexy bits.
my point with that is that some view things with a literal "worldly stance", others use a more symbolic or spiritual stance.
If one asks only believers what is the nature of god? what is god? I bet there would be different views
If a Church does not believe in certain basic things, then it is not a Christian Church.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidccthe whole point of christianity???? The death was but one chapter surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
So all Christians are in lockstep, they interpret the bible exactly the same way. The way you do?
All I did was relay what those around me believe. I do also know people that think he will be in human form. The point being that it's not a decided fact (as far as anything believed entirely on faith can be "fact") which is why I raised the question.
There are many different Christian churches with many different views.
These include that Jesus Christ was the Messiah spoken of in scripture. That he was the Son of God, that he died on the cross for our redemption and that he rose from the dead.
Obviously you are right that various Christian Churches believe and teach different things. However in order to be Christian they must believe and teach the same basics.
Strangely enough I was discussing this very point with a Wee Free and another Catholic today. For anyone who doesn't know, the Wee Free are probably as far away from Catholics (within Christianity) that you could get.
really? what are the rest of them and who decided themQuote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
It would be a good idea. A few more people would 'see the light' when they open the door.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by BarbarossaI dunno what else he'd come back as. :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
Perhaps he's already here and has actually come back as my refrigerator?
Yes, it's what a Christian is. They were decided upon by Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilwreally? what are the rest of them and who decided themQuote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
If you want to know more about Christianity there are a variety of useful sources, what with the proselytising and so forth. The New Testament for example speaks at length about being a Christian and what it means.
point is that christians don't agree on the contents of the new testament and what with the way it was written, the sayings of Christ are about as accurate as me pissing into the wind.
anyway, don't care, arguments about religion always wind me up so i'm quitting this one.
i know more about jeebus than vidcc :happy:
the jesus story is what makes christianity, so if you don't believe it, you're a jew :smilie4:
Oh noes, please don't, we so need your input. Particularly when you don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilw
Point is Christians agree about the main things, they disagree about the details. Fuck sake, they may be like human beings. Who knows.
Yeah, but how much do you actually know about vidcc. :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
And then how much does anyone really know about jeebus? He didn't write the book about him, others did. you have to take into account the media bias.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyYeah, but how much do you actually know about vidcc. :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
On the agreement of the basics, I have read about some that don't believe jesus was a mortal man but an immortal being that took a human form as a vessel to walk the earth. The story is still the same but he didn't actually die on the cross and become reborn but instead just left his body (something along those lines but not exactly). Being the immortal son of god obviously his appearance to say keep it real to his homies is explained.
I'm so glad my Faith helps me resist the temptation presented by threads like this one. :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by ilw
i was watchin' this "the naked archaeologist" show the other night, and he was interviewing some historoscientific eggheads who claim the philistines were not in fact the dirty ignorant savages the old testament had led us to believe they were. rather, they were prolly the most sophisticated tribe in the area at the time?