Congratulations To Us, The Opinionated

Our ranks (those who care to DEBATE, DISCUSS, and SOLVE) are growing nicely-while we may never take over the reins, perhaps we could invite the power-mongers in for a look-see-maybe they would/could learn something. :lol:

Seriously-

It's cooking pretty good here these days-perhaps we should think about petitioning the mods to re-name this section to reflect the need to discuss politics/international affairs, etc., on an ongoing basis; the current heading seems a bit out-moded by now.

Any thoughts?

Good call, a "Current Affairs" section would be better than having the "War in Iraq" title. The Lounge doesn't seem the right place to discuss the more serious aspects of life. We got a Bookworld so there is hope!! :D

Great idea, j2!

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/...hoto/tyson.jpg

Mikey likes it!

Why not just call it "Ongoing Discussion"?

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Originally posted by clocker@19 May 2003 - 12:14
Great idea, j2!

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/...hoto/tyson.jpg

Mikey likes it!

Why not just call it "Ongoing Discussion"?

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When I saw you'd replied, I thought, "He'll have a tough time finding a picture for this"-I stand corrected. :P

I forgot to add to the my original post the following:

"...and make this a permanent part of the forum".

Speaking of Mikey 'liking it'..... :lol:

Okay-that's two of you- :)

http://www.weht.net/pics/mikey.jpg

Mikeys worldwide like it!

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Originally posted by j2k4+19 May 2003 - 15:25--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 19 May 2003 - 15:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Our ranks (those who care to DEBATE, DISCUSS, and SOLVE) are growing nicely-while we may never take over the reins, perhaps we could invite the power-mongers in for a look-see-maybe they would/could learn something. :lol:

Seriously-

It&#39;s cooking pretty good here these days-perhaps we should think about petitioning the mods to re-name this section to reflect the need to discuss politics/international affairs, etc., on an ongoing basis; the current heading seems a bit out-moded by now.

Any thoughts?[/b]

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J2K4 the idea is brilliant,

I can remember a contemptuous but prescient newbie posting something like this on April 19th.


<!--QuoteBegin--hobbes@19 April 2003 - 20:17
" Seems that this forum has sort of selected out the more serious type of poster and there has been a rather inspiring exchange of ideas and view points. Trust me, I come from the Anarchy Online forum (just an online game) and this is so much more enjoyable. I don&#39;t have to re-invent the wheel everyday.

Shame we can&#39;t somehow preserve this more mature area so we are not thrown back in the "Whose got the cutest butt" social forum.

Hey, I&#39;m all for taking about "boobies" and such, but it seems that more serious discussions are immisible with this silly (but healthy) banter.

What I&#39;m saying is that I don&#39;t want to be thrown back into the kiddie pool. Give us an adult section [/quote]


I&#39;m sure he has moved on, but his message remains.

I would only add that I would like the forum to be broader than just politics. I am more of a concepts/ ideas man. To be honest, I find political discussions to be about as interesting as watching a dog chase it&#39;s tail and equally as productive.

I think the name should be reflective of gentleman sitting in a large book lined study, stone drunk on brandy and contemplating their glass. Smoking jackets and a pipe, required.

The Drawing Room, The Parlour, The Lounge, The Inner Chamber or The Gentleman&#39;s Club.

I know the last will draw pc ire, but look at the posts in this forum, can you find any women? I don&#39;t think they enjoy these sometimes testy exchanges. We will of course allow guest passes for ladies such as Sara who don&#39;t mind exchanging punches every now and then.

I actually use bookworld for this function now, but I still find the title restrictive.

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Originally posted by hobbes@19 May 2003 - 21:22
I can remember a contemptuous but prescient newbie posting something like this on April 19th.

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Hmmmmmm.....
I kinda thought that noob had it goin&#39; on-didn&#39;t feel he was contemptuous, just possessed of a forceful conviction.

Anyway, if such was the case (as I&#39;m well aware it was), I&#39;ll settle for a second on his original &#39;motion&#39;. :P

Might I also add: Your idea of a "Drawing Room" is, dare I say it, PERFECT?
Would seem to summon the desired imagery.

And, as I myself can claim enlightenment as to the benefit of the distaff view, I would welcome, indeed encourage, their participation. ;)

I propose we informally vote, or offer other suggestions, as to a name for this section, so that we might present a finished idea to the powers that be. B)


P.S.
Another suggestion for name-"THE DEEP END" :lol:

The lounge is a place where hardly anything of substance is discussed.
I think that this place should&#39;nt be associated with it at all.
I&#39;ve made a request to a couple of admins who were responding to another post of mine and I&#39;m waiting to hear what they say.

http://www.webtitanic.net/room1.gif

Ladies and gentlemen, please come in and make yourselves comfortable...


the non-smoking section is down the hall about 400 yards...

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Originally posted by clocker@19 May 2003 - 23:06
http://www.webtitanic.net/room1.gif

Ladies and gentlemen, please come in and make yourselves comfortable...


the non-smoking section is down the hall about 400 yards...

