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05-22-2003, 07:19 PM
tianup

Sorry to have to ask this, but I searched and found nothing. I just finished converting a shitload of wma files (rips)to mp3 to share, and I noticed how much bigger the files are (a little more than 2x as big). Is it cool to share files as wma or ogg, or should they be mp3. It's just that I can share and use twice as many files that way. :blink:

Someone said mp3's are better quality, but it depends on the conversion - also, if the mp3's are simply converted from wma, they CAN"T be better quality - you'd do better to dl and convert yourself.

If someone who REALLY knows about this stuff could inform me or point me in the right direction that would be great. I know lots about sample rate, bit resolution, dynamic range etc., but not much about the guidelines for sharing files.
05-22-2003, 08:09 PM
tianup

So I finally found some real info - read about 8 or 10 comparative studies done by both "sides" of the format debate. It appears that aurally and scientifically, according to every study I read, that wma files sound better than mp3's at lower sample rates, and almost exactly the same (no difference) at the highest sample rates. And they are almost exactly the same size depending on their bit rate, with mp3 being a tiny bit smaller. If anyone has different information please let me know. Here are three of the best studies:

http://www.mp3-tech.org/tests/wma9/

http://ekei.com/audio/

http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecen...reviews/2606/7/
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecen...reviews/2606/8/
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecen...reviews/2606/9/
05-23-2003, 03:54 AM
Ad

I dont think anyone will ever change from MP3
05-23-2003, 05:18 AM
Nunpoom

It kind of the same, but I don't know why people use mp3 more than wma. Back in the day I usually listen from wma, untill mp3 become so popular and many were sharing them. :(

I guess you can share you file as wma.(I found some of them) or convert to mp3(which popular). Almost people(not me) didn't care much about bit rate of the music as long as it higher than 96 or128, so you can share the good stuff you have.

SHARE WILL KEEP KAZAA ALIVE! :)
05-23-2003, 05:57 AM
Switeck

WMA can have copyprotection and trojans placed in them...

MP3 only can by being mis-named WMA/ASF/RA files...
05-23-2003, 07:06 AM
RealitY

Quote:

Originally posted by Switeck@23 May 2003 - 06:57
WMA can have copyprotection and trojans placed in them...

MP3 only can by being mis-named WMA/ASF/RA files...

Say again...

Are they executable upon opening, I heard not so, but...
05-23-2003, 08:10 AM
jetje

WMA s*cks. It's the way microsoft tries to get a hold on audiofiles in the market. Someone sad be4, they can add copyprotection to that and stuff.
:angry:

KEEP IT MP3 :rolleyes:
05-23-2003, 08:27 AM
Switeck

I've gotten a VBS script virus that was renamed as a MP3 file.
Microsoft's Windows Media Player ran it without giving an error of any sort...

WMA and WMV files can have some VBS script inside their file and that *IS* executeable.
05-23-2003, 08:48 AM
The Knife Thrower

If WMA had no DRM crap in it then it would be used by everyone.
05-23-2003, 10:11 AM
m8t

:D
hi there !
not sure if this helps, but i have Nero mp3pro encoder and i encode everything to mp3pro which is about half the size of an mp3.
regards
m8t :D
05-23-2003, 06:35 PM
ObiWan

Quote:

Originally posted by m8t@23 May 2003 - 10:11
:D
hi there !
not sure if this helps, but i have Nero mp3pro encoder and i encode everything to mp3pro which is about half the size of an mp3.
regards
m8t :D

not used MP3pro but i heard it is shit

wma lossless is interesting (uses a mathematical formula to retain 100% quality)
05-23-2003, 10:03 PM
summerlinda

Mp3pro IS shit <_<
05-24-2003, 06:32 AM
RealitY

Quote:

I've gotten a VBS script virus that was renamed as a MP3 file.
Microsoft's Windows Media Player ran it without giving an error of any sort...

WMA and WMV files can have some VBS script inside their file and that *IS* executeable.

Ok, then am I to figure that any mp3 file downloaded can infect, or is this only when using WMP, which I don't, I use WinAmp. Also what did that file do?

Hmmmm...
05-24-2003, 10:36 AM
m8t

:D
hi there !

Mp3pro IS shit
it does'nt matter what it sounds like if the guy wants a file half the size of an mp3 !
i think he was talking about reducing file size !
regards
m8t :rolleyes:
05-27-2003, 05:27 PM
tianup

I appreciate all the responses, but no one has answered the question. This is all hearsay and unsupported opinion (not to say that any of you don't know what you are talking about... :unsure: ). ANY file type can carry a virus, and yes, I hear that mp3pro is shit, blah blah blah, Microsoft sucks.... Anyway, it appears that the format everyone prefers is mp3 at 192kbps. So be it. :rolleyes:
05-27-2003, 08:23 PM
summerlinda

Quote:

Anyway, it appears that the format everyone prefers is mp3 at 192kbps. So be it.

No its not, its VBR 1-2 ;)
05-27-2003, 09:10 PM
tianup

Quote:

Originally posted by summerlinda@27 May 2003 - 21:23

Quote:

Anyway, it appears that the format everyone prefers is mp3 at 192kbps. So be it.

No its not, its VBR 1-2 ;)

Huh? :blink: I don't even know what you're talking about....
05-27-2003, 09:31 PM
tianup

Oh - it just occurred to me that you meant mp3 @ VBR - I was somewhat confused about the new format...lol :D

I'm assuming you mean Variable Bit Rate @ level 1 or 2? What do you use to rip, convert?
05-27-2003, 09:37 PM
N£MO

Quote:

Originally posted by summerlinda@27 May 2003 - 21:23

Quote:

Anyway, it appears that the format everyone prefers is mp3 at 192kbps. So be it.

No its not, its VBR 1-2 ;)

Thats a matter of opinion,192kbps does the job fine for me. ;)