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Nice architecture-when could we move in? B)

Another compelling suggestion I will offer up on behalf of my esteemed colleague Clocker:

"THE SANDBOX"

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Originally posted by j2k4@19 May 2003 - 22:17
Another compelling suggestion I will offer up on behalf of my esteemed colleague Clocker:

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "THE SANDBOX"

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Good idea, but I fear that if we name it that all the cats from the lounge threads will come in and shit.

In honor of you, j2, we could call it The Conservatory" but there may be too much baggage attached... :P

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Originally posted by clocker+19 May 2003 - 23:29--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 19 May 2003 - 23:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--j2k4@19 May 2003 - 22:17
Another compelling suggestion I will offer up on behalf of my esteemed colleague Clocker:

&nbsp; "THE SANDBOX"

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Good idea, but I fear that if we name it that all the cats from the lounge threads will come in and shit.

In honor of you, j2, we could call it The Conservatory" but there may be too much baggage attached... :P [/b][/quote]
Too too true...... ;)

good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)

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Originally posted by kAb@20 May 2003 - 15:23
good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)

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Perhaps....

Make the posts count negatively. For every post in the New World you subtract from your count. That would eliminate those who are only interested in inflating their count and ultimately lead to a new standard of cool. Big post counts would become beourgouis and declasse. The truely hip would have negative numbers.

And of course, you would have to wear black...

That would have the opposite effect, sadly. Once people started seeing the negative numbers as the "new cool," they&#39;d start spamming in here to fit in. The Lounge II, if you will.

:ninja:

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good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)

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Perhaps....

Make the posts count negatively. For every post in the New World you subtract from your count. That would eliminate those who are only interested in inflating their count and ultimately lead to a new standard of cool. Big post counts would become beourgouis and declasse. The truely hip would have negative numbers.

And of course, you would have to wear black... [/b][/quote]
Thats a very good idea&#33;
I was thinking that these posts should count as well,but by essentially charging someone to post here,I think it just might keep them away....nonono
wait a minute&#33;
Have you seen the post totals of some of those lounge lizards?

-200 I like that&#33; B)

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Originally posted by clocker+20 May 2003 - 17:56--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 20 May 2003 - 17:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--kAb@20 May 2003 - 15:23
good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)

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Perhaps....

Make the posts count negatively. For every post in the New World you subtract from your count. That would eliminate those who are only interested in inflating their count and ultimately lead to a new standard of cool. Big post counts would become beourgouis and declasse. The truely hip would have negative numbers.

And of course, you would have to wear black... [/b][/quote]
Are you suggesting a &#39;Goth&#39; theme, to attract the youngsters? :huh:

A little &#39;thankyou&#39; to Hobbes for his anti-mysoginistic stance on the proposed new &#39;room&#39;, although I bristle at being &#39;allowed&#39; a special pass, much like the &#39;honorary&#39; member title for ladies within many a golf club.

Clearly, there are less women on the board than men meaning that as a percentage of participation, I and my other occasional female contributors may actually be providing input at the same frequency as the men.

I am unsure of the figures, but there are approximately 10 regular contributors to the banter.

If I am the most regular female (no proof here though) and represent roughly 10% of the posters here, and the total board membership consists of approximately 10% women (again no evidence) then the ratio is about even.

This means that there is no need for a &#39;guest&#39; membership for me.

Might I suggest &#39;Semantic Banters&#39; as a name?

or perhaps,

&#39;Dialectic Discourse&#39;

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Originally posted by sara5564@20 May 2003 - 23:00
A little &#39;thankyou&#39; to Hobbes for his anti-mysoginistic stance on the proposed new &#39;room&#39;, although I bristle at being &#39;allowed&#39; a special pass, much like the &#39;honorary&#39; member title for ladies within many a golf club.

Clearly, there are less women on the board than men meaning that as a percentage of participation, I and my other occasional female contributors may actually be providing input at the same frequency as the men.

I am unsure of the figures, but there are approximately 10 regular contributors to the banter.

If I am the most regular female (no proof here though) and represent roughly 10% of the posters here, and the total board membership consists of approximately 10% women (again no evidence) then the ratio is about even.

This means that there is no need for a &#39;guest&#39; membership for me.

Might I suggest &#39;Semantic Banters&#39; as a name?

or perhaps,

&#39;Dialectic Discourse&#39;

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Sara-
At this time, I feel it only proper to importune you please, please, pretty please come out and play?

I know I speak for all (the guys) here as I beseech you to come roll &#39;round in the mud with us?

It&#39;s really good mud-

Have you ever been &#39;beseeched&#39; before?

I&#39;d be interested in your reaction to a really good beseeching-if this isn&#39;t your first, how does this one measure up?

Do you like to be beseeched by one, or would you prefer to be gang-beseeched? :P


Seriously (my favorite way), though-

There are no &#39;Hootie Johnsons&#39; here, and this ain&#39;t Augusta-but it is the Masters.

Would you join us? :)

"Gang beseeched"? :P :P :P

If it happened, I would be supporting it staying as a sub section of the lounge.....without a post count.

As there are always more people read this area than contribute (I think some members use this AS the news ;) )...........I think a Poll is in order.

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As there are always more people read this area than contribute (I think some members use this AS the news ;) )...........I think a Poll is in order.

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God, I hope that&#39;s not true&#33;

People- take everything here with many grains of salt&#33;

J2 thinks FOX NEWS is fair and balanced&#33;

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As there are always more people read this area than contribute (I think some members use this AS the news ;) )...........I think a Poll is in order.

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God, I hope that&#39;s not true&#33;

People- take everything here with many grains of salt&#33;

J2 thinks FOX NEWS is fair and balanced&#33; [/b][/quote]
I will cop to &#39;balanced&#39;, as both sides ARE represented on FOX.

It is NOT, however, FAIR-the liberal view doesn&#39;t hold up.

"Logic doth smite liberalism a mortal blow...." ONLY ON FOX NEWS*, HOME OF THE &#39;FOXIEST&#39; NEWSBABES ON EARTH :lol:

*Also known as the last bastion of chauvanism on T.V. :P

http://www.saja.org/images/dhaliwal3.jpg
The best reason to watch ITN :P

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Originally posted by j2k4@21 May 2003 - 19:29
*Also known as the last bastion of chauvanism on T.V. :P

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And here I thought "The Man Show" could take that title. ;)

:ninja:

Sirs,

To be beseeched with such charm and fortitude leaves little room for refusal or forebearance.

However, beseech no more and save my blushes that I may participate at my instigation alone.

Verily, I shall provide a response should my perusal and deliberation require that the conversation has created sufficient tension in my mind as to necessitate a timely addition.

Warm mud&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; yeaaaay bring it on&#33;&#33;&#33; last one in is a rotten egg&#33;&#33;&#33;

Excellent Sara&#33;

Did the gang beseeching help?

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Originally posted by sara5564@22 May 2003 - 21:14
Sirs,

To be beseeched with such charm and fortitude leaves little room for refusal or forebearance.

However, beseech no more and save my blushes that I may participate at my instigation alone.

Verily, I shall provide a response should my perusal and deliberation require that the conversation has created sufficient tension in my mind as to necessitate a timely addition.

Warm mud&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; yeaaaay bring it on&#33;&#33;&#33; last one in is a rotten egg&#33;&#33;&#33;

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Glad to have you aboard, Sara.

(How does one board warm mud?)

I&#39;ll need help maintaining the proper degree of &#39;unpronouncibility&#39; and prosaic density people have come to expect here.

This hovel has brightened considerably. :)

P.S. other suggestions for a title-

"FOR WHAT IT&#39;S WORTH"

"THE TALK EXCHANGE"

I like The Bait Shop.

There&#39;s a certain ambivelance that appeals...

Are you feeling alright clocker? ;)

http://www.genericgifts.com/product_...x248/31245.jpg

:ninja:

Kind of a nice homey charm there, MK.
Very inviting.
Lure &#39;em in, then GUT &#39;em...

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Originally posted by clocker@23 May 2003 - 16:03


Lure &#39;em in, then GUT &#39;em...

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Only those who present themselves as candidates for the food table. :D

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Originally posted by j2k4@23 May 2003 - 15:09

Only those who present themselves as candidates for the food table. :D

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http://www.airhog.com/targets/images/fish_barrel.gif

I predict there will be no shortage... ;)

BUMP.

BUMP-BUMP.

BUMP-BUMP-BUMP.

Do we need more votes, or do we need to bribe someone?

BOTH&#33;&#33;??&#33;?&#33;?

Now is the time for all men (and ladies) good and true to come to the aid of their forum.... :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/198500...6_bribe300.jpg

I&#39;m off to see Bender right now...

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/198500...6_bribe300.jpg

I&#39;m off to see Bender right now...

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That&#39;s the ticket (Looks more like a whole fistful of them)

Give Mr. Bender a deadline-it&#39;s the least he can do for such a large wad of....uh...tickets.

Boy, Clocker-this creative stuff is tough&#33;<span style='color:red'></span>

:blink: :blink: :blink:

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Boy, Clocker-this creative stuff is tough&#33;[/color]

:blink: :blink: :blink:

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Baby steps j2, baby steps... :P

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Originally posted by j2k4@27 May 2003 - 11:20

That&#39;s the ticket (Looks more like a whole fistful of them)

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Actually, WTF am I thinking?

I really don&#39;t care about the name of this section that much&#33;

I&#39;m off to Brazil&#33;

When are they going to do something?
And what is it they&#39;re going to do?
It&#39;s been a week since the poll started and we&#39;ve won.
Lets call it something plain like Debate/Politics.

I don&#39;t think it should be on the main board menu&#33;
Unless you want a bunch of riff raff in here spamming.
I think we should have it on a sub menu like now but not in the lounge.
Any Ideas